Pluto System Cartography, places and names |
Pluto System Cartography, places and names |
Dec 20 2015, 08:12 PM
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Dec 21 2015, 10:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
Thanks, Chuck. Is a Charon foldable globe in the works?
AND while I'm thinking of it in the "places and names" section-- has there ever been a proclamation of official IAU names for the Pluto-Charon system? As far as I can see we're still ticking along with "unofficial names". Odd, since Ceres is updated with official names through this month. --Bill -------------------- |
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Dec 22 2015, 03:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 140 Joined: 20-November 07 Member No.: 3967 |
a Charon foldable globe?
Yes, Charon is on my radar, but awaiting the more complete coverage release they promise here: http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Multimedia/Science...mp;image_id=264: "Many additional images now stored on the spacecraft’s digital data recorders are expected to be transmitted "home" in fall 2015 and these will be used to complete the global map." I'm prepping the Pluto data now for LPSC 47. If anyone can convert the colorized Pluto image to a simple cylindrical, I'd be happy to immediately update the Pluto daisy-petal map. Anyone? c |
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Mar 18 2016, 05:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1643 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Would someone be able to remind me where the best (possibly) official Pluto map is available? IIRC this is in "enhanced" color (IR/R/B) and about 18000 pixels across. It may or may not have feature names added. Thanks...
-------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Mar 18 2016, 07:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 27-September 10 Member No.: 5458 |
As far as I know, this is the current best map available. Its missing the other half of the imaged regions and is only a composition of the red and blue channels from MVIC though.
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Mar 19 2016, 02:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
Have we ever gotten official Pluto-system names or are we still moseying along with informal names?
--Bill -------------------- |
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Mar 19 2016, 03:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2517 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
Other than the general categories, I don't see anything at http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/ about official Pluto nomenclature.
See https://www.iau.org/public/themes/naming/ for a description of the process. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Mar 19 2016, 06:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
I wonder if they have submitted the names, or if they are planning to use the names informally until it is too late for the IAU to overrule them.
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Mar 19 2016, 07:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2517 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
I wonder if they have submitted the names, or if they are planning to use the names informally until it is too late for the IAU to overrule them. What does "too late" mean? The MSL team sometimes uses "Mount Sharp" in publications, but it's never going to be an official IAU name. The NH team uses their names in LPSC abstracts, with a caveat of "all feature names here are informal". I expect we've got a few hundred years at least before the names of surface features on Pluto are of more than academic interest. I suspect the lack of progress is a mixture of the general slowness of the process and some real controversy. Perhaps surprisingly, the IAU seems to have blessed the use of Charon as the home of sci-fi names. On the other hand, some of the NH team's suggestions are likely never going to be approved by IAU because they simply don't fit with the established naming conventions. http://www.geekwire.com/2015/pluto-we-have...ly-on-iau-maps/ I'd guess this has been discussed ad nauseum on other threads. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Mar 21 2016, 06:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
QUOTE What does "too late" mean? Just that some of the names like Sputnik Planum are likely to be the only names most people will remember for the features no matter what the IAU decides. |
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Mar 21 2016, 07:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
The IAU may been useful in the days when you documented a comet discovery by sending a telegram to Harvard, et al. I rather like the informal naming conventions on our non-planet system Pluto and Charon.
--Bill -------------------- |
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Mar 21 2016, 10:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2530 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 321 |
A tale I've mentioned before:
The USGS map and some scientific paper(s) used different names for one of Europa's linea features. As far as I could tell, I was the first person to catch the discrepancy. And what of it? It's never going to be a household name. Both the USGS designations and the paper are and will always be obscure. For the difference between de jure and de facto to mean much, there has to be more than a trivial number of people paying attention. |
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Mar 22 2016, 01:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 2-March 15 Member No.: 7408 |
At home, I have a browser plug-in configured to replace all occurrences of the word "official" with "IAU" in any paragraph that also contains the word "name" or "definition" on this site. My experience here improved significantly after I did that.
EDIT: In response to mcaplinger's post below (replying here so as not to continue the discussion below the red text (yes, I know that's cheating)): So in my post above you read "The MSL team sometimes uses "Mount Sharp" in publications, but it's never going to be an official IAU name" as "it's never going to be an IAU IAU name"? Yeah, that seems helpful. No; the browser plug-in I use lets me define substitutions using regular expressions, so I accounted for the "official IAU" case, as well as some other shouldn't-match cases using negative lookarounds. Seeing "official IAU" in your post was actually what made me think of it and decide to mention it. |
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Mar 22 2016, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2517 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
At home, I have a browser plug-in configured to replace all occurrences of the word "official" with "IAU" in any paragraph that also contains the word "name" or "definition" on this site. So in my post above you read "The MSL team sometimes uses "Mount Sharp" in publications, but it's never going to be an official IAU name" as "it's never going to be an IAU IAU name"? Yeah, that seems helpful. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Mar 22 2016, 11:49 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
MOD NOTE: Aaaaand that's the end of the IAU tangent here.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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