Entry Pool, Predict when Oppy will enter Victoria Crater |
Entry Pool, Predict when Oppy will enter Victoria Crater |
Mar 8 2007, 02:12 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
Do we know what effect (if any) Oppy's broken steering actuator on that one front wheel has on her ability to drive up and down slopes?
-the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Mar 8 2007, 09:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1870 Joined: 20-February 05 Member No.: 174 |
My impression is that the angle of the front wheel should have pretty minimal effect on the slope climbing ability. If the wheel was canted 45 deg or more, then it would be significant to about as bad as the dead wheel on Spirit (for 60 to 90 deg)
I still don't like the "entry pool" phrase.. I keep getting this mental imagery of "GLUB! GLUB!" |
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Mar 9 2007, 10:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 23-December 05 From: Forest of Dean Member No.: 617 |
Thanks everyone for clearing that one up! 30 degrees it is.
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Viva software libre! |
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May 2 2007, 09:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
Guesses so far in entry pool
1038 Floyd 1103 Ant103 1111 Nirgal 1111 atomoid 1122 climber 1139 ustrax 1140 tuvas 1143 imipak 1147 Bobby 1151 MahFL 1170 jamescanvin 1181 alan 1183 Oren Iishi 1192 Edward Schmitz 1200 Rakhir 1205 BrianL 1210 antioniseb 1219 MarsIsImportant 1224 Dfinrock 1234 PhilCo126 1235 dilo 1242 MizarKey 1244 bergadder 1255 Pavel 1270 AndyG 1280 um3k 1285 sattrackpro 1299 centsworth II 1305 pch 1313 Tesheiner 1314 kenny 1365 ToSeek 1395 micvoo 1425 Myran 1500 FIN Mars 1544 leustek |
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May 4 2007, 08:40 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 324 |
Would anyone mind if I picked a new entry pool date?
My earlier pick was when I was hoping beyond all hope that Duck Bay would be approached by way of the far side. Unless someone objects, I'll change to sol 1266. Instead of "GLUB! GLUB!" I imagine easing into a relaxing jacuzzi with a cool drink in hand . Lets not focus on possible negative outcomes. There is nothing we can do about it anyway. |
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May 4 2007, 09:19 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 258 Joined: 22-December 06 Member No.: 1503 |
I don't think changing the entry date guess is fair this late in the game, at least officially. It is especially unfair to those who picked very early and are near correct, including me. We now know exactly where Opportunity will ingress, and the rover is currently 'high tailing it' to that point of entry. In fact, I think the pool should be closed to official guesses. However, I have no problem with discussing changed opinions. Just keep in mind that your first guess should be the official one.
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Guest_Edward Schmitz_* |
May 4 2007, 09:28 PM
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Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm happy with my original guess!
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May 4 2007, 09:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 258 Joined: 22-December 06 Member No.: 1503 |
Yes Edward. If there are not very many delays, then you look to be in the 'cat bird seat'. Realistically, there appears to be somewhere between 8 and 12 people still well within the range of probability. And you so happen to be right in the middle. My guess is still within range too, but it is on the long side.
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May 4 2007, 10:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 258 Joined: 22-December 06 Member No.: 1503 |
Has it been determined what constitutes an actually ingress?
There is a big difference between a toe dip and an ingress. I think all six wheels down the slope should be considered an ingress. But what criteria determines the slope of the actual crater? These are questions that need to be answered soon. Regardless, anybody that picked the toe dip 'Sol' should get an honorable mention. |
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May 4 2007, 10:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 258 Joined: 22-December 06 Member No.: 1503 |
Maybe, the pool should be divided into two?
We could have the BKEP (before known entry point ) section and the AKEP (after known entry point) section. The BKEP is naturally far superior, but the AKEP would give those who 'missed the boat' another shot at a quality guess. Of course, the AKEP should be opened up to all those who made guesses in the BKEP too. |
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May 4 2007, 11:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 21-August 06 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1062 |
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May 5 2007, 12:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
I see where this is going. We will end up with a page full of posts splitting hairs over a definintion of entry to determine who wins a pool with no prize.
Being one of the moderators I'm doing what I should have done when I dug up this thread: Closing it. Since leustek's new guess is already posted and is 100 sols away I'll let it stand. Doug, not being in the pool can define what is the the definition of entry. Thread closed. (I agree with this - these threads are silly anyway, and having people changing all their numbers because they get it 'wrong' is sillier still. - Doug ) |
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Jul 17 2007, 07:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2917 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Guesses so far in entry pool 1103 Ant103 1111 Nirgal 1111 atomoid 1122 climber 1139 ustrax 1140 tuvas 1143 imipak 1147 Bobby 1151 MahFL 1170 jamescanvin 1181 alan 1183 Oren Iishi 1192 Edward Schmitz 1200 Rakhir 1205 BrianL 1210 antioniseb 1219 MarsIsImportant 1224 Dfinrock 1234 PhilCo126 1235 dilo 1242 MizarKey 1244 bergadder 1255 Pavel 1270 AndyG 1280 um3k 1285 sattrackpro 1299 centsworth II 1305 pch 1313 Tesheiner 1314 kenny 1365 ToSeek 1395 micvoo 1425 Myran 1500 FIN Mars 1544 leustek Here are the still possible winners. I hope we'll stay in the 1200's ! -------------------- |
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Aug 14 2007, 11:26 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 547 Joined: 1-May 06 From: Scotland (Ecosse, Escocia) Member No.: 759 |
It's now Sol 1264, so MizarKey, bergadder and Pavel bite the dust.... and AndyG is heading the same way.
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Aug 14 2007, 01:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 593 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 279 |
And I thought I was being improbably pessimistic, in order to convince the Norns to beat me.
Andy |
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