Beacon's Summit, View from the top... |
Beacon's Summit, View from the top... |
Nov 14 2006, 08:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2921 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
It's exactly what people were saying all the time. Right at the top of the ridge is a lone outcrop sticking up just a few tens of cm. We can see now there are other outcrops, but every other one is flush with the ground. We knew from the stretched images that it wasn't very high, just high enough. We also knew the far rim had to be much too low to see from the northwest because Victoria itelf is tilted, being formed on the edge of a broad depression. All that was being said way back when we were still north of Beagle, and it turned out to be right. I think the far-rimmers should stand the near-rimmers a case of Mars Bars. Phil You're right Phil and I'm happy we, Far rimers, challenged "your" Near rimer statment so you were able to find the rigth theory that prove now to be (100%) right. No challenge = no good theory Just currious to know why Beacon is so bright. Any thought before we know? -------------------- |
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Nov 15 2006, 01:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
Just curious to know why Beacon is so bright. Any thought before we know? I've always made the simplest assumption, Climb, that the Beacon rock was the same as all the other pale evaporite we've been driving over since Eagle Crater. (I'm a long-time follower of William of Ockam; i.e. don't postulate diamonds or polished marble, if good-old garden-variety sulfate sandstone will reflect enough light.) The vertical edge of an evaporite slab facing northward will reflect plenty of light from the northerly-positioned winter sun back towards the north, from where we were looking, back in May and June. All other surfaces in the Victoria region were hidden or roughly horizontal so they would reflect back minimal light even if they were mirrors. Thus, that roughly 1.0 x 0.2 meter evaporite edge was by far the brightest thing we could see in the south - a true beacon. The same sort of basic optical principles explain why El Dorado always looked black from orbit or from the top of Husband Hill, but has always looked rather light from Low Ridge. The difference is only that the well-sorted basalt sand of ElDorado reflects back little light, while the iron sulfates reflect back plenty. -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Nov 15 2006, 06:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2921 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
The vertical edge of an evaporite slab facing northward will reflect plenty of light from the northerly-positioned winter sun back towards the north, from where we were looking, back in May and June. All what you write here is convincing. I think we can assume that the contrast between beacon and the sky added to the Beacom showing that brigth since I guess we must be able to find from where we are now, inside Vicky, evaporite that reflect light the same way that beacon did; but we have to have pictures taken at the rigth time and at the right heading regarding sun position. -------------------- |
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Nov 15 2006, 01:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 209 |
You mean 10th sol, don't you ? Oh, what's a power of 10 between friends? -------------------- --O'Dave
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Nov 15 2006, 04:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Florida & Texas, USA Member No.: 482 |
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