High altitude balloon payload, from Sable-3 discussion |
High altitude balloon payload, from Sable-3 discussion |
 Sep 26 2007, 11:16 PM
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http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...20&start=20
We began talkin about a UMSF balloon - and who know what might happen if enough people think about something hard enough, thoroughly enough and long enough. How's about this as a starting point. http://vpizza.org/~jmeehan/balloon/ with http://www.chem.hawaii.edu/uham/part101.html as an important regulatory start point (I'm going to look up the UK regs for this as well) http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cuspaceflight/nova1launch.html is also very impressive - all done in the UK This http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/...video_podc.html is particularly impressive - I like the multiple-cameras slant. Anyway - thought I'd get a thread going - this is an idea I like too much to let it gather dust in a corner - the one thing that I think would be nice to achieve is self-portraiture of some sort - think Beagle 2's WAM etc....perhaps in a corner of the FOV of one of/the imaging system. What sort of limit's should we set ourselves? 1kg 10x10x20cm? (sort of 2U Cubesat-on-a-diet budget) Doug |
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Oct 1 2007, 04:37 AM
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Well... considering the fact that Voyagers 1 and 2 were originally to be Mariners (though I have no idea if they would have been Mariners 11 and 12 or not), we *almost* got a second successful pair-launch out of the program!
-the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Oct 1 2007, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 1 2007, 06:37 AM)  Well... considering the fact that Voyagers 1 and 2 were originally to be Mariners (though I have no idea if they would have been Mariners 11 and 12 or not), we *almost* got a second successful pair-launch out of the program! I'm wondering... had they been indeed called Mariners, would they have both launched successfully or would Vgr 1's Titan booster for example decide to underperform some more? 
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djellison High altitude balloon payload Sep 26 2007, 11:16 PM
helvick I'm definitely on board for this but I'm i... Sep 27 2007, 06:32 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (helvick @ Sep 27 2007, 01:32 AM) I... Sep 27 2007, 03:26 PM Paolo Amoroso QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 27 2007, 01:16 AM)... Sep 27 2007, 09:39 AM djellison That's what WAM means - Wide Angle Mirror - yo... Sep 27 2007, 10:06 AM Paolo Amoroso QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 27 2007, 12:06 PM)... Sep 27 2007, 01:34 PM djellison A starter for 10:
Powershot A570IS (IS would be a... Sep 27 2007, 02:15 PM helvick Things to bear in mind.
Not all digital cameras... Sep 27 2007, 04:20 PM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (helvick @ Sep 27 2007, 08:20 AM) A... Sep 28 2007, 04:46 AM jamescanvin QUOTE (helvick @ Sep 27 2007, 05:20 PM) I... Sep 28 2007, 02:04 PM nprev Well, here's something for that; not cheap, th... Sep 28 2007, 12:10 AM helvick QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 28 2007, 01:10 AM) Wel... Sep 28 2007, 08:14 AM Juramike This is an absolutely excellent idea.
I'll vo... Sep 28 2007, 04:33 AM djellison I saw 'kit' and thought 'great- I... Sep 28 2007, 07:40 AM djellison The smartphone is a genius idea - it would make an... Sep 28 2007, 11:38 AM AndyG Here's a more-or-less self-explanatory table o... Sep 28 2007, 12:06 PM jamescanvin Great info AndyG.
Looking at some of the other fo... Sep 28 2007, 12:41 PM djellison At that level it's a little bit about luck - b... Sep 28 2007, 12:57 PM ustrax Hey Doug...what do you think of this first approac... Sep 28 2007, 01:43 PM nprev Nice logo, ustrax!
Just a general engineeri... Sep 28 2007, 02:05 PM djellison Payload wouldn't be thermally 'controlled... Sep 28 2007, 02:23 PM nprev QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 28 2007, 07:23 AM)... Sep 28 2007, 03:57 PM JRehling [...] Sep 28 2007, 05:36 PM jamescanvin One more stitching test using the SABLE-3 images. ... Sep 28 2007, 02:38 PM ustrax You know how this guys are Doug...
Seing those ... Sep 28 2007, 02:43 PM djellison Storage, Volume, Mass, Power, Money If you can ... Sep 28 2007, 03:13 PM scalbers Hi - this link has a nice high altitude photo from... Sep 28 2007, 04:51 PM Juramike One possibility might be to put all the batteries ... Sep 28 2007, 04:51 PM djellison Actually - the altitude will be limited by the env... Sep 28 2007, 05:55 PM nprev Good point, Doug. However, ascent velocity is stil... Sep 28 2007, 06:08 PM Astrophil Here's an idea for a future mission: re-enact ... Sep 29 2007, 11:02 AM dvandorn Have y'all thought about where you'd want ... Sep 29 2007, 05:22 AM djellison Actually - the FAA ( and I'm looking up the UK... Sep 29 2007, 11:10 AM djellison Just a bit of fun using Google Sketchup. Never use... Sep 29 2007, 09:52 PM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 29 2007, 01:52 PM)... Sep 29 2007, 10:04 PM djellison I think it just lets you interface with other form... Sep 29 2007, 10:10 PM ngunn I really hope you guys pull this off. Unfortunatel... Sep 30 2007, 07:54 AM remcook Cool project! How much would a weather balloon... Sep 30 2007, 09:30 AM ugordan QUOTE (remcook @ Sep 30 2007, 11:30 AM) I... Sep 30 2007, 09:58 AM remcook By the way, did this link get mentioned?
http://w... Sep 30 2007, 09:43 AM Juramike The twin balloon idea is pretty good. Launching t... Sep 30 2007, 02:50 PM ugordan QUOTE (Juramike @ Sep 30 2007, 04:50 PM) ... Sep 30 2007, 03:11 PM djellison Plus -two of everything to buy (and in this case, ... Sep 30 2007, 03:18 PM nprev QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 30 2007, 08:18 AM)... Sep 30 2007, 06:33 PM dvandorn QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 30 2007, 10:18 AM)... Oct 1 2007, 04:39 AM tedstryk QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 1 2007, 04:37 AM) W... Oct 4 2007, 09:23 PM AndyG Is there an issue with expanded polystyrene at ver... Oct 1 2007, 11:12 AM djellison QUOTE (AndyG @ Oct 1 2007, 12:12 PM) Is t... Oct 1 2007, 12:20 PM djellison Status update :
Proposal :
<2kg payload - on t... Oct 1 2007, 09:43 PM volcanopele I would seriously look at the design of Huygens as... Oct 1 2007, 10:01 PM djellison I was having similar thoughts, how controlled can ... Oct 1 2007, 10:48 PM nprev Weight distribution would also be very important f... Oct 1 2007, 11:59 PM djellison The problem isn't a million miles from MER ter... Oct 2 2007, 06:25 AM jamescanvin I don't think controlling the rotation is goin... Oct 2 2007, 09:45 AM djellison Discovered the FM transmitter may be a no-no in th... Oct 2 2007, 11:11 AM ngunn Doug - I wanted to reply to your paragraph about o... Oct 2 2007, 11:15 AM djellison For stereo to work - you either have to have a ver... Oct 2 2007, 11:27 AM JRehling [...] Oct 2 2007, 05:40 PM ngunn QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 2 2007, 06:40 PM) W... Oct 2 2007, 08:04 PM ngunn OK this is getting off topic and I won't keep ... Oct 2 2007, 11:56 AM AndyG Thirty Thousand Metres Via A Plastic Bag
The abo... Oct 2 2007, 12:47 PM djellison The envelope itself is arguably the easy part. Bu... Oct 2 2007, 12:55 PM jamescanvin OK a few simulations of camera coverage.
Two came... Oct 2 2007, 02:19 PM djellison Now that's cunning - and even though the data ... Oct 2 2007, 02:44 PM jamescanvin Your wish is my command...
In each of these I... Oct 2 2007, 05:22 PM jamescanvin 4) Three cameras all in landscape with elevations ... Oct 2 2007, 05:43 PM djellison Well - I've just ordered three very VERY cheap... Oct 2 2007, 08:31 PM helvick Stunning work with those coverage sims James.
Th... Oct 2 2007, 09:46 PM djellison Well - I think with these cheap cameras I've g... Oct 2 2007, 10:22 PM JRehling [...] Oct 3 2007, 06:02 AM AndyG QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 2 2007, 11:22 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 08:57 AM ElkGroveDan If Helvick can't come up with another unit, I ... Oct 2 2007, 11:12 PM djellison Someone else can drown their cameras intentionally... Oct 3 2007, 07:00 AM djellison A 90p thermistor's great...BUT....you need som... Oct 3 2007, 09:15 AM JRehling [...] Oct 3 2007, 05:59 PM centsworth_II QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 3 2007, 01:59 PM) I... Oct 4 2007, 10:31 PM AndyG Monitoring various sensors sounds exactly like a m... Oct 3 2007, 10:02 AM volcanopele Someone suggested donating a Treo. There might be... Oct 4 2007, 10:37 PM helvick Re Treo's and other potential offerings. They ... Oct 5 2007, 12:13 AM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (helvick @ Oct 4 2007, 04:13 PM) Re... Oct 5 2007, 04:12 AM Greg Hullender QUOTE (helvick @ Oct 4 2007, 05:13 PM) . ... Oct 5 2007, 11:51 PM volcanopele It is sad because I refuse to use a Windows Mobile... Oct 5 2007, 12:30 AM djellison Will it work in the UK do you think? Quad/Tri band... Oct 5 2007, 08:27 AM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 5 2007, 12:27 AM) ... Oct 5 2007, 03:03 PM djellison Got my three very very cheap cameras and the polys... Oct 5 2007, 04:38 PM djellison Well - my idea of a front-door peep hole lens to g... Oct 5 2007, 09:06 PM lyford I have nothing to offer this project except encour... Oct 6 2007, 03:24 AM djellison These crap 3 megapixel cameras will happily record... Oct 6 2007, 11:00 AM JRehling [...] Oct 6 2007, 07:10 PM djellison QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 6 2007, 08:10 PM) I... Oct 6 2007, 09:33 PM paxdan I have been following this thread pretty closely. ... Oct 6 2007, 11:07 AM djellison Their wiki doesn't have many details on the ti... Oct 6 2007, 02:29 PM DEChengst This sounds pretty exciting In my mind this can ... Oct 8 2007, 05:19 PM djellison QUOTE (DEChengst @ Oct 8 2007, 06:19 PM) ... Oct 8 2007, 08:22 PM nprev Really! What kind of sensor is used to detect ... Oct 9 2007, 03:27 AM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 8 2007, 07:27 PM) Real... Oct 9 2007, 04:29 AM JRehling [...] Oct 9 2007, 05:34 AM djellison The 144.8 Mhz FM APRS kit arrived. I need to get ... Oct 12 2007, 12:17 AM |
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