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GregM
post Apr 21 2005, 11:26 PM
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edstrick
post May 23 2005, 09:49 AM
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I don't know any links, the Pioneer team never did a very good job of publicising their pictures other than the 3 versions of the NASA SP Pioneer book. They never did any real post processing either, after making final versions of most of the pics. I always though there was a lot more they could have done, starting with putting the raw and final versions of the pics on digital tape at the NSSDC.

I always found most interesting that "boiling porridge" of features in the Pioneer 11 pics of Jupiter's polar regions, something we have never seen since nearly as well.
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QUOTE (edstrick @ May 23 2005, 01:49 AM)
I don't know any links, the Pioneer team never did a very good job of publicising their pictures other than the 3 versions of the NASA SP Pioneer book. 

That book is availabe online here. Chapter 7 has a good description of the imaging process, including comparing raw and corrected pics.

Here's a side by side of the best I could find of Pioneer with a "typical" Voyager shot:
(Apologies to those without broadband or who have seen these before. Please let me know if these images are too large or load too slowly and I will edit them to be links only.)

Pioneer 11 :


Voyager 1 and 2:


Pioneer 11 capture the first detail from the polar view:


Pioneer 11 even caught IO!


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- GregM   Reprocessing Historical Images   Apr 21 2005, 11:26 PM
- - Gsnorgathon   I have to admit I'm a real sucker for those ...   Apr 22 2005, 08:05 AM
- - OWW   Cool Mariner 4/6/7 ( and more ) stuff: http://memb...   Apr 22 2005, 08:16 AM
- - 4th rock from the sun   The problem is having the original datasets for th...   Apr 22 2005, 12:14 PM
|- - GregM   .   Apr 22 2005, 04:01 PM
|- - tedstryk   Don Mitchell has gotten ahold of the original Vene...   Apr 22 2005, 04:24 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (GregM @ Apr 22 2005, 04:01 PM)QUOTE (4...   Apr 22 2005, 06:55 PM
|- - tedstryk   In the case of the Venera data, that is a Russian ...   Apr 22 2005, 08:02 PM
- - deglr6328   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 22 2005, 08:02 PM)In th...   Apr 22 2005, 11:56 PM
|- - tedstryk   I have not come across original Pioneer image data...   Apr 23 2005, 03:04 AM
|- - GregM   .   Apr 23 2005, 04:28 AM
- - edstrick   The digital data for the final versions of <mos...   Apr 23 2005, 09:25 AM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   QUOTE ... Note that the mariner 4 images were tak...   Apr 25 2005, 11:29 PM
- - edstrick   Mariner 6 and 7 returned two "primary" i...   Apr 23 2005, 09:50 AM
|- - tedstryk   The reason so much of Mariner 6/7 imagery was sent...   Apr 23 2005, 12:24 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Somewhere in my box of space slides from the 1970s...   Apr 23 2005, 12:37 PM
||- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 23 2005, 12:37 PM)Somew...   Apr 23 2005, 12:49 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   Yup, that's the chappie! And my memory is...   Apr 23 2005, 09:13 PM
|- - peter59   QUOTE (edstrick @ Apr 23 2005, 09:50 AM)Marin...   Apr 24 2005, 06:39 AM
- - edstrick   Mariner Mars 1971 was to be a two spacecraft missi...   Apr 23 2005, 10:14 AM
- - deglr6328   I am so consistently dumbfounded at the amazing de...   Apr 23 2005, 05:50 PM
- - edstrick   To chase down the history and existance of the Pio...   Apr 23 2005, 08:28 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (edstrick @ Apr 23 2005, 08:28 PM)To ch...   Apr 24 2005, 03:08 AM
- - TheChemist   peter59, thanks for providing the link to your won...   Apr 24 2005, 08:24 AM
- - edstrick   One annoying problem with the radiometrically corr...   Apr 24 2005, 09:39 AM
|- - GregM   .   Apr 27 2005, 01:55 AM
- - edstrick   GregM and 4'th Rock are certainly on the right...   Apr 27 2005, 10:49 AM
|- - tedstryk   Speaking of historical images, this is some work I...   May 9 2005, 04:16 AM
- - Phil Stooke   It's show and tell time.. I guess. Here's...   May 11 2005, 03:32 AM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   This is extremely impressive, IMHO especially pete...   May 12 2005, 10:57 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ May 12 2005, 10:57 PM)...   May 14 2005, 09:42 PM
|- - GregM   .   May 17 2005, 03:27 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (GregM @ May 16 2005, 10:27 PM)<snip...   May 17 2005, 06:29 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (GregM @ May 16 2005, 08:27 PM)That...   May 17 2005, 03:24 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I promised earlier that I would post something fro...   May 17 2005, 01:26 PM
|- - tedstryk   Phil, I am nowhere near trumping you. It will be ...   May 17 2005, 07:38 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Phil: Very, very nice! Now, the $64,000...   May 17 2005, 07:39 PM
||- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 17 2005, 02:39 PM)Phil:...   May 17 2005, 08:01 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 17 2005, 08:26 AM)I ...   May 17 2005, 07:41 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   If I remember correctly, Voyager 2 also got some b...   May 17 2005, 06:32 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The detail looks west and north, and the full pan ...   May 17 2005, 08:05 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Thanks, guys!   May 17 2005, 09:02 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 17 2005, 08:05 PM)Th...   May 17 2005, 11:27 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I am attaching a set of maps which portray the Sur...   May 18 2005, 01:37 PM
|- - chris   Very nice, Phil. Chris   May 18 2005, 02:41 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Fascinating!   May 18 2005, 08:43 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 18 2005, 08:43 PM)Fasci...   May 22 2005, 07:49 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 22 2005, 07:49 PM)Does ...   May 22 2005, 11:23 PM
|- - tedstryk   If you have these numbers in a simple text file I...   May 23 2005, 12:06 AM
|- - GregM   .   May 23 2005, 02:16 AM
- - Phil Stooke   I didn't do the geometric correction! T...   May 23 2005, 03:09 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   The Surveyor hemispherical panorama domes (there *...   May 23 2005, 10:23 AM
- - edstrick   A number of postings back, somebody was "diss...   May 23 2005, 04:58 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (edstrick @ May 22 2005, 11:58 PM)A num...   May 23 2005, 06:44 AM
- - edstrick   I don't know any links, the Pioneer team never...   May 23 2005, 09:49 AM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (edstrick @ May 23 2005, 01:49 AM)I don...   May 23 2005, 03:48 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   I made a preliminary page containing several Pione...   May 23 2005, 08:26 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   QUOTE (lyford @ May 23 2005, 04:48 PM)That bo...   May 23 2005, 09:41 PM
- - Phil Stooke   A few more words about the Surveyor panoramas. Th...   May 23 2005, 10:07 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 23 2005, 05:07 PM)A ...   May 24 2005, 06:58 AM
- - edstrick   The Surveyor images were recorded on tape... ANALO...   May 24 2005, 10:55 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (edstrick @ May 24 2005, 10:55 AM)The S...   May 24 2005, 11:45 AM
- - djellison   Shouldnt someone like the Planetary Society or sim...   May 24 2005, 11:38 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Ted said: Actually, that project is still underwa...   May 24 2005, 01:12 PM
- - Phil Stooke   ...And I ought to add something about Russian effo...   May 24 2005, 01:24 PM
|- - tedstryk   Yeah, Voyager was the last to have the dots. Vidi...   May 24 2005, 02:08 PM
- - Decepticon   In the Pionner images of Jupiters moons Ganymede l...   May 25 2005, 07:24 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Decepticon @ May 25 2005, 07:24 PM)In ...   May 25 2005, 08:03 PM
- - Decepticon   Great work! ^   May 25 2005, 09:14 PM
- - Decepticon   If remember right, one of the Pionners was to take...   May 26 2005, 12:39 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Decepticon @ May 26 2005, 12:39 AM)I r...   May 26 2005, 12:57 AM
- - edstrick   The Pioneer Jupiter missions were done by direct c...   May 26 2005, 08:07 AM
- - Decepticon   What a shock it would have been if those images ma...   May 26 2005, 01:21 PM
|- - tedstryk   Another project I am working on is trying to work ...   May 27 2005, 02:01 PM
|- - chris   The thing that always amazes me about the Venera l...   May 27 2005, 03:10 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   The estimable Don Davis has also rectified Venera ...   May 27 2005, 04:04 PM
||- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 27 2005, 04:04 PM)The e...   May 27 2005, 04:39 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 27 2005, 07:01 AM)Anoth...   May 30 2005, 05:55 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (JRehling @ May 30 2005, 05:55 PM)The o...   Jun 1 2005, 02:53 AM
- - Decepticon   WOW! That is amazing!   May 30 2005, 08:40 PM
- - 4th rock from the sun   Interesting images ! Very nice! But those ...   May 30 2005, 09:50 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ May 30 2005, 0...   May 30 2005, 10:31 PM
||- - paxdan   if the hills are real does this in any way help pi...   May 30 2005, 11:48 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ May 30 2005, 0...   May 31 2005, 02:07 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Paxdan - no, it does not help locate the landing s...   May 31 2005, 12:08 AM
- - GregM   .   May 31 2005, 01:25 AM
- - Phil Stooke   I have finally finished the Surveyor 5 pan. Here ...   May 31 2005, 08:46 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Phil: Is there anything *interesting* on the hori...   May 31 2005, 09:04 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Unfortunately there is no feature on the horizon w...   May 31 2005, 09:41 PM
- - tedstryk   http://www.mentallandscape.com/V_Venus.htm Check ...   Jun 1 2005, 11:45 AM
|- - DDAVIS   Here is a perspective drawing I made in support of...   Jun 1 2005, 04:26 PM
|- - tedstryk   I have created a new Venera page. http://pages.pr...   Jun 2 2005, 03:34 AM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jun 2 2005, 04:34 AM)I have...   Jun 2 2005, 04:22 PM
|- - GregM   .   Jun 3 2005, 02:51 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (GregM @ Jun 3 2005, 02:51 AM)I think y...   Jun 3 2005, 02:54 AM
- - Decepticon   tedstryk Great work! Your web-page is in my bo...   Jun 2 2005, 12:11 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Jupiter is highly variable with time. The change i...   Jun 2 2005, 02:22 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jun 2 2005, 01:11 PM)How ...   Jun 2 2005, 04:34 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Another Surveyor 5 scene. This goes out to the ho...   Jun 2 2005, 07:56 PM
- - Decepticon   Thanks for the links! It really did change...   Jun 2 2005, 08:58 PM
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