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Sep 2 2006, 05:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 2-September 06 Member No.: 1097 |
hello.. i am trying to model in 3d the mars rover and can't find the correct material, so I was wondering whether anyone in here has access to more information than I do and cares to help.
I am looking for detailed pictures of rover parts from all sides (top, left, right and bottom). I am attaching a few pics for the members to see the progress of my work. Trying to be as accurate as possible. Process is really slow since I have to make stuff out of bad reference pics I've tried collecting material from the nasa site, from raw images coming from the rover, from roobtics' sites etc, but couldn't come up with the correct reference i am seeking. if anyone cares to help, please do so -------------------- |
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Jun 15 2007, 07:43 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Just drop the cash straight into it.
Wish I could help more with ref. material - but with the KSC website you've got all there is really. These may help - images taken by the rovers themselves : http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...HEP1152L0M1.JPG http://pancam.astro.cornell.edu/pancam_ins...lse_color6.html ( left column, half way down) Doug |
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Jun 15 2007, 09:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 2-September 06 Member No.: 1097 |
djellison, first pic doesn't help at all. shows the bottom part of the mer arm which I have already modeled. what I am having trouble sorting out is the base of the instrument deployment device (idd - I sometimes surprise myself because of the things I learned researching stuff), which is the part that keeps the idd attached on the mer's body.
2nd link also provides same info. these photos would have helped me a lot earlier when I was studying crappy material to make things out. I'll keep them anyway a great THANKS! if anyone is able to get the rear of the mer or the base of idd, please do so for the idd I even emailed the original designers of the thing (alliance spacesystems) to provide me with material but didn't even reply. I guess they were afraid I might steal their patent! -------------------- |
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Jun 27 2007, 08:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1619 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Bergerac - FR Member No.: 678 |
Gargle
The 3D model looks very spectacular. I'm amazed I have a question : is it possible that one day we can acceed to the model files (.3ds, .WRL or more for me : .blend (Blender files)) And I have an other question : how do you proceed to make the model : object by object or...? -------------------- |
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Jun 27 2007, 08:54 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 2-September 06 Member No.: 1097 |
well, as for you ppl accessing the files, prolly not sorry!
as for the modeling process, yes, part by part (like exporting/texturing) and if i am tired and have no reference for one part i proceed to the next till i get reference! more pics to come soon! -------------------- |
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Jun 27 2007, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
well, as for you ppl accessing the files, prolly not sorry! I must say that comes as a bit of a disappointment Scooterlord. I've been watching your project all along was envisioning all the creative things that could be accomplished with the final product. Is this being created for commercial purposes? You have obviously put in many dozens of hours of hard work and certainly have earned the right to do whatever you want with your product. If you've spent much time browsing UMSF however, you may have noticed the fantastic things the people here have accomplished through collaboration. Have you considered perhaps sharing a smaller dataset of lesser quality so that you are the one retaining the best part of your hard work? That's what I do with some of the photographic products I spend hours creating. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Jun 27 2007, 03:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 2-September 06 Member No.: 1097 |
well, sorry if some of you guys are dissapointed, but can't promise you anything till the model is finished. I am doing it mainly for challenging my modeling and perception skills but I wouldn't mind earning some money for it maybe from a company interested in using this for commercial use :/
but, hey, hm.. maybe i could provide you guys with a less detailed model of the mer. just wait the estimated 6motnhs to have it done (modeling ONLY that is) and then we'll see I just rendered this test (head of mer remodeled from scratch) and thought I'd share -------------------- |
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Jun 27 2007, 03:06 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
for commercial use Realistically, any and all commercial requirement for such a model has been well and truely covered by Dan Maas's work for the pre-launch Animation, the two Nova documentaries (for which he was Emmy nominated) and the Imax movie. Your model is just stunning - but I can't imagine a 'market' for it. Doug |
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Jun 27 2007, 03:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 2-September 06 Member No.: 1097 |
well, thought it would be nice didn't say it would happen anyway, I am not negative with the whole story, we'll see. just be patient till I am done!
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Jun 27 2007, 03:48 PM
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Rover Driver Group: Members Posts: 1015 Joined: 4-March 04 Member No.: 47 |
How detailed is the Dan Maas model anyway?
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Jun 27 2007, 03:58 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Not as good as Scooters, lots of it is done with good texturing, but it's good enough to stand up to the 4k res of Imax. The Imax version is a step up from the version in the usual EDL anim - for instance the arrays are 'glassy' only on the cells themselves, not on the whole panel.
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Jun 27 2007, 08:54 PM
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Director of Galilean Photography Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 93 |
Well, Scooter's work I would put in the semi-pro/pro category, so I kinda expected he would want some money for it. Scooter, would you be willing to release your model for sale for a time period, and after that time let us pass the hat around for a UMSF license?
-------------------- Space Enthusiast Richard Hendricks
-- "The engineers, as usual, made a tremendous fuss. Again as usual, they did the job in half the time they had dismissed as being absolutely impossible." --Rescue Party, Arthur C Clarke Mother Nature is the final inspector of all quality. |
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Jun 28 2007, 08:02 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 2-September 06 Member No.: 1097 |
as I said, once I am done anything is possible it's still a long way ahead and am already lacking important pieces of reference! wait and see!
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Jul 15 2007, 06:48 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: 1-August 06 From: Vienna, Austria Member No.: 1002 |
Moreover as you can see there's no dust cover in the following reference as well. in 8 out of 10 pics there's no dust cover depicted thats why I chose not to model it. Scooterlord these images clearly show the MI transparent dust cover in action. Closed/Open: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/na...CMP1936L0M1.JPG http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/na...CMP1936L0M1.JPG I think your model is only missing the arm bit of the cover which connects it to the motor. Your model is ultra impressive. Great work. |
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Aug 3 2007, 10:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 2-September 06 Member No.: 1097 |
hey there...
I have a new render for ppl interested in the project, this was the most difficult part to do - the connectors between the top part of the mer. at first look they might all look the same, but in closer inspection they are far from being the same. anyway, here it is, hope you enjoy it, I still have a lot of things to do, but it's coming out really nicely and I have studied thoroughly the reference I have and looks like I have enough material to finish a few important stuff. enough said, here it is: comments welcome as always! -------------------- |
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Aug 3 2007, 10:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1619 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Bergerac - FR Member No.: 678 |
Incredible! Absolutely incredible! I'm always fascinating about the high detailled-level of your model. Very good job.
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