TEGA - Round 2 |
TEGA - Round 2 |
 Jul 19 2008, 12:04 PM
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Founder  Group: Chairman Posts: 14449 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1  |
I challenge you not to look at this and make a ping/spring/boing happy sort of a noise.
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Jul 25 2008, 08:13 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 6-September 07 From: Netherlands Member No.: 3683 |
Wow, thanks to Emily's Blog we now know more.
The part "not manufactured to a precise enough specification" is the "rail at the bottom". It tends to binds some doors while allowing others to open fine. While that sounds a bit sketchy to me it fuelers my hope that the other side of TEGA will be fine. More from her blog: QUOTE Finally, Leslie cleared up something I've apparently been confused about for a while. The reason they're pressing toward getting an ice-rich sample for TEGA is because of concern about a possible short. This short is a "high-side" short that could affect the whole instrument. It is not the same as the short that affected oven 4; that one is "cleared," it can't possibly affect the operation of TEGA in the future. So now we know this is another short. Not good news to hear, but on the positive side according to what Leslie Tamppari told Emily the team looking for a possible sol 60 rasp & deliver. The long wait is finally over, we just have to sit out this weekend. Thanks Emily for that update! -------------------- Error: Life.sys corrupted
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Jul 25 2008, 02:24 PM
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 Martian Photographer Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 3-March 05 Member No.: 183 |
QUOTE (Skyrunner @ Jul 25 2008, 09:13 AM)  So now we know this is another short. No. We don't. What Emily reported is what has been discussed previously--the team is worried about a "possible" future short that could threaten all ovens. There is something unknown that caused one short (in TA 4). There are types of shorts that are local to the oven, like that one. As Emily said, there are high side shorts that affect the entire instrument. There is "no way to assess the probability of another short circuit" occurring, so prudence dictates knocking off the highest priority samples first (http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/07_02_pr.php). Once there is another short, it may simply be too late to be prudent. |
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Jul 25 2008, 06:17 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 6-September 07 From: Netherlands Member No.: 3683 |
QUOTE (Deimos @ Jul 25 2008, 04:24 PM) No. We don't. What Emily reported is what has been discussed previously--the team is worried about a "possible" future short that could threaten all ovens. Misread that. I thought 'possible' meant they were note sure there is one as opposed to some new short occurring. -------------------- Error: Life.sys corrupted
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djellison TEGA - Round 2 Jul 19 2008, 12:04 PM
rob66 ping! spring! boing !
A beautiful sig... Jul 19 2008, 12:10 PM Stu Hmm, my noise was kind of a combination of a long,... Jul 19 2008, 12:19 PM nprev Oh, right on!!! What a welcome sight. ... Jul 19 2008, 01:03 PM Tesheiner "Phew" is the best word, I would say. No... Jul 19 2008, 01:09 PM Reckless Sproing indeed Jul 19 2008, 01:23 PM dmg Great news on the door. Here's hoping that al... Jul 19 2008, 03:14 PM djellison Left Eye R/B fudged colour. Right Eye Diopter IR/... Jul 19 2008, 06:41 PM
centsworth_II Question from old TEGA thread:
QUOTE (jmknapp)....... Jul 19 2008, 07:12 PM
jmknapp QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jul 19 2008, 02:12... Jul 20 2008, 12:37 PM climber QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 19 2008, 08:41 PM)... Jul 19 2008, 07:39 PM Shaka At the sound of your voice Heaven opens its portal... Jul 19 2008, 07:18 PM belleraphon1 I just caught the news from Emily's blog..... ... Jul 19 2008, 07:56 PM CosmicRocker QUOTE (climber @ Jul 19 2008, 01:39 PM) I... Jul 20 2008, 05:43 AM Solar Fan Yea!
It looks like they've successfully u... Jul 22 2008, 03:28 AM Cargo Cult QUOTE (Solar Fan @ Jul 22 2008, 04:28 AM)... Jul 22 2008, 08:48 AM Ken McLean QUOTE (Cargo Cult @ Jul 22 2008, 06:48 PM... Jul 23 2008, 10:58 AM centsworth_II QUOTE (Ken McLean @ Jul 23 2008, 06:58 AM... Jul 23 2008, 03:07 PM BrianL My momma always said, "TEGA is like a box of ... Jul 23 2008, 05:07 PM Skyrunner QUOTE (BrianL @ Jul 23 2008, 07:07 PM) My... Jul 23 2008, 06:07 PM TheChemist Apologies, the wait is too long Jul 23 2008, 09:25 PM jmjawors This does not clear up anything for me. Then agai... Jul 25 2008, 06:31 PM akuo Looks like they are finally going for it:
QUOTE Sc... Jul 25 2008, 11:42 PM bcory "NASA has tentatively scheduled a "mid-c... Jul 26 2008, 01:33 AM Aussie I have always been a little in awe of the expertis... Jul 26 2008, 03:15 AM 1101001 Sol 60 Raw Images
This looks like post-delivery, ... Jul 26 2008, 03:46 PM fredk They certainly got some serious rasping done:
http... Jul 26 2008, 04:05 PM Juramike QUOTE (fredk @ Jul 26 2008, 11:05 AM) The... Jul 26 2008, 04:26 PM jamescanvin Here is a before and after gif. Jul 26 2008, 04:08 PM imipak Is it just me, or did they completely miss the ove... Jul 26 2008, 05:11 PM ugordan I don't think they missed it. There's some... Jul 26 2008, 05:29 PM centsworth_II QUOTE (imipak @ Jul 26 2008, 01:11 PM) Th... Jul 26 2008, 06:37 PM Reckless Looking at the early and late post dump shots hter... Jul 26 2008, 05:43 PM 1101001 I venture they got an oven-full signal. Maybe.
Th... Jul 26 2008, 06:17 PM imipak I take it back - there are traces along the lower ... Jul 26 2008, 08:00 PM Shaka Still... I would welcome a confirmation of "o... Jul 26 2008, 08:24 PM BrianL Yeah, what's the scoop?
Sorry, couldn... Jul 26 2008, 08:55 PM akuo Not enough material in the oven :-(
http://phoenix... Jul 26 2008, 10:24 PM dvandorn QUOTE (akuo @ Jul 26 2008, 05:24 PM) Not ... Jul 26 2008, 10:43 PM TheChemist Well, there is also some good news in there :
... Jul 26 2008, 10:33 PM elakdawalla Neither -- "much of the soil remained lodged ... Jul 26 2008, 10:49 PM slinted Here's an RAC image of the sample before the s... Jul 26 2008, 11:19 PM Paul Fjeld QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 26 2008, 06:49 P... Jul 27 2008, 02:20 AM akuo As the press release says "the robotic arm co... Jul 26 2008, 10:49 PM Stu Mars has never given up any of its secrets without... Jul 26 2008, 10:54 PM ArizonaWildcat QUOTE (Stu @ Jul 26 2008, 02:54 PM) Mars ... Jul 26 2008, 11:19 PM JRehling What's most annoying is that with sublimation,... Jul 27 2008, 02:26 AM Shaka
I can't stand it. Jul 27 2008, 12:03 AM belleraphon1 Nothing comes easy....
Trying to operate a delic... Jul 27 2008, 12:18 AM PDP8E 1) hold the scoop so that material should fall out... Jul 27 2008, 01:28 AM Deimos QUOTE (PDP8E @ Jul 27 2008, 02:28 AM) 1) ... Jul 27 2008, 03:34 AM elakdawalla QUOTE (Deimos @ Jul 26 2008, 07:34 PM) Yo... Jul 27 2008, 03:08 PM jmjawors There is a reason they are not going about it in s... Jul 27 2008, 02:11 AM Shaka
These TEGA scoops don't empty unless you hit ... Jul 27 2008, 05:12 AM climber I can also see other good news :
- if the sample ... Jul 27 2008, 06:41 AM jmknapp The way the soil clumps and adheres suggests a fai... Jul 27 2008, 11:22 AM fredk QUOTE (jmknapp @ Jul 27 2008, 11:22 AM) T... Jul 27 2008, 09:29 PM babboxy mankind always struggles with ice Jul 27 2008, 11:28 AM Paul Fjeld I know silver linings are little annoying, but I f... Jul 27 2008, 02:25 PM mike QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Jul 27 2008, 06:25 AM... Jul 27 2008, 09:49 PM BrianL So, if this sample is stuck in there, how are they... Jul 27 2008, 02:10 PM 1101001 QUOTE (BrianL @ Jul 27 2008, 06:10 AM) So... Jul 27 2008, 06:20 PM jmjawors Did they empty the scoop onto MECA?
[Image] Jul 27 2008, 07:01 PM Juramike recent space.com article on Phoenix's delivery... Jul 27 2008, 03:46 PM dvandorn With apologies to all...
"Comedy is easy. M... Jul 27 2008, 04:16 PM PDP8E
A young nasa test pilot and an eager JPL enginee... Jul 27 2008, 05:17 PM Juramike From the update:
QUOTE NASA's Phoenix Mars La... Jul 27 2008, 10:57 PM ElkGroveDan How do they define "overnight Sunday"? ... Jul 28 2008, 12:18 AM elakdawalla I am virtually certain that they mean "overni... Jul 28 2008, 03:06 AM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 27 2008, 07:06 P... Jul 28 2008, 03:31 AM climber QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jul 28 2008, 05:31 A... Jul 28 2008, 06:44 AM fredk As far as heating of the scoop goes, does anyone k... Jul 28 2008, 03:11 AM djellison QUOTE (fredk @ Jul 28 2008, 04:11 AM) As ... Jul 28 2008, 07:05 AM jmknapp QUOTE (fredk @ Jul 27 2008, 11:11 PM) As ... Jul 28 2008, 09:29 AM nprev Now that's a fascinating factoid, actually... Jul 28 2008, 03:50 AM Floyd I think we should all switch to apparent solar tim... Jul 28 2008, 04:36 AM NotLurkingAnymore Presumably an unknown amount of material did make ... Jul 28 2008, 10:11 AM TheChemist The oven will be used again for a second attempt t... Jul 28 2008, 11:12 AM BrianL There's stuff sticking to the screen on the So... Jul 28 2008, 03:39 PM djellison QUOTE (BrianL @ Jul 28 2008, 04:39 PM) Wa... Jul 28 2008, 04:49 PM jmknapp QUOTE (BrianL @ Jul 28 2008, 11:39 AM) Th... Jul 28 2008, 05:01 PM jamescanvin You mean there WAS material stuck to the screen, i... Jul 28 2008, 04:45 PM ElkGroveDan The icy soil in the Mars environs, looks and seems... Jul 28 2008, 05:43 PM Juramike QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jul 28 2008, 12:43 P... Jul 28 2008, 05:59 PM brellis Sounds like you can make a nice igloo outta this s... Jul 28 2008, 06:35 PM NotLurkingAnymore Just a few more thoughts on the state of oven 0.
... Jul 28 2008, 09:23 PM 1101001 Failed again. Not enough delivered to TEGA.
JPL P... Jul 29 2008, 01:35 AM Paul Fjeld QUOTE Smith said, "While we continue with det... Jul 29 2008, 01:47 AM centsworth_II QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Jul 28 2008, 09:47 PM... Jul 29 2008, 02:13 AM Shaka Just how vital is it to boil some water vapor from... Jul 29 2008, 02:26 AM Juramike I read that as, "Well, the stuff is in the ov... Jul 29 2008, 02:48 AM Paul Fjeld Okay, I'm a bit confused.
Peter's comment... Jul 29 2008, 03:20 AM Aussie QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Jul 29 2008, 04:20 AM... Jul 29 2008, 09:01 AM centsworth_II QUOTE (Juramike @ Jul 28 2008, 09:48 PM) ... Jul 29 2008, 03:23 AM CosmicRocker How about picking up some dry soil and tipping it ... Jul 29 2008, 04:04 AM jmknapp QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Jul 28 2008, 11:04 ... Jul 29 2008, 10:56 AM MahFL My take is they can't get an icy sample into t... Jul 29 2008, 12:19 PM |
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