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Feb 11 2005, 08:11 AM
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Feb 11 2005, 02:39 PM
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Jason, Alvin, and Argo are names of deep sea submersibles, what are they doing on Mars? Will they be continuing with this theme for the crater names?
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Feb 11 2005, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (alan @ Feb 11 2005, 02:39 PM) Jason, Alvin, and Argo are names of deep sea submersibles, what are they doing on Mars? Will they be continuing with this theme for the crater names? And what were the submersibles named after Doug |
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Feb 11 2005, 04:47 PM
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Well, Jason was the guy that got the Golden Fleece, and his ship was named Argo.
http://www.pccc.cc.nj.us/asrc/readwrit/jason.html I have no idea what Alvin has to do with them , but here comes Google : The connection is Robert Ballard, the Undersea Explorer, who also served in a submarine called Alvin, before establishing the Jason-Argo project. |
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Feb 11 2005, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE (alan @ Feb 11 2005, 06:39 AM) Jason, Alvin, and Argo are names of deep sea submersibles, what are they doing on Mars? Will they be continuing with this theme for the crater names? Well, maybe after Alvin they will name the next two Simon and Theodore. -------------------- Lyford Rome
"Zis is not nuts, zis is super-nuts!" Mathematician Richard Courant on viewing an Orion test |
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Feb 11 2005, 07:09 PM
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Notwithstanding the Chipmunks...
According to http://www.sciencenetwork.com/turner/rdt-bio.html, Al Vine, of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, is the designer and namesake of Alvin. You learn something new every day! -------------------- Jonathan Ward
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Feb 11 2005, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (TheChemist @ Feb 11 2005, 09:47 AM) Well, Jason was the guy that got the Golden Fleece, and his ship was named Argo. http://www.pccc.cc.nj.us/asrc/readwrit/jason.html I have no idea what Alvin has to do with them , but here comes Google : The connection is Robert Ballard, the Undersea Explorer, who also served in a submarine called Alvin, before establishing the Jason-Argo project. well obviously the crater Jason was named after me And the crater Jason on Phoebe was also named after me -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Feb 13 2005, 10:02 PM
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For what it's worth, I've been inside Alvin.
This was in 1985, when I was working as a diver on an expedition to Saipan in the Marianas, to find a Spanish galleon that had sunk in 1638. I was walking along the dock, and there it was. I sweet-talked my way aboard. They were there to look at the weird colonies of creatures that had just been discovered around the deep-water volcanic vents, the 'smokers'. They had lots and lots of film that they had taken, and gave me an undeveloped roll! Altogether, a very exciting afternoon. |
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Feb 20 2005, 06:12 AM
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Feb 20 2005, 06:55 AM
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Another view of Alvin as it was passed (looks very similar to Eagle):
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...19P1772L0M1.JPG |
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Feb 20 2005, 07:07 AM
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Feb 20 2005, 10:12 PM
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Endurance Crater is only just visible in the rear hazcam images now
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...00P1315L0M1.JPG |
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Feb 20 2005, 10:30 PM
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Outcrop material without a crater or crack? First subtle signs of the etched terrain?
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...03P0711L0M1.JPG |
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Feb 20 2005, 11:02 PM
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Is that another crater visible in the distance?
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Feb 21 2005, 06:28 PM
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Obsessed - perhaps we're seeing some ancient ejecta that are in the process of being buried or exumed.
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Feb 21 2005, 09:18 PM
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It seems Oppy has moved again although it's hard to put any numbers on how far we have travelled. I don't see any features in the latest navcam, forward and rear hazcam images.
Forward Hazcam 2-21 Navcam 2-21 Rear Hazcam 2-21 |
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Feb 21 2005, 09:57 PM
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Oppy is currently doing some major driving, possibly exceeding previous records, over a 3-sol period (driving on all sols). Considering that the previous driving record is something like 156 meters or so per sol (someone please correct me), that should put us around 450 meters south of Jason crater by Wednesday.
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Feb 21 2005, 10:20 PM
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Now that is some serious driving! I like it
But are they planning to drive both forward and backward on these long traverses? To put an even load onto the drive mechanism. -------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
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Feb 21 2005, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE (dot.dk @ Feb 21 2005, 03:20 PM) But are they planning to drive both forward and backward on these long traverses? To put an even load onto the drive mechanism. Yes, it's a standard procedure now to do that, for both Spirit and Opportunity. I don't know the distance though at which point they switch, or what other criteria is used to determine the "ok stop, let's do 180 and drive the other way now"... |
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Feb 21 2005, 10:44 PM
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Feb 21 2005, 11:38 PM
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Has anyone found any MOLA data for this area of Merdiani? If the plains do slope downwards at the point indicated in Alan's image that might offer an explanantion why Vostok and perhaps even Victoria Crater have been so hard to identify - it is quite strange that there is no obvious sign of Victoria Crater... Endurance Crater is still visible even in the rear hazcam images.
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Feb 21 2005, 11:56 PM
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I seriously doubt there is any slope there, or it would've been visible on the horizon by now. The immediate area of Meridiani plain appears to be quite flat. I think it's just a darker windblown material deposited there...
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Feb 22 2005, 01:36 PM
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I am still wondering what the dark feature NE from Vostok is.
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Feb 22 2005, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE I am still wondering what the dark feature NE from Vostok is. I wonder, too. It seems to resemble the heatshield disturbance. --Bill -------------------- |
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Feb 23 2005, 12:10 AM
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Dunes ......... looking back towards Endurance
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...03P0617R0M1.JPG |
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Feb 23 2005, 12:16 AM
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Oppy moves on during sol 385, after sol 384 during which nothing happened as far as I can see (there might still be a problem with back-to-back drives):
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...03P0617R0M1.JPG No features to see, but the dunes look different further on: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...03P2380R1M1.JPG Maybe the larger dunes are causing the slightly darker region in the route map. -------------------- Antti Kuosmanen
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Feb 23 2005, 12:25 AM
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Rear Hazcam for the end of each sol
Sol 383: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...00P1315R0M1.JPG Sol 384: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...00P1315R0M1.JPG Sol 385 http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...00P1315R0M1.JPG The PanCam images of the dunes on sol 385 were taken late in the day so the shadows make them especially prominent...... |
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Feb 23 2005, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE (Sunspot @ Feb 23 2005, 12:25 AM) Rear Hazcam for the end of each sol Oh, you are right, there was a change of scenery between 383 and 384. Both the front and back hazcams looked so similar, that I didn't realise it :-) -------------------- Antti Kuosmanen
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Feb 23 2005, 08:14 AM
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Are the drivers following the zigzag path set out in the "Road to Vostok" map or are they making a beeline due south of Endurance using the receding feature to help them keep their bearings? Just curious.
-------------------- - My signature idea machine is busted right now.
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Feb 23 2005, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE (Sunspot @ Feb 22 2005, 07:10 PM) Dunes ......... looking back towards Endurance http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...03P0617R0M1.JPG This reminds me so much of Snorkling off the coast of cuba. I was just looking down from about 30 feet deep. And those ripples look so simular to what I saw. |
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Feb 23 2005, 07:53 PM
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Any idea where Opportunity is now? The navcam pan looks nearly featureless - you'd think Vostok would be close enough now to be clearly imaged.
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Feb 23 2005, 08:28 PM
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It's impossible to say, we'll have to wait for some official information from the people at JPL.... but Opportunity performed drives on sols 383, 384 and 385 - with hopefuly another one today, so they must be making good progress south.
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Feb 24 2005, 08:06 AM
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So far no new images from sol 386 are in at the exploratorium. Did they have a restricted sol? They should be pretty far south after 3 consecutive days of driving. If Vostok isn't visible, is it because it is a flat feature?
Bubbinski/Space Cadet -------------------- - My signature idea machine is busted right now.
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Feb 24 2005, 08:36 AM
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Based on some of the latest images, looks like Oppy has been driving directly South which is more toward Vostok than the originally planned route. That route was more South/South-West toward the other small crater after Jason... Interesting...
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Feb 24 2005, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE (Bubbinski @ Feb 24 2005, 08:06 AM) So far no new images from sol 386 are in at the exploratorium. Did they have a restricted sol? They should be pretty far south after 3 consecutive days of driving. If Vostok isn't visible, is it because it is a flat feature? Bubbinski/Space Cadet Maybe they'll come down in an overnight Oddysey pass? |
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Feb 24 2005, 05:49 PM
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According to the latest director update ( February 22nd ), Opportunity drove a whopping 177 meters on sol 383 and on sol 384 added another 104!
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Feb 24 2005, 06:04 PM
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I had to listen more than one time to confirm that it was 177 m
That's brilliant -------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
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Feb 24 2005, 07:41 PM
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so any idea where we are yet?
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Feb 24 2005, 07:47 PM
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http://qt.exploratorium.edu:16080/mars/opp...00P2663L5M1.JPG
Could the feature on the right horizon be Vostok? |
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Feb 24 2005, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (ObsessedWithWorlds @ Feb 24 2005, 05:49 PM) According to the latest director update ( February 22nd ), Opportunity drove a whopping 177 meters on sol 383 and on sol 384 added another 104! The figures given in the flight director's report were goals, not confirmed values. They'll find out today (from downloaded data) whether the goals were achieved or not. |
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Feb 24 2005, 08:12 PM
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I think she meant they were waiting for an imminent Odyssey pass with data and results of the Sol 385 drive.
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Feb 24 2005, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE so any idea where we are yet? I think we're somewhere in the lower end of the purple (200m) line on this map: http://mer.rlproject.com/index.php?act=Att...pe=post&id=5284 edit: ^^ it's a pretty wild guess though based on the fact that oppy took a turn toward South after Jason, not toward one of the other craters along the route... |
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Feb 25 2005, 12:42 AM
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This must be the cluster of small craters on to the left of the 200 m mark
http://mer.rlproject.com/index.php?act=Att...pe=post&id=5284 -------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
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Feb 25 2005, 12:49 AM
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WHOAHHHH !!!!
They must have done a hell of a lot of driving the past few sols |
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Feb 25 2005, 01:05 AM
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This is a mystery to me...
Very quick and dirty pan... http://img223.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img223&image=pan8yl.jpg How did they get here from THERE?? Endurance+Heatshield to the left, but Oppy is coming from a different direction -------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
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Feb 25 2005, 01:08 AM
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Perhaps they turned right where we can see the rover tracks stops...
Well they must have done it that way... -------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
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Feb 25 2005, 01:14 AM
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I'm assuming these pancam images were taken looking in the next drive direction:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...00P2381R1M1.JPG http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...00P2381R1M1.JPG Still nothing immediately obvious on or just below the horizon ..... I still think the annulus of bright material we see in orbital images of vostok is nothing more than dust, all the craters have it, you can see it in orbital images of the craters Opportunity is sitting in front of right now, yet from the ground they appear pretty dark. |
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Feb 25 2005, 01:32 AM
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Sol 383: 177m
Sol 384: 104m Sol 385: 109m Sol 386: no drive Sol 387: 80m Sol 388: no drive Interesting route there. Looks like they didn't quite want to visit the craters along the route but then all of a sudden changed their minds and made a quick shortcut to the crater triplet. That's where we are now... |
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Feb 25 2005, 02:32 AM
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I think they did turn right as if you notice the tracks that are at an angle slightly disappear but the tracks that are aligned with the camera are more visible.
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...00P0680R0M1.JPG So tracks at 90 degrees to the camera will be invisible at that kind of distance as they will be hidden by the height of the dunes. This post has been edited by MahFL: Feb 25 2005, 02:34 AM |
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Feb 25 2005, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE (alan @ Feb 21 2005, 10:44 PM) Wow, 450 meters, should have a good view of Vostok from there. Or maybe not |
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Feb 25 2005, 10:18 AM
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Luckily, we have a beacon pointing to North
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Feb 25 2005, 05:10 PM
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Judging by the tracks, the feature on the horizon about a quarter of the way from the left edge of this image could be Vostok. I missed it the first time I looked at the picture as I was staring at the outcroppings.
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...00P0680L0M1.JPG |
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Feb 25 2005, 05:34 PM
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That can't be because it's look at West. Vostok is toward South-East.
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Feb 25 2005, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE (Pando @ Feb 25 2005, 05:34 PM) That can't be because it's look at West. Vostok is toward South-East. Hmm. Should've figured that out by the direction of the dunes. The last Pamcams from 2/24 are looking SE-ish. http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...00P2381R1M1.JPG |
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Feb 25 2005, 08:36 PM
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Personally I don't think Vostok is visible at all unless you're almost on top of it. The rim is probably totally eroded away so that it's just a flat bedrock peeking through the soil.
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Feb 26 2005, 03:26 AM
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I thought this was Vostok. It's about a third the way from the right side of the image, just below the horizon. They've been taking lots of L4 L5 L6 pictures of it for a while now.
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Feb 26 2005, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE (Fred @ Feb 26 2005, 03:26 AM) I thought this was Vostok. It's about a third the way from the right side of the image, just below the horizon. They've been taking lots of L4 L5 L6 pictures of it for a while now. No - I've made the same mistake - that's a large crater way out to the east somewhere. (notice the dunes running across the field of view - not in line with it ) Doug |
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Feb 26 2005, 06:14 PM
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Feb 26 2005, 07:07 PM
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They will have a hard time keeping this map up to date given Oppys current pace
Already 300 meter farther south than the map shows -------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
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Feb 26 2005, 09:00 PM
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^ WOW! How close are they to Vostok?
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Feb 26 2005, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (Decepticon @ Feb 26 2005, 09:00 PM) ^ WOW! How close are they to Vostok? That close http://mer.rlproject.com/index.php?act=Att...pe=post&id=5855 -------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
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Feb 27 2005, 01:04 PM
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....damn, I guess the person that updates the pictures is on holiday
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Feb 27 2005, 08:08 PM
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Sol 389 Pancam images......
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...unity_p389.html These images aren't showing up on the exploratorium site |
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Feb 28 2005, 03:51 AM
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Blueberries everywhere we look. I got a creepy feeling that this seemed familiar
and realized it strongly reminded me of the "black flies" in Stanislaw Lem's The Invincible. I'm not suggesting the blueberries are anything like the remnants of microrobots in Lem's fiction... but the descriptions in that book have an eerie similarity to our pictures from Mars. |
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Feb 28 2005, 04:20 PM
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Feb 28 2005, 06:52 PM
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Could this be in the direction of Vostok?
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...00P2286L7M1.JPG I wonder if the dark line with what I assume is a rock above it is the small crater nearly midway between Oppys current position and Vostok. Just above it is another linear feature, possibly Vostok? Possible meteorite?: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...00P2287L7M1.JPG |
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Feb 28 2005, 09:09 PM
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Sunspot: to my opinion, Pancam images from Sol 390 heads toward SW to NW; then Vostok cannot be seen.
Here is a little version of Sol 390 stitched images. I believe Opportunity is parked East of the "two big, one little, crater cluster" (see Opportunity route map image Sol 387). These three craters are seen on the Pan below: the Eastern one on the foreground, the Western on left, the little Northern one halfway to the right side of the Pan. Sand dunes orientation (roughly North South) may fit also with a Westward view. -------------------- Erwann |
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Mar 2 2005, 10:22 PM
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Mar 3 2005, 12:59 AM
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So, are we at Vostok? The map above makes it appear that way.
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Mar 3 2005, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE (gregp1962 @ Mar 2 2005, 05:59 PM) So, are we at Vostok? The map above makes it appear that way. No. There is a Mars Clock for both rovers at: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html You'll see that Oppy's current sol is Sol 393. |
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Mar 3 2005, 01:23 AM
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I wonder if it would be possible to add a mars clock to this forum? At the top of the page so it's always visible.
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Mar 3 2005, 01:28 AM
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The Insider Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 73 |
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Mar 3 2005, 01:40 AM
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The Insider Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 73 |
Going off-topic here but here's probably the coolest clock I've seen on the web (Earth time though).
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Mar 3 2005, 03:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1281 Joined: 18-December 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 124 |
QUOTE (Sunspot @ Mar 2 2005, 05:23 PM) I wonder if it would be possible to add a mars clock to this forum? At the top of the page so it's always visible. Get mhoward's MIDNIGHT MARS BROWSER and keep it running in a window - keeps great Mars time by rover! -------------------- Lyford Rome
"Zis is not nuts, zis is super-nuts!" Mathematician Richard Courant on viewing an Orion test |
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Mar 3 2005, 03:35 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 81 Joined: 25-February 05 From: New Jersey Member No.: 177 |
QUOTE (lyford @ Mar 3 2005, 03:00 AM) QUOTE (Sunspot @ Mar 2 2005, 05:23 PM) I wonder if it would be possible to add a mars clock to this forum? At the top of the page so it's always visible. Get mhoward's MIDNIGHT MARS BROWSER and keep it running in a window - keeps great Mars time by rover! That's three minutes ahead of the JPL clock - what's with that? Who's right? -------------------- ----------------------------------------------
"Too low they build, who build beneath the stars." - Edward Young |
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Mar 3 2005, 05:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 259 Joined: 23-January 05 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 156 |
Don't forget Mars24...
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Mar 3 2005, 08:54 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
QUOTE (Sunspot @ Mar 3 2005, 01:23 AM) I wonder if it would be possible to add a mars clock to this forum? At the top of the page so it's always visible. Not easily Without just stealing the flash one at JPL's site. Doug |
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Mar 3 2005, 09:34 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 24-November 04 From: Heraklion, GR. Member No.: 112 |
I noticed in the last route update, that Opportunity's goes inside Vostok
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Mar 3 2005, 10:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 29-January 05 Member No.: 161 |
QUOTE (TheChemist @ Mar 3 2005, 09:34 AM) I noticed in the last route update, that Opportunity's goes inside Vostok that assumes that Vostok is a crater, some say it may be a mound ... :> new panorama of 'Naturaliste' Crater, Sol 387 here -------------------- |
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Mar 3 2005, 11:18 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
If it was a mound of any height - we WOULD have seen it by now
imho - it's a very very erroded crater, much more so than eagle/fram etc - i.e. pre hydrological activity - it'll just be exactly what it appears on the orbital images - a ring of exposed rock perhaps a few CM above the surrounding area with no inner 'dip' or dunes Doug |
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Mar 3 2005, 11:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 24-November 04 From: Heraklion, GR. Member No.: 112 |
QUOTE (cIclops @ Mar 3 2005, 12:39 PM) QUOTE (TheChemist @ Mar 3 2005, 09:34 AM) I noticed in the last route update, that Opportunity's goes inside Vostok that assumes that Vostok is a crater, some say it may be a mound ... :> Well, it must be a really low mound, otherwise it should be visible by now. Edit : it appears Doug types faster |
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Mar 3 2005, 01:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Brittany (France) Member No.: 164 |
According to Pando's last Opportunity routemap (link: Pando's RouteMap) and JPL's sol 387 Pan (link: Pan sol 387), Vostok should be seen on that sol 387 Navcam picture: 1N162546176EFF4700P0680L0M1.JPG
(on the left part of the horizon, and roughly 400m far). Thus in fact "it must been a really low mount", as you wrote Djellison and TheChemist... -------------------- Erwann |
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Mar 3 2005, 01:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 813 Joined: 8-February 04 From: Arabia Terra Member No.: 12 |
Astrobio has a nice javascript Mars clock. Just add this to the page source:
<script src="http://www.astrobio.net/news/javascript/marstime.js"></script> |
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Mar 3 2005, 02:05 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
To be honest - it'd piss me off If I want to know the time on mars, I load up Mars24 Great though the Invision board is -it's cluttered and noisey enough already. It'd be breaking my own rule about excessive signatures ( I HATE signatures that go on and on about peoples PC specification WHY DO I CARE!! )
Hell - what next - BA Flight schedules from Heathrow to KSC in the menu bar Doug |
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Mar 3 2005, 04:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
QUOTE (MiniTES @ Mar 3 2005, 03:35 AM) That's three minutes ahead of the JPL clock - what's with that? Who's right? I think MMB's is just a couple seconds off Mars24's. I'm not exactly sure why the difference from Mars24, possible a rounding error. Couple seconds off was close enough for my purposes. |
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Mar 3 2005, 05:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1281 Joined: 18-December 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 124 |
QUOTE (cIclops @ Mar 3 2005, 02:39 AM) new panorama of 'Naturaliste' Crater, Sol 387 here QTVR of the 'Naturaliste' Crater, Sol 387, panorama here: "site_A47_cyl-med.mov" Just a quickie, but I like the "being there" feel... Looks like the "vessels of discovery" naming meme still applies...though I don't remember any "Voyages of the Naturaliste," Google again saves the day! -------------------- Lyford Rome
"Zis is not nuts, zis is super-nuts!" Mathematician Richard Courant on viewing an Orion test |
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Mar 3 2005, 06:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Brittany (France) Member No.: 164 |
Looking all around Naturalist QTVR Pan; damnation, where is Vostok? Thanks, Lyford.
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Mar 3 2005, 06:33 PM
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Martian Photographer Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 3-March 05 Member No.: 183 |
QUOTE (Sunspot @ Mar 3 2005, 01:23 AM) I wonder if it would be possible to add a mars clock to this forum? At the top of the page so it's always visible. You can get a non-Flash (but javascript) html Mars clock at: http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~lemmon/mars/MERClocks/mera.html http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~lemmon/mars/MERClocks/merb.html http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~lemmon/mars/MERClocks.zip It is as accurate as the UTC clock of the computer it is run on, or to within a couple seconds for a time-synched computer. It can be put in another web page or set as a desktop feature (at least for windows, haven't tried elsewhere). |
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Mar 3 2005, 06:55 PM
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The Insider Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 73 |
curious, why choose Deimos as opposed to Phobos as a screen name...
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Mar 4 2005, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE (cIclops @ Mar 3 2005, 10:39 AM) QUOTE (TheChemist @ Mar 3 2005, 09:34 AM) I noticed in the last route update, that Opportunity's goes inside Vostok that assumes that Vostok is a crater, some say it may be a mound ... :> new panorama of 'Naturaliste' Crater, Sol 387 here I think they'll take one look at Vostok and drive right on by lol .... I still don't believe the white annulus visible from MOC images is bedrock... I think it's lighter coloured dust that's accumulated around the object.... all the craters show this when seen from orbit. |
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Mar 4 2005, 03:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 29-January 05 Member No.: 161 |
QUOTE (Sunspot @ Mar 4 2005, 02:02 PM) I think they'll take one look at Vostok and drive right on by lol .... I still don't believe the white annulus visible from MOC images is bedrock... I think it's lighter coloured dust that's accumulated around the object.... all the craters show this when seen from orbit. I found this previously released image of Vostok, as you can see they are looking into it and it is surrounded by a lighter coloured dust that's accumulated around the object. Well called Sunspot ps Vostok was Gagarin's spacecraft, you can read the fascinating story here -------------------- |
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Mar 4 2005, 03:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 128 Joined: 5-May 04 Member No.: 74 |
Vostok was the Russian equivalent of the American Mercury program, so it was the spacecraft for Gagarin, Titov, Tereshkova, and several others.
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Mar 4 2005, 03:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Brittany (France) Member No.: 164 |
cIclops: your post raises the question of Vostok's images true colors, and i am pretty sure the following one is more accurate :
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Mar 4 2005, 07:22 PM
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Daily updates are coming in for Spirit..nothing for Opportunity for a few days now
that always makes me nervous lol EDIT: a new flight directors update is available, they should be driving over the weekend and hope to be at Vostok early next week. |
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Mar 4 2005, 08:51 PM
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The Insider Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 73 |
Yes, driving on Sols 394,396,397, no drive for today, Sol 395 (restricted Sol).
Assuming yesterday's drive was successful (let's say about 140-160 meters), we should be sitting around the Sol 395 marker on the map right now, continuing on toward Vostok over the weekend, and be there by Monday. http://mer.rlproject.com/index.php?act=Att...pe=post&id=6069 |
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Mar 5 2005, 01:23 AM
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The Insider Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 73 |
Looks like a nice long drive backwards toward South-East on Sol 394
edit: looking back on sol 394 at a drive made on sol 393...? maybe? |
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Mar 5 2005, 02:02 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Brittany (France) Member No.: 164 |
Hello Pando, mhoward, folks: i wonder why Pando just post Sol 394 Opportunity images: Exploratorium is up! Tralalalarere, just a Froggie folk song...
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Mar 5 2005, 08:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 710 Joined: 28-September 04 Member No.: 99 |
Yes, exploratorium is back, but it skipped the PanCam images of the Opportunity triplet crater that were posted on the jpl site the last few days....
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Mar 5 2005, 02:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
QUOTE (ObsessedWithWorlds @ Mar 5 2005, 08:22 AM) Yes, exploratorium is back, but it skipped the PanCam images of the Opportunity triplet crater that were posted on the jpl site the last few days.... You should let them know that, if that's the case, it might be a bug with their software. (Chuckle... kind of an inside joke for me there.) On second thought, I suppose it might be a bug with *my* software, if you're using it, so maybe I'll just shut up... |
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Mar 5 2005, 03:18 PM
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According to Pando's routhe map todays drive should take us up to Vostok
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