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post Jan 8 2007, 07:15 PM
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I have just watched the BBC's report on the newly created 3D map of dark matter using Hubble data; and it made my heart sink.

I applaud the BBC for giving airtime to such discoveries, but for such a respected organisation their research was awful.

It's no wonder the vast majority of people are either bewildered or disinterested the the universe as a whole when the facts they are given are completely wrong.

It's a shame that tonight 60 million or so people in the UK and many other people around the world were told Hubble shone a beam of light out into the depths of the universe and studied how it was bent by the gravity of dark matter billions of light years away!

And this was a report from the BBCs science correspondant!

I remain downhearted that perhaps the most important story of the week was reported in such a shoddy manner.

Does anyone else feel space is being let down by TV coverage?


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post Jan 5 2008, 06:23 PM
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I'm waiting to see what will happen if the potential Martian asteroid impact becomes likely enough for the mass media to get excited about. The sheer torrent of stupidity would be entertaining indeed...and depressing.

BTW, here in LA on the CBS AM radio news station I keep hearing these annoying commercials for some outfit called the "International Star Registry" that purports to name a star for your friend or loved one for a nominal fee (fifty bucks, I think). I know that this is complete @#$%, but of course the general public doesn't. IIRC, this group or another got sued by (I think) Sky & Telescope, and the plantiffs lost!

Still think that the IAU should get into that business and generate official star names for a nominal fee, then use the proceeds for astronomy-related grants, scholarships, etc. Much better than lining the pockets of these bloody con-artists.


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post Apr 24 2008, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 5 2008, 07:23 PM) *
BTW, here in LA on the CBS AM radio news station I keep hearing these annoying commercials for some outfit called the "International Star Registry" that purports to name a star for your friend or loved one for a nominal fee (fifty bucks, I think). I know that this is complete @#$%, but of course the general public doesn't. IIRC, this group or another got sued by (I think) Sky & Telescope, and the plantiffs lost!


Resurrecting an old topic, I know, but if anyone wants to read an interesting debate on the star-naming issue, this week's CARNIVAL OF SPACE has two rather opposing viewpoints... wink.gif


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post Apr 24 2008, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 24 2008, 12:24 PM) *
Resurrecting an old topic, I know, but if anyone wants to read an interesting debate on the star-naming issue, this week's CARNIVAL OF SPACE has two rather opposing viewpoints... wink.gif


I find it hard to imagine that anyone could believe they actually "own" a star. Aren't there international agreements in which countries reject any concept of "claiming" celestial objects such as the moon, planets, etc.? One would think anyone "naming" a star would understand that the act is symbolic. How can someone own something no human being can even reach and can only view from afar? We don't even know that the names currently being used will still be in use by our descendants 100 or more years from now. I do agree that the companies charging people for this are predatory, as anyone can use computer software to create their own certificate and print it out, which is really the only thing recipients are getting.

Since there are funding issues regarding space exploration, how about considering the idea of universities and agencies like NASA or the ESA selling people the right to symbolically name a star with the proceeds going towards research, exploration, etc. as another person in this thread suggested? Universities and agencies could join to create a single large database to coordinate such an effort. Donors could choose the projects they want to support (for example, funding of a specific telescope or mission). At least purchasers would know that what they are really doing is making a contribution towards the advancement of astronomical research and exploration as opposed to handing over money to charlatans.
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- As old as Voyager   Inaccuracy in reporting astronomy and science   Jan 8 2007, 07:15 PM
- - Ames   Yes I do! Don't get me started... Only ...   Jan 8 2007, 09:09 PM
- - Sunspot   I saw that report too, without a doubt the worst p...   Jan 8 2007, 10:37 PM
- - Stu   Absolutely appalling and - after yesterday's ...   Jan 8 2007, 10:51 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   The thing that worries me is that there must be ma...   Jan 8 2007, 11:10 PM
||- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 8 2007, 11:10 PM) T...   Jan 9 2007, 01:39 AM
||- - ugordan   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 9 2007, 12:10 AM) T...   Jan 9 2007, 10:07 AM
||- - 4th rock from the sun   It's not just the news that are incorrect and ...   Jan 9 2007, 10:30 AM
|- - ynyralmaen   QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 8 2007, 11:51 PM) Unbeli...   Jan 9 2007, 12:01 AM
- - Sunspot   Quite a contrast the BBC online News report about ...   Jan 8 2007, 11:49 PM
- - nprev   Wow. I have to say that as an American I'm p...   Jan 9 2007, 01:48 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 9 2007, 02:48 AM) Wow....   Jan 9 2007, 02:21 AM
|- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (climber @ Jan 9 2007, 03:21 AM) We...   Jan 9 2007, 09:48 AM
- - TheChemist   My latest Sunday newspaper included as a gift a Di...   Jan 9 2007, 12:59 PM
- - ngunn   Yes I saw that ridiculous dark matter report on BB...   Jan 9 2007, 01:32 PM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 9 2007, 01:32 PM) Yes ...   Jan 9 2007, 03:50 PM
||- - ngunn   QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 9 2007, 03:50 PM) Yep. I...   Jan 9 2007, 04:31 PM
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|- - Stu   QUOTE (AndyG @ Jan 10 2007, 08:55 AM) I r...   Jan 10 2007, 09:12 AM
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