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Erebus/victoria Entry & Exploration, Would it be worth it?
odave
post Apr 19 2005, 04:57 PM
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Last year, MER team decided to let Oppy go into Endurance because the value of the potential science gain outweighed the risks to the rover at that time. I remember Steve Squyres saying something like...if Oppy can't get back out, it would be like getting locked in a candy store.

I wonder if the same would be true when we get to Erebus and Victoria. If these craters show something significantly different than we've already seen, and there's a feasible entry/exit route, would they still risk sending Oppy in?

If it were me, given the 18 month extended mission and the rover showing its age more and more, any target in Erebus or Victora would need to be very juicy. Then again, there's no guarantee that Oppy will live for the entire extension.

Hmmm...depending on what we find when we get there, it could be a hard decision for the team to make!


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- odave   Erebus/victoria Entry & Exploration   Apr 19 2005, 04:57 PM
- - dot.dk   First of all I don't think you can go into Ere...   Apr 19 2005, 05:12 PM
- - CosmicRocker   From the orbiter images, it appears they would not...   Apr 20 2005, 03:28 AM
- - wyogold   I say go in Victoria if there is good science ther...   Apr 21 2005, 03:02 AM
|- - chokai   QUOTE (wyogold @ Apr 20 2005, 07:02 PM)I say ...   Apr 21 2005, 05:15 AM
|- - AndyG   QUOTE (chokai @ Apr 21 2005, 05:15 AM)If Vict...   Apr 21 2005, 08:48 AM
- - djellison   Yup - down the entry ramp at B would make sense to...   Apr 21 2005, 09:09 AM
- - TheChemist   My impression from the Victoria image is that even...   Apr 21 2005, 02:10 PM
- - djellison   If they were prepared to enter Endurance with no g...   Apr 21 2005, 02:19 PM
- - babakm   A is the entry point. B & C are bounce marks ...   Apr 21 2005, 03:01 PM
- - ilbasso   For me, the question is: given Oppy's age and ...   Apr 21 2005, 08:03 PM
|- - AndyG   QUOTE (ilbasso @ Apr 21 2005, 08:03 PM)For me...   Apr 22 2005, 09:30 AM
- - djellison   A lap around Victoria? That would be something lik...   Apr 21 2005, 08:58 PM
- - Sunspot   A little more info from Steve Squyres: http://athe...   Apr 25 2005, 12:55 AM
- - edstrick   Looking at the highest resolution MOC pic<s...   Apr 25 2005, 05:36 AM
- - Sunspot   I think we're getting a little ahead of oursel...   Apr 25 2005, 08:30 AM
|- - Jeff7   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Apr 25 2005, 04:30 AM)I thin...   Apr 25 2005, 02:02 PM
|- - odave   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Apr 25 2005, 04:30 AM)I thin...   Apr 25 2005, 02:34 PM
- - Nix   If it would be of any help I have made an overview...   Apr 25 2005, 03:02 PM
|- - odave   QUOTE (NIX @ Apr 25 2005, 11:02 AM)If it woul...   Apr 25 2005, 03:31 PM
- - djellison   http://moc.rlproject.com/end_vic_4m.jpg goes some...   Apr 25 2005, 03:32 PM
- - gregp1962   I wonder what's going on on Mars. Squires gave...   Apr 25 2005, 04:02 PM
- - Sunspot   They're taking lots of pictures with pancam of...   Apr 25 2005, 04:15 PM
|- - Pando   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Apr 25 2005, 09:15 AM)No ide...   Apr 25 2005, 08:33 PM
|- - Sunspot   QUOTE (Pando @ Apr 25 2005, 09:33 PM)Oppy is ...   Apr 25 2005, 09:24 PM
|- - odave   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Apr 25 2005, 05:24 PM)QUOTE ...   Apr 25 2005, 11:52 PM
- - Sunspot   Things sure have got quiet around here since the e...   Apr 25 2005, 07:50 PM
- - dot.dk   Oppy where are you!??? Haven't seen an...   Apr 25 2005, 08:35 PM
- - gregp1962   It would take NOTHING for someone at JPL to post a...   Apr 26 2005, 03:56 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (gregp1962 @ Apr 26 2005, 03:56 AM)It w...   Apr 26 2005, 07:51 AM
|- - Nirgal   QUOTE Oppy is moving south, slowly but surely. The...   Apr 26 2005, 09:27 AM
- - Phil Stooke   It's simply not true that "it would take ...   Apr 26 2005, 11:14 AM
- - Sunspot   Picture update at JPL, 538 new pictures: http://ma...   Apr 26 2005, 11:41 AM
- - gregp1962   I'm a slow typist. It takes me a few minutes t...   Apr 26 2005, 02:14 PM
- - Pando   There are many paragraphs written PER DAY document...   Apr 26 2005, 05:44 PM
- - OWW   New update from Squyres on the athena website. Opp...   Apr 26 2005, 10:12 PM
- - dot.dk   Damn! Hope he is right about it not being...   Apr 26 2005, 10:28 PM
- - Sunspot   Yikes.....I don't think i've seen the whee...   Apr 26 2005, 11:22 PM
- - dot.dk   Let us all pray this is not gonna be Oppys final r...   Apr 26 2005, 11:56 PM
|- - Sunspot   QUOTE (dot.dk @ Apr 27 2005, 12:56 AM)Let us ...   Apr 27 2005, 12:05 AM
- - dot.dk   Funny thing is that it was able to plow that much ...   Apr 27 2005, 12:37 AM
- - Gray   Pando, Thanks for the dose of reality.   Apr 27 2005, 12:57 AM
|- - Nirgal   oh, oh .... that's going to be tough with onl...   Apr 27 2005, 02:27 AM
- - Bill Harris   RE: images in Reply#37. Interesting how the soil ...   Apr 27 2005, 03:57 AM
- - dot.dk   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Apr 27 2005, 03:57 AM)Wh...   Apr 27 2005, 04:15 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Oh, wow. This doesn't bode well for Opportuni...   Apr 27 2005, 04:43 AM
|- - jaredGalen   At least the rear right wheel (or seeing as they w...   Apr 27 2005, 08:47 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Apr 27 2005, 04:43 AM)S...   Apr 27 2005, 11:10 AM
- - Bubbinski   Squyres' status report for April 17 says that ...   Apr 27 2005, 04:56 AM
- - CosmicRocker   On a different note, it appears that Opportunity h...   Apr 27 2005, 05:04 AM
|- - Vladimorka   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Apr 27 2005, 08:04 AM)O...   Apr 27 2005, 07:02 AM
- - Analyst   I am not concerned. The rover has the capability t...   Apr 27 2005, 06:24 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (Analyst @ Apr 27 2005, 06:24 AM)I am n...   Apr 27 2005, 08:38 AM
- - Sunspot   Yes, it looks like it was driving just fine until ...   Apr 27 2005, 08:41 AM
- - djellison   Even blind drives still have built in high water m...   Apr 27 2005, 11:18 AM
|- - tedstryk   How many dunes, must Oppy sail / Before it sleeps ...   Apr 27 2005, 11:37 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 27 2005, 11:18 AM)Even...   Apr 27 2005, 12:01 PM
|- - Marslauncher   I just wanted to have a crack at this.... ARB/ACM...   Apr 27 2005, 12:29 PM
- - Tman   An overview around the bad place (Navcam): (400K...   Apr 27 2005, 12:57 PM
- - Chmee   So where are those tire chains when we need them? ...   Apr 27 2005, 02:13 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (Chmee @ Apr 27 2005, 02:13 PM)So where...   Apr 27 2005, 02:16 PM
|- - Sunspot   QUOTE (Chmee @ Apr 27 2005, 03:13 PM)Just a r...   Apr 27 2005, 03:33 PM
- - Chmee   You can see in this Navcam pic that as soon as Opp...   Apr 27 2005, 02:18 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (Chmee @ Apr 27 2005, 02:18 PM)You can ...   Apr 27 2005, 03:13 PM
|- - Nirgal   QUOTE Just a real crazy thought but if they were s...   Apr 27 2005, 03:13 PM
- - djellison   The arm was built to carry the instruments, and th...   Apr 27 2005, 03:51 PM
|- - David   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 27 2005, 03:51 PM)It...   Apr 27 2005, 04:17 PM
||- - lyford   QUOTE (David @ Apr 27 2005, 08:17 AM)Then wha...   Apr 27 2005, 05:43 PM
||- - Sunspot   QUOTE (lyford @ Apr 27 2005, 06:43 PM)It does...   Apr 27 2005, 05:52 PM
||- - lyford   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Apr 27 2005, 09:52 AM)QUOTE ...   Apr 27 2005, 07:18 PM
||- - V.B.   It seems strange to me that rear wheels are turned...   Apr 27 2005, 10:10 PM
|- - mars_armer   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 27 2005, 03:51 PM)The ...   Apr 27 2005, 06:02 PM
|- - Chmee   QUOTE (mars_armer @ Apr 27 2005, 02:02 PM)QUO...   Apr 27 2005, 07:34 PM
|- - AndyG   QUOTE (mars_armer @ Apr 27 2005, 06:02 PM)If ...   Apr 28 2005, 08:40 AM
- - djellison   I'd suggest running between dunes as much as p...   Apr 27 2005, 04:19 PM
- - ilbasso   We had the deus ex machina dust devil cleaning eve...   Apr 27 2005, 05:50 PM
|- - Reckless   QUOTE (ilbasso @ Apr 27 2005, 06:50 PM)We had...   Apr 27 2005, 06:33 PM
|- - Pando   QUOTE (Reckless @ Apr 27 2005, 11:33 AM)If op...   Apr 27 2005, 07:25 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is Tman's pan in a polar projection. Vik...   Apr 27 2005, 06:09 PM
- - Jeff7   Maneuvering accurately between so many ripples is ...   Apr 27 2005, 06:12 PM
- - gregp1962   Time for a tire change. http://www.rccrazy.com/im...   Apr 27 2005, 06:55 PM
|- - Chmee   quote=gregp1962,Apr 27 2005, 02:55 PM]Time for a t...   Apr 27 2005, 07:41 PM
- - djellison   Tank Tracks would be a nightmare - stuck on rocks,...   Apr 27 2005, 07:49 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   NASA went with the 6-wheel Rocker-Bogie design for...   Apr 27 2005, 08:34 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Make that "the official design for GROUND-CRA...   Apr 27 2005, 08:37 PM
- - djellison   The wheels will be pointing in funny directions be...   Apr 27 2005, 10:34 PM
- - Edward Schmitz   http://athena1.cornell.edu/news/mubss/ Steve does...   Apr 27 2005, 10:56 PM
- - Sunspot   The strange thing about this is that when Opportun...   Apr 28 2005, 12:34 AM
|- - Nirgal   if we ever get out of this ... I hope that the pl...   Apr 28 2005, 01:20 AM
- - Vladimorka   What about RATting the soil just in front of the f...   Apr 28 2005, 08:48 AM
- - Tman   The left track of Oppy at the beginning of digging...   Apr 28 2005, 08:54 AM
- - djellison   IDD couldnt can only reach the area between the tw...   Apr 28 2005, 09:02 AM
|- - paxdan   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 28 2005, 10:02 AM)IDD ...   Apr 28 2005, 10:25 AM
- - djellison   Making a 10kg rover tilt ever so slighlty when pre...   Apr 28 2005, 10:40 AM
|- - paxdan   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 28 2005, 11:40 AM)Maki...   Apr 28 2005, 12:33 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (paxdan @ Apr 28 2005, 12:33 PM)QUOTE (...   Apr 28 2005, 01:07 PM
|- - Marcel   Oh my ... http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opport...   Apr 28 2005, 01:43 PM
- - tuomio   This is very dangerous situation. You can see that...   Apr 28 2005, 01:49 PM
- - Marcel   QUOTE (tuomio @ Apr 28 2005, 01:49 PM)This is...   Apr 28 2005, 02:09 PM
- - mars_armer   QUOTE (Marcel @ Apr 28 2005, 02:09 PM)... As ...   Apr 28 2005, 02:17 PM
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