High altitude balloon payload, from Sable-3 discussion |
High altitude balloon payload, from Sable-3 discussion |
 Sep 26 2007, 11:16 PM
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http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...20&start=20
We began talkin about a UMSF balloon - and who know what might happen if enough people think about something hard enough, thoroughly enough and long enough. How's about this as a starting point. http://vpizza.org/~jmeehan/balloon/ with http://www.chem.hawaii.edu/uham/part101.html as an important regulatory start point (I'm going to look up the UK regs for this as well) http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cuspaceflight/nova1launch.html is also very impressive - all done in the UK This http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/...video_podc.html is particularly impressive - I like the multiple-cameras slant. Anyway - thought I'd get a thread going - this is an idea I like too much to let it gather dust in a corner - the one thing that I think would be nice to achieve is self-portraiture of some sort - think Beagle 2's WAM etc....perhaps in a corner of the FOV of one of/the imaging system. What sort of limit's should we set ourselves? 1kg 10x10x20cm? (sort of 2U Cubesat-on-a-diet budget) Doug |
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Oct 1 2007, 04:37 AM
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Well... considering the fact that Voyagers 1 and 2 were originally to be Mariners (though I have no idea if they would have been Mariners 11 and 12 or not), we *almost* got a second successful pair-launch out of the program!
-the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Oct 4 2007, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 1 2007, 04:37 AM)  Well... considering the fact that Voyagers 1 and 2 were originally to be Mariners (though I have no idea if they would have been Mariners 11 and 12 or not), we *almost* got a second successful pair-launch out of the program! -the other Doug Well, really we did. The mission was approved and in many official documents was referred to as Mariner Jupiter-Saturn. It simply underwent a name change. -------------------- |
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djellison High altitude balloon payload Sep 26 2007, 11:16 PM
helvick I'm definitely on board for this but I'm i... Sep 27 2007, 06:32 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (helvick @ Sep 27 2007, 01:32 AM) I... Sep 27 2007, 03:26 PM Paolo Amoroso QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 27 2007, 01:16 AM)... Sep 27 2007, 09:39 AM djellison That's what WAM means - Wide Angle Mirror - yo... Sep 27 2007, 10:06 AM Paolo Amoroso QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 27 2007, 12:06 PM)... Sep 27 2007, 01:34 PM djellison A starter for 10:
Powershot A570IS (IS would be a... Sep 27 2007, 02:15 PM helvick Things to bear in mind.
Not all digital cameras... Sep 27 2007, 04:20 PM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (helvick @ Sep 27 2007, 08:20 AM) A... Sep 28 2007, 04:46 AM jamescanvin QUOTE (helvick @ Sep 27 2007, 05:20 PM) I... Sep 28 2007, 02:04 PM nprev Well, here's something for that; not cheap, th... Sep 28 2007, 12:10 AM helvick QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 28 2007, 01:10 AM) Wel... Sep 28 2007, 08:14 AM Juramike This is an absolutely excellent idea.
I'll vo... Sep 28 2007, 04:33 AM djellison I saw 'kit' and thought 'great- I... Sep 28 2007, 07:40 AM djellison The smartphone is a genius idea - it would make an... Sep 28 2007, 11:38 AM AndyG Here's a more-or-less self-explanatory table o... Sep 28 2007, 12:06 PM jamescanvin Great info AndyG.
Looking at some of the other fo... Sep 28 2007, 12:41 PM djellison At that level it's a little bit about luck - b... Sep 28 2007, 12:57 PM ustrax Hey Doug...what do you think of this first approac... Sep 28 2007, 01:43 PM nprev Nice logo, ustrax!
Just a general engineeri... Sep 28 2007, 02:05 PM djellison Payload wouldn't be thermally 'controlled... Sep 28 2007, 02:23 PM nprev QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 28 2007, 07:23 AM)... Sep 28 2007, 03:57 PM JRehling [...] Sep 28 2007, 05:36 PM jamescanvin One more stitching test using the SABLE-3 images. ... Sep 28 2007, 02:38 PM ustrax You know how this guys are Doug...
Seing those ... Sep 28 2007, 02:43 PM djellison Storage, Volume, Mass, Power, Money If you can ... Sep 28 2007, 03:13 PM scalbers Hi - this link has a nice high altitude photo from... Sep 28 2007, 04:51 PM Juramike One possibility might be to put all the batteries ... Sep 28 2007, 04:51 PM djellison Actually - the altitude will be limited by the env... Sep 28 2007, 05:55 PM nprev Good point, Doug. However, ascent velocity is stil... Sep 28 2007, 06:08 PM Astrophil Here's an idea for a future mission: re-enact ... Sep 29 2007, 11:02 AM dvandorn Have y'all thought about where you'd want ... Sep 29 2007, 05:22 AM djellison Actually - the FAA ( and I'm looking up the UK... Sep 29 2007, 11:10 AM djellison Just a bit of fun using Google Sketchup. Never use... Sep 29 2007, 09:52 PM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 29 2007, 01:52 PM)... Sep 29 2007, 10:04 PM djellison I think it just lets you interface with other form... Sep 29 2007, 10:10 PM ngunn I really hope you guys pull this off. Unfortunatel... Sep 30 2007, 07:54 AM remcook Cool project! How much would a weather balloon... Sep 30 2007, 09:30 AM ugordan QUOTE (remcook @ Sep 30 2007, 11:30 AM) I... Sep 30 2007, 09:58 AM remcook By the way, did this link get mentioned?
http://w... Sep 30 2007, 09:43 AM Juramike The twin balloon idea is pretty good. Launching t... Sep 30 2007, 02:50 PM ugordan QUOTE (Juramike @ Sep 30 2007, 04:50 PM) ... Sep 30 2007, 03:11 PM djellison Plus -two of everything to buy (and in this case, ... Sep 30 2007, 03:18 PM nprev QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 30 2007, 08:18 AM)... Sep 30 2007, 06:33 PM dvandorn QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 30 2007, 10:18 AM)... Oct 1 2007, 04:39 AM ugordan QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 1 2007, 06:37 AM) W... Oct 1 2007, 08:27 AM AndyG Is there an issue with expanded polystyrene at ver... Oct 1 2007, 11:12 AM djellison QUOTE (AndyG @ Oct 1 2007, 12:12 PM) Is t... Oct 1 2007, 12:20 PM djellison Status update :
Proposal :
<2kg payload - on t... Oct 1 2007, 09:43 PM volcanopele I would seriously look at the design of Huygens as... Oct 1 2007, 10:01 PM djellison I was having similar thoughts, how controlled can ... Oct 1 2007, 10:48 PM nprev Weight distribution would also be very important f... Oct 1 2007, 11:59 PM djellison The problem isn't a million miles from MER ter... Oct 2 2007, 06:25 AM jamescanvin I don't think controlling the rotation is goin... Oct 2 2007, 09:45 AM djellison Discovered the FM transmitter may be a no-no in th... Oct 2 2007, 11:11 AM ngunn Doug - I wanted to reply to your paragraph about o... Oct 2 2007, 11:15 AM djellison For stereo to work - you either have to have a ver... Oct 2 2007, 11:27 AM JRehling [...] Oct 2 2007, 05:40 PM ngunn QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 2 2007, 06:40 PM) W... Oct 2 2007, 08:04 PM ngunn OK this is getting off topic and I won't keep ... Oct 2 2007, 11:56 AM AndyG Thirty Thousand Metres Via A Plastic Bag
The abo... Oct 2 2007, 12:47 PM djellison The envelope itself is arguably the easy part. Bu... Oct 2 2007, 12:55 PM jamescanvin OK a few simulations of camera coverage.
Two came... Oct 2 2007, 02:19 PM djellison Now that's cunning - and even though the data ... Oct 2 2007, 02:44 PM jamescanvin Your wish is my command...
In each of these I... Oct 2 2007, 05:22 PM jamescanvin 4) Three cameras all in landscape with elevations ... Oct 2 2007, 05:43 PM djellison Well - I've just ordered three very VERY cheap... Oct 2 2007, 08:31 PM helvick Stunning work with those coverage sims James.
Th... Oct 2 2007, 09:46 PM djellison Well - I think with these cheap cameras I've g... Oct 2 2007, 10:22 PM JRehling [...] Oct 3 2007, 06:02 AM AndyG QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 2 2007, 11:22 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 08:57 AM ElkGroveDan If Helvick can't come up with another unit, I ... Oct 2 2007, 11:12 PM djellison Someone else can drown their cameras intentionally... Oct 3 2007, 07:00 AM djellison A 90p thermistor's great...BUT....you need som... Oct 3 2007, 09:15 AM JRehling [...] Oct 3 2007, 05:59 PM centsworth_II QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 3 2007, 01:59 PM) I... Oct 4 2007, 10:31 PM AndyG Monitoring various sensors sounds exactly like a m... Oct 3 2007, 10:02 AM volcanopele Someone suggested donating a Treo. There might be... Oct 4 2007, 10:37 PM helvick Re Treo's and other potential offerings. They ... Oct 5 2007, 12:13 AM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (helvick @ Oct 4 2007, 04:13 PM) Re... Oct 5 2007, 04:12 AM Greg Hullender QUOTE (helvick @ Oct 4 2007, 05:13 PM) . ... Oct 5 2007, 11:51 PM volcanopele It is sad because I refuse to use a Windows Mobile... Oct 5 2007, 12:30 AM djellison Will it work in the UK do you think? Quad/Tri band... Oct 5 2007, 08:27 AM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 5 2007, 12:27 AM) ... Oct 5 2007, 03:03 PM djellison Got my three very very cheap cameras and the polys... Oct 5 2007, 04:38 PM djellison Well - my idea of a front-door peep hole lens to g... Oct 5 2007, 09:06 PM lyford I have nothing to offer this project except encour... Oct 6 2007, 03:24 AM djellison These crap 3 megapixel cameras will happily record... Oct 6 2007, 11:00 AM JRehling [...] Oct 6 2007, 07:10 PM djellison QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 6 2007, 08:10 PM) I... Oct 6 2007, 09:33 PM paxdan I have been following this thread pretty closely. ... Oct 6 2007, 11:07 AM djellison Their wiki doesn't have many details on the ti... Oct 6 2007, 02:29 PM DEChengst This sounds pretty exciting In my mind this can ... Oct 8 2007, 05:19 PM djellison QUOTE (DEChengst @ Oct 8 2007, 06:19 PM) ... Oct 8 2007, 08:22 PM nprev Really! What kind of sensor is used to detect ... Oct 9 2007, 03:27 AM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 8 2007, 07:27 PM) Real... Oct 9 2007, 04:29 AM JRehling [...] Oct 9 2007, 05:34 AM djellison The 144.8 Mhz FM APRS kit arrived. I need to get ... Oct 12 2007, 12:17 AM |
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