Kodak moments at Pluto: Help requested |
Kodak moments at Pluto: Help requested |
Apr 3 2008, 09:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 717 Joined: 3-December 04 From: Boulder, Colorado, USA Member No.: 117 |
Hi folks-
We are deep in the process of planning the Pluto encounter (we're doing it now while all the essential people are still on the payroll!), and following the great success of our Jupiter "Kodak moment" program (thanks Hendric!), we are once again soliciting help from UMSF in planning scenic imaging of the Pluto system. Unlike at Jupiter, the only time when bodies in the Pluto system occult each other is within an hour of closest approach, when we'll be too busy for purely scenic imaging, but there may be interesting alignments or other opportunities at other times. To help find these opportunities, Henry Throop has kindly made available his New Horizons Geometry Visualizer, NHGV, which is the science team's prime geometry planning tool. It's at http://soc.boulder.swri.edu/nhgv . The tool shows the view of selected targets from the spacecraft at any time during the encounter. Below is some more detailed information from Henry. More information on the New Horizons instrument capabilities is available here. We'd like inputs by early June if possible- thanks in advance! John. QUOTE I have developed an on-line, graphical tool for planning and visualizing New Horizons observations. This is a web-based, graphical tool which uses SPICE to plot the position of bodies in the sky, and as they pass through the NH FOVs. The program is online at http://soc.boulder.swri.edu/nhgv . Features of NHGV (New Horizons Geometry Visualizer) include: * Integration with NAIF/SPICE, allowing for accurate positions and observing geometries for planets, satellites, and spacecraft * Integration with HD and Tycho-2 star catalogs, including access to catalog information such as positions, magnitudes, and stellar types * Light-time corrections for all computations * FOVs of all New Horizons remote sensing instruments * Wireframe images showing position grids and surface lighting * Albedo and surface composition maps * Display of Jovian aurora and satelite flux footprints * Lookup of spacecraft orientation and pointing from SPICE C-Kernels * Output of all data in graphical and table format * Flexible input and output coordinates, including both J2000 celestial and ecliptic systems * Cartesian or spherical projection of sky coordinates. * Simple web interface * Observations for a single time or a range of times * Rapid generation of tables of geometric parameters (distance, phase angle, etc.) over a time interval It can be thought of along the same lines as Dave Seal's DIGIT or Mark Showalter's Jupiter Viewer, although it has advantages over both (e.g., full access to star catalogs; NH FOV's; web-based; ecliptic coordinates; simple one-page interface). Although it was written for NH, it's really a much more general tool than that. Kernels are currently included for Rosetta, Messenger and Cassini, in addition to NH. It's used by the NH Science Team for planning future observations, and analyzing previous observations. This is essentially an internal tool that is being released externally on a trial basis, for use in planning potential NH observations. Please let me know of any significant problems. Extensive on-line documentation, examples, and screenshots are available at http://soc.boulder.swri.edu/nhgv/gv_info.php . Have fun! Henry Throop Southwest Research Institute Boulder, CO throop at boulder.swri.edu |
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Apr 4 2008, 05:28 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14448 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I don't think there's any way to do that - all the instruments are essentially bolted to the vehicle and point in a similar direction.
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Apr 5 2008, 11:57 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 532 Joined: 19-February 05 Member No.: 173 |
I don't think there's any way to do that - all the instruments are essentially bolted to the vehicle and point in a similar direction. Doug-- We thought about exactly this in 2001 when the mission was proposed. Various schemes for cameras that showed part of the s/c were considered, but in the end, practicalities intruded and this never materialized. (As an aside I suggest to the MSL team last year that they carry a mirror around that they could deploy to take rover self portraits at various locales.) Regardless, for NH, the imagers are all body mounted and none have s/c in their FOVs, which is the right way to do the science mission, public engagement aside. -Alan |
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Apr 5 2008, 08:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 22-April 05 Member No.: 351 |
Various schemes for cameras that showed part of the s/c were considered, but in the end, practicalities intruded and this never materialized. (As an aside I suggest to the MSL team last year that they carry a mirror around that they could deploy to take rover self portraits at various locales.) Now that cameras of the capabilities of the MER navigation cameras are lightweight and (I think) pretty cheap, I'd love to see one put at the end of solar panel or other boom to look back at the spacecraft purely for public relations purposes. This would require the project to be willing to add a piece of equipment that doesn't have the same testing requirements as the essential parts of the craft -- i.e., give it your best shot, but it's not a mission requirement. As it is, I'm delighted that Juno has a camera for public relations, even though it won't see any part of the spacecraft. -------------------- |
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Apr 6 2008, 04:24 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8789 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
This would require the project to be willing to add a piece of equipment that doesn't have the same testing requirements as the essential parts of the craft -- i.e., give it your best shot, but it's not a mission requirement. I'd love to see that too, but gotta urge caution with respect to requirement definition. If it doesn't have to work & doesn't have a significant mass budget impact, that's all well & good. You'd still have to test it pretty thoroughly at the system level to be certain that it doesn't have a possible failure mode that could take out other mission-critical capabilities, though (power, databus, etc.); what a fiasco that would be! -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Apr 6 2008, 05:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 22-April 05 Member No.: 351 |
You'd still have to test it pretty thoroughly at the system level to be certain that it doesn't have a possible failure mode that could take out other mission-critical capabilities, though (power, databus, etc.); what a fiasco that would be! Which is why I don't think we'll ever see cameras that can view the spacecraft. Each one introduces a failure mode. As I said, I am just glad that Juno has a camera, although we'll see if it survives the inevitable descope/money crunch that seems to occur in all significant technology designs/development. -------------------- |
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Apr 6 2008, 06:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2547 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
Which is why I don't think we'll ever see cameras that can view the spacecraft. Each one introduces a failure mode. If properly designed, they needn't introduce a failure mode. But they do cost resources, and pretty pictures alone aren't usually considered worth it. But there are sound engineering reasons to want to view parts of the spacecraft (to verify deployments, for example) and these may end up flying if the need is judged sufficient. An example would be the RocketCams on various launch vehicles. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Apr 6 2008, 07:49 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8789 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
If properly designed, they needn't introduce a failure mode. Unfortunately, even if properly designed, 'unknown unknowns' can crop up during follow-on integration testing in most unwelcome and unexpected ways. Nobody knows of them until extremely rigorous and expensive effort has occurred, and sometimes this can't all be completed until after launch for planetary missions. All I'm saying here is that the risk had better be worth the reward. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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