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djellison
post Jul 19 2008, 12:04 PM
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I challenge you not to look at this and make a ping/spring/boing happy sort of a noise.

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Shaka
post Jul 29 2008, 02:26 AM
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blink.gif Just how vital is it to boil some water vapor from a pristine "ice sample"? We know the ice is there; that white stuff that disappears couldn't be anything else, right? What we want to learn about is what's left behind after the ice vaporizes - organics, or heaven knows what? So why not just position the scoop over the screen and let the sample drop out when it's good and ready? Then cook the important stuff.

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- djellison   TEGA - Round 2   Jul 19 2008, 12:04 PM
- - rob66   ping! spring! boing ! A beautiful sig...   Jul 19 2008, 12:10 PM
- - Stu   Hmm, my noise was kind of a combination of a long,...   Jul 19 2008, 12:19 PM
- - nprev   Oh, right on!!! What a welcome sight. ...   Jul 19 2008, 01:03 PM
- - Tesheiner   "Phew" is the best word, I would say. No...   Jul 19 2008, 01:09 PM
- - Reckless   Sproing indeed   Jul 19 2008, 01:23 PM
- - dmg   Great news on the door. Here's hoping that al...   Jul 19 2008, 03:14 PM
- - djellison   Left Eye R/B fudged colour. Right Eye Diopter IR/...   Jul 19 2008, 06:41 PM
|- - centsworth_II   Question from old TEGA thread: QUOTE (jmknapp).......   Jul 19 2008, 07:12 PM
||- - jmknapp   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jul 19 2008, 02:12...   Jul 20 2008, 12:37 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 19 2008, 08:41 PM)...   Jul 19 2008, 07:39 PM
- - Shaka   At the sound of your voice Heaven opens its portal...   Jul 19 2008, 07:18 PM
- - belleraphon1   I just caught the news from Emily's blog..... ...   Jul 19 2008, 07:56 PM
- - CosmicRocker   QUOTE (climber @ Jul 19 2008, 01:39 PM) I...   Jul 20 2008, 05:43 AM
- - Solar Fan   Yea! It looks like they've successfully u...   Jul 22 2008, 03:28 AM
|- - Cargo Cult   QUOTE (Solar Fan @ Jul 22 2008, 04:28 AM)...   Jul 22 2008, 08:48 AM
|- - Ken McLean   QUOTE (Cargo Cult @ Jul 22 2008, 06:48 PM...   Jul 23 2008, 10:58 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Ken McLean @ Jul 23 2008, 06:58 AM...   Jul 23 2008, 03:07 PM
- - BrianL   My momma always said, "TEGA is like a box of ...   Jul 23 2008, 05:07 PM
|- - Skyrunner   QUOTE (BrianL @ Jul 23 2008, 07:07 PM) My...   Jul 23 2008, 06:07 PM
- - TheChemist   Apologies, the wait is too long   Jul 23 2008, 09:25 PM
- - Skyrunner   Wow, thanks to Emily's Blog we now know more. ...   Jul 25 2008, 08:13 AM
|- - Deimos   QUOTE (Skyrunner @ Jul 25 2008, 09:13 AM)...   Jul 25 2008, 02:24 PM
|- - Skyrunner   QUOTE (Deimos @ Jul 25 2008, 04:24 PM) No...   Jul 25 2008, 06:17 PM
- - jmjawors   This does not clear up anything for me. Then agai...   Jul 25 2008, 06:31 PM
- - akuo   Looks like they are finally going for it: QUOTE Sc...   Jul 25 2008, 11:42 PM
- - bcory   "NASA has tentatively scheduled a "mid-c...   Jul 26 2008, 01:33 AM
- - Aussie   I have always been a little in awe of the expertis...   Jul 26 2008, 03:15 AM
|- - 1101001   Sol 60 Raw Images This looks like post-delivery, ...   Jul 26 2008, 03:46 PM
- - fredk   They certainly got some serious rasping done: http...   Jul 26 2008, 04:05 PM
|- - Juramike   QUOTE (fredk @ Jul 26 2008, 11:05 AM) The...   Jul 26 2008, 04:26 PM
- - jamescanvin   Here is a before and after gif.   Jul 26 2008, 04:08 PM
- - imipak   Is it just me, or did they completely miss the ove...   Jul 26 2008, 05:11 PM
|- - ugordan   I don't think they missed it. There's some...   Jul 26 2008, 05:29 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (imipak @ Jul 26 2008, 01:11 PM) Th...   Jul 26 2008, 06:37 PM
- - Reckless   Looking at the early and late post dump shots hter...   Jul 26 2008, 05:43 PM
|- - 1101001   I venture they got an oven-full signal. Maybe. Th...   Jul 26 2008, 06:17 PM
- - imipak   I take it back - there are traces along the lower ...   Jul 26 2008, 08:00 PM
- - Shaka   Still... I would welcome a confirmation of "o...   Jul 26 2008, 08:24 PM
- - BrianL   Yeah, what's the scoop? Sorry, couldn...   Jul 26 2008, 08:55 PM
- - akuo   Not enough material in the oven :-( http://phoenix...   Jul 26 2008, 10:24 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (akuo @ Jul 26 2008, 05:24 PM) Not ...   Jul 26 2008, 10:43 PM
- - TheChemist   Well, there is also some good news in there : ...   Jul 26 2008, 10:33 PM
- - elakdawalla   Neither -- "much of the soil remained lodged ...   Jul 26 2008, 10:49 PM
|- - slinted   Here's an RAC image of the sample before the s...   Jul 26 2008, 11:19 PM
|- - Paul Fjeld   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 26 2008, 06:49 P...   Jul 27 2008, 02:20 AM
- - akuo   As the press release says "the robotic arm co...   Jul 26 2008, 10:49 PM
- - Stu   Mars has never given up any of its secrets without...   Jul 26 2008, 10:54 PM
|- - ArizonaWildcat   QUOTE (Stu @ Jul 26 2008, 02:54 PM) Mars ...   Jul 26 2008, 11:19 PM
|- - JRehling   What's most annoying is that with sublimation,...   Jul 27 2008, 02:26 AM
- - Shaka   I can't stand it.   Jul 27 2008, 12:03 AM
- - belleraphon1   Nothing comes easy.... Trying to operate a delic...   Jul 27 2008, 12:18 AM
- - PDP8E   1) hold the scoop so that material should fall out...   Jul 27 2008, 01:28 AM
|- - Deimos   QUOTE (PDP8E @ Jul 27 2008, 02:28 AM) 1) ...   Jul 27 2008, 03:34 AM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (Deimos @ Jul 26 2008, 07:34 PM) Yo...   Jul 27 2008, 03:08 PM
- - jmjawors   There is a reason they are not going about it in s...   Jul 27 2008, 02:11 AM
- - Shaka   These TEGA scoops don't empty unless you hit ...   Jul 27 2008, 05:12 AM
- - climber   I can also see other good news : - if the sample ...   Jul 27 2008, 06:41 AM
- - jmknapp   The way the soil clumps and adheres suggests a fai...   Jul 27 2008, 11:22 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Jul 27 2008, 11:22 AM) T...   Jul 27 2008, 09:29 PM
- - babboxy   mankind always struggles with ice   Jul 27 2008, 11:28 AM
|- - Paul Fjeld   I know silver linings are little annoying, but I f...   Jul 27 2008, 02:25 PM
|- - mike   QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Jul 27 2008, 06:25 AM...   Jul 27 2008, 09:49 PM
- - BrianL   So, if this sample is stuck in there, how are they...   Jul 27 2008, 02:10 PM
|- - 1101001   QUOTE (BrianL @ Jul 27 2008, 06:10 AM) So...   Jul 27 2008, 06:20 PM
|- - jmjawors   Did they empty the scoop onto MECA? [Image]   Jul 27 2008, 07:01 PM
- - Juramike   recent space.com article on Phoenix's delivery...   Jul 27 2008, 03:46 PM
- - dvandorn   With apologies to all... "Comedy is easy. M...   Jul 27 2008, 04:16 PM
- - PDP8E   A young nasa test pilot and an eager JPL enginee...   Jul 27 2008, 05:17 PM
- - Juramike   From the update: QUOTE NASA's Phoenix Mars La...   Jul 27 2008, 10:57 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   How do they define "overnight Sunday"? ...   Jul 28 2008, 12:18 AM
- - elakdawalla   I am virtually certain that they mean "overni...   Jul 28 2008, 03:06 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 27 2008, 07:06 P...   Jul 28 2008, 03:31 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jul 28 2008, 05:31 A...   Jul 28 2008, 06:44 AM
- - fredk   As far as heating of the scoop goes, does anyone k...   Jul 28 2008, 03:11 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (fredk @ Jul 28 2008, 04:11 AM) As ...   Jul 28 2008, 07:05 AM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (fredk @ Jul 27 2008, 11:11 PM) As ...   Jul 28 2008, 09:29 AM
- - nprev   Now that's a fascinating factoid, actually...   Jul 28 2008, 03:50 AM
- - Floyd   I think we should all switch to apparent solar tim...   Jul 28 2008, 04:36 AM
- - NotLurkingAnymore   Presumably an unknown amount of material did make ...   Jul 28 2008, 10:11 AM
- - TheChemist   The oven will be used again for a second attempt t...   Jul 28 2008, 11:12 AM
- - BrianL   There's stuff sticking to the screen on the So...   Jul 28 2008, 03:39 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (BrianL @ Jul 28 2008, 04:39 PM) Wa...   Jul 28 2008, 04:49 PM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (BrianL @ Jul 28 2008, 11:39 AM) Th...   Jul 28 2008, 05:01 PM
- - jamescanvin   You mean there WAS material stuck to the screen, i...   Jul 28 2008, 04:45 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   The icy soil in the Mars environs, looks and seems...   Jul 28 2008, 05:43 PM
|- - Juramike   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jul 28 2008, 12:43 P...   Jul 28 2008, 05:59 PM
|- - brellis   Sounds like you can make a nice igloo outta this s...   Jul 28 2008, 06:35 PM
- - NotLurkingAnymore   Just a few more thoughts on the state of oven 0. ...   Jul 28 2008, 09:23 PM
|- - 1101001   Failed again. Not enough delivered to TEGA. JPL P...   Jul 29 2008, 01:35 AM
|- - Paul Fjeld   QUOTE Smith said, "While we continue with det...   Jul 29 2008, 01:47 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Jul 28 2008, 09:47 PM...   Jul 29 2008, 02:13 AM
- - Shaka   Just how vital is it to boil some water vapor from...   Jul 29 2008, 02:26 AM
- - Juramike   I read that as, "Well, the stuff is in the ov...   Jul 29 2008, 02:48 AM
|- - Paul Fjeld   Okay, I'm a bit confused. Peter's comment...   Jul 29 2008, 03:20 AM
||- - Aussie   QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Jul 29 2008, 04:20 AM...   Jul 29 2008, 09:01 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Juramike @ Jul 28 2008, 09:48 PM) ...   Jul 29 2008, 03:23 AM
- - CosmicRocker   How about picking up some dry soil and tipping it ...   Jul 29 2008, 04:04 AM
- - jmknapp   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Jul 28 2008, 11:04 ...   Jul 29 2008, 10:56 AM
- - MahFL   My take is they can't get an icy sample into t...   Jul 29 2008, 12:19 PM
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