Phoenix animations official thread |
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Oct 2 2008, 07:20 AM
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What about collecting into a single thread all cool animated GIFs about Phoenix activities?
A possible list of cool images is: - soil digging - ice scraping - TEGA filling - ice melting - dust devils - sunset/sunrise - snowing Thanks for your contribution! Direct links to images, or even attachments, would be better than just links to pages which link to images. Standalone page with inline animations: http://www.planetmobile.it/jumpjack/immagi...ni-phoenix.html |
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Oct 2 2008, 07:52 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I don't want attachments doubled up purely to be put into an animation thread. If they're already on the forum, link to the post they're in.
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Oct 2 2008, 08:28 AM
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Oct 2 2008, 08:30 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
As I said - link to the post they're in.
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Oct 4 2008, 05:45 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
Off site animations are even better. There is a nice, off site gif animation of frost accumulating on the telltale mirror here.
QUOTE Bright specks of frost accumulate on the mirror of the telltale on NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander in this series of images taken between 12:54 a.m. and 2:34 a.m. at the landing site during the 80th Martian day, or sol, of the mission (on Aug. 15, 2008). Here is an off site animation of a dust devil from the same Canadian site. QUOTE "It was a surprise to have a dust devil so visible that it stood with just the normal processing we do," said Mark Lemmon of Texas A&M University, College Station, lead scientist for the stereo camera. "Once we saw a couple that way, we did some additional processing and found there are dust devils in 12 of the images." It still blows my mind to realize I am seeing dust devils on the northern arctic plains of Mars as winter approaches. This is indeed a strange planet. -------------------- ...Tom
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Oct 4 2008, 08:18 AM
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Full inline quote removed - ADMIN
DD even at pole?!? really a weird planet. I thought DD where caused by warm/hot air... |
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Oct 4 2008, 09:08 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Yes - they've been observed from orbit, and now from the ground. They're caused by relative heat - not just heat per-se.
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Oct 4 2008, 10:18 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Sorry if it has already been said here, but I wonder if they use the same kind of software as MER's to image DD?
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Oct 4 2008, 10:47 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
No - the PHX and MER avionics are quite different.
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Oct 4 2008, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
What amazes me is not that we're seeing dust devils -- as Doug said, it's all a matter of relative temps, as long as the differential is of the right magnitude, it doesn't really matter what the overall temperature state is.
No, what amazes me is that there doesn't seem to be any albedo impact from these DDs. In other regions, DD tracks are quite obvious and even prominent. Here, there was no trace of such DD "leavings" in any of the HiRISE images of the area. It's not because the soil is of uniform albedo -- we can see very clearly that the soil disturbed by Phoenix's landing thrusters is much darker than the undisturbed soil. Also, soil disturbed by impact from the heatshield and backshell shows a distinct darkening. Why, then, if DDs roam these plains, are there no DD tracks? That's the really fascinating question here, to me. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Oct 4 2008, 08:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
No enough dust?
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Oct 5 2008, 02:07 AM
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Martian Photographer Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 3-March 05 Member No.: 183 |
Maybe they just need to take another Hirise image? MOC images of the Phoenix latitude band show lots of dust devil tracks, even if the hirise of Phoenix did not. So, maybe they fade quickly, but are there now. Or, maybe these are just too small. Only one or two of the Phoenix dust devils favorably compare to the typical Spirit dust devils. The rest are smaller and pick up much less dust.
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Oct 5 2008, 07:51 AM
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Or - maybe there are streaks being created by these DD's - but - in the same way we couldn't see the heat-shield at first - the lumpy bumpy nature of the terrain hides them?
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Oct 5 2008, 09:00 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 877 Joined: 7-March 05 From: Switzerland Member No.: 186 |
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Oct 5 2008, 12:23 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
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Oct 5 2008, 01:09 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
W-O-W!!!
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Oct 5 2008, 06:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
Well, we've known for a century that the "north polar hood" of clouds and haze forms every Martian spring and fall. But I'll tell you, I'm *really* pumped to see it floating overhead like the leaden lid of an overcast day. That really makes Mars a familiar-looking place, to me.
I just worry a bit about how much energy-delivering sunlight those clouds are blocking. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Oct 5 2008, 06:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
I just worry a bit about how much energy-delivering sunlight those clouds are blocking. Probably not that much, in fact they could mostly be forward-scattering light in essence making the illumination more diffuse only. -------------------- |
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Oct 5 2008, 07:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4252 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
I just worry a bit about how much energy-delivering sunlight those clouds are blocking. See this post. |
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Oct 5 2008, 07:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 19-March 05 From: Princeton, NJ, USA Member No.: 212 |
Tman and Stu : Fabulous, thank you
I just added these (with credits) to my upcoming lectures http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&p=127287 this thread is an excellent idea ken |
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Oct 6 2008, 01:51 AM
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It may just be an artifact of the animation, but it sure looks like there's a fallout streak visible under one of those clouds - look at each frame separately. Please someone convince me I am mistaken.
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Oct 6 2008, 07:28 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
One could certainly infer fallout under these clouds. It's what LIDAR is telling us.
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Oct 6 2008, 08:58 AM
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Oct 6 2008, 09:04 AM
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Another cool animation:
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&id=15844 I guess it\'s due to the wind? It\'s by ElkGroveDan (Post: http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...t&p=126143) How can I attach to this message same attachment of another message without saving it to my hard disk? EDIT: More clouds: http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/ww...clouds-m-02.gif (LINK) Melting ice: http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/dodo_020_024.gif (LINK:http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/events/nasa_phoenix_landing/) In this thread there are a lot of good animations! http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...5420&st=315 I'll ask them to post them here. http://phoenixpics.files.wordpress.com/200...l101sunrise.gif Telltale: http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&id=15600 Tega filling and solar panels "flapping"!!! http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&id=15624 |
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Oct 10 2008, 07:16 AM
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Ever seen stars on Mars?
Look at them... through the clouds! http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/phoenix/col...on_16/16006.gif |
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Oct 10 2008, 09:34 AM
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I collected all animations found in this thread, and many others, into a single, HEAVY web page:
http://www.planetmobile.it/jumpjack/immagi...ni-phoenix.html (link is also in first post) |
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Oct 10 2008, 03:08 PM
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Martian Photographer Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 3-March 05 Member No.: 183 |
Ever seen stars on Mars? Look at them... through the clouds! http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/phoenix/col...on_16/16006.gif Those are hot pixels in the detector. The sky is too bright at all times for SSI to see stars. But, stars have been seen from Mars' surface, as has Earth. Some examples are at http://pancam.astro.cornell.edu/pancam_ins...projects_2.html. |
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Oct 10 2008, 04:00 PM
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Those are hot pixels in the detector. The sky is too bright at all times for SSI to see stars. But, stars have been seen from Mars' surface, as has Earth. Some examples are at http://pancam.astro.cornell.edu/pancam_ins...projects_2.html. why only in those images those pixels are visible?!? |
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Oct 10 2008, 04:04 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
There are actually hot pixels visible in lots of images, but when there is more details to them, they get lost within the detail.
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Oct 19 2008, 01:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 3108 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
Sol141 clouds with dust devils. I've contrast stretched the sky and ground separately to bring out the details.
The DDs are quite tall contrasted against the clouds. Sol141_Clouds_DDs.wmv ( 366.5K ) Number of downloads: 745 |
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Oct 19 2008, 02:01 PM
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Sol141 clouds with dust devils. I've contrast stretched the sky and ground separately to bring out the details. The DDs are quite tall contrasted against the clouds. Sol141_Clouds_DDs.wmv ( 366.5K ) Number of downloads: 745 Stormy. But I don't see the DDs.... Any chance to see such an animation in color? |
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Oct 19 2008, 02:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 3108 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
The DDs come right at the end - last 3-4 frames. Tall columns against the sky. Not to be confused with the clouds.
I'm sure that some UMSF'er could colourise the scene, but I think it would never look quite right. |
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Oct 19 2008, 07:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
I can't see nuttin'!
Wish I knew why so many of these .wmv things knock up a QT page and then show a blank screen. I suppose it's my Zone Alarm wall, but I just wish it would give me the option to be protected or not. ...sigh -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Oct 19 2008, 08:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 24-November 04 From: Heraklion, GR. Member No.: 112 |
Seems to me you need to associate .wmv and .avi files with your Windows Media Player (assuming you do run some sort of Windows ?), and stop blaming the poor firewall.
The QT player cannot read .avi files such as this one, unless there is some extra codec which you can download for it (if such codec exists, I have no idea), maybe the Mac people here can help. |
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Oct 19 2008, 09:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
The QT player cannot read .avi files such as this one, unless there is some extra codec which you can download for it (if such codec exists, I have no idea), maybe the Mac people here can help. Right-click the file and download it. Then change its extension from .wmv.avi to just .wmv. Then load it in QuickTime player. I don't know why... that's just what works here. And you must have Flip4Mac installed. |
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Oct 20 2008, 12:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
I just wanna thank all you wunnerful people around the world for helpin' me out here.
My favorite Chemist hit it first try, and, after roaming around looking for preference menus, I found the one that matters in Firefox! Why all those video file types were assigned to the Quicktime player I have no idea - (I certainly didn't tell it to do that.) - but now they're assigned to the Windows player, and -JOY! - I get to watch Astro0's great movie. Color me happy. -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Nov 2 2008, 06:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
It has been my experience that when you install various media players, certain ones hijack file extensions promiscuously. You need to be cautious when accepting their installation defaults.
edited to repair grammar -------------------- ...Tom
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