Mars 3 (Various Topics Merged) |
Mars 3 (Various Topics Merged) |
Dec 29 2004, 10:36 PM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
On my website sometime back, I added a page on the image fragment sent back by the Mars-3 Lander. I released serveral versions, including the best quality processing using othodox techniques I would use on other images plus colorization here:
http://pages.preferred.com/%7Etedstryk/fragmentc.jpg However, I released another image, which I called a "What if" image. This image can be seen here http://pages.preferred.com/%7Etedstryk/m3s5b.jpg It was produced via extreme processing of the original data to make a Mars-like scene, but I made it clear on my website it was only a speculative image. I strongly doubt if the raw data even shows Mars at all - it could be all noise. But since this mode of processing looked strangely Viking-like, I figured I would put it on the web. I was warned by several, who said that while fun, some kooks might take it seriously. My response was that I really don't care what kooks think. Then I noticed this web page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_2 They used the overprocessed image. I feel like it is being presented as a true photograph. This is of concern. -------------------- |
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Jun 7 2008, 02:39 PM
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Conspiracy theorists are and will always be a lost case. Not only because they're always wrong, but because they don't understand engineering. Now we know a lot of technical information about Mars 2/3 landers, that they have a simpler design than Vikings (Ballistic entry+parachute+solid engines+protective foam) and it indeed works. It only needs to be improved. A good starting point for all organizations and agencies that want to land a probe on Mars.
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Jun 7 2008, 03:02 PM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
Conspiracy theorists are and will always be a lost case. Not only because they're always wrong, but because they don't understand engineering. Now we know a lot of technical information about Mars 2/3 landers, that they have a simpler design than Vikings (Ballistic entry+parachute+solid engines+protective foam) and it indeed works. It only needs to be improved. A good starting point for all organizations and agencies that want to land a probe on Mars. Well, the Mars-2 and Mars-3 landers are separate cases. Mars-2 was planned using innacurate data about the atmosphere, leading to a suicide trajectory. The only way we will ever know what happened to Mars-3 is the very remote chance that something is recovered off the transmission tapes or the more likely chance that orbital imaging picks it up and gives clues to what might have happened. In the case of Mars-3, the Soviet scientists did try to process the tapes to pull out a signal beyond the time of loss of contact (this worked for Venera-7), but with no luck. I still would love to give modern equipment a crack at it. They indeed had a simpler landing technique. Also, the Vikings are the only planetary landers to have been placed into orbit until an opportune time, after the sites had been surveyed and atmospheric conditions were checked out. A very interesting thing is the Mars'96 penatrator design, which takes the hard lander idea to a new level. The MetNet landers are basically Mars-96 penetrators with improved instruments, so that design isn't dead. The small station design was never built on, but a major reason for that is the fact that the MetNet hard landers can do almost everything that the small stations were going to do and are cheaper, so thanks to improved instrumentation, they are no longer needed. -------------------- |
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