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Italian magazine claims Phoenix contaminated Mars with terrestrial bacteria
Paolo Amoroso
post Sep 1 2008, 05:04 PM
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I have just read a short story by Alex Saragosa published on issue 1067 (29 Aug 2008, pag. 61) of the italian magazine "il venerdì", a Friday supplement of the major national newspaper la repubblica. The story, titled "I batteri terrestri hanno invaso il pianeta rosso" (terrestrial bacteria have invaded the red planet), claims a group of JPL bilogists analyzed samples from the room where Phoenix was assembled and found 26,000 bacterial cells per square meter from 100 different species, including highly radiation resistant Bacillus pumilis. According to the story, these bacteria may have survived the trip to Mars.

I have never heard anything similar from reliable sources (i.e. anything but la Repubblica) . Any info?


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post Sep 1 2008, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (Paolo Amoroso @ Sep 1 2008, 06:04 PM) *
I have never heard anything similar from reliable sources (i.e. anything but la Repubblica) . Any info?


I recall reading in Science (or similar rag) that a team from JPL originally found 100,000 microbes per sq/m just a few months before launch, and thus requested a more aggressive sterilization program.


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NASA Astrobiology Magazine

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AM: What’s the requirement for the upcoming Phoenix mission?

CC: Phoenix is going to a place where there is ice beneath the surface. It will not be going to a place where there is ice on the surface. And Phoenix as a lander is a fairly light spacecraft. It doesn’t have a lot of big heavy massive things in it. It also doesn’t have any thermonuclear generators, so it will not be producing its own heat; it runs on solar panels. So based on calculations that were done by the project to document all this to the appropriate level of confidence, the spacecraft itself is not being required to be sterilized because the martian surface at its landing site is not considered to be a special region.

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New Scientist (so be skeptical): Could microbes on Phoenix survive on Mars?

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To fill this gap, a team from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, US, took a census of all microbial life living in the Phoenix assembly room as the mission progressed.
About four months before launch, in April 2007, at least 100,000 microbial cells – including 132 different kinds of bacteria – covered each square metre of the room. In June, the JPL team found evidence for at least 35,000 cells per square metre, belonging to 45 different kinds of bacteria – a decrease most likely due to stepped-up cleaning efforts.
Around the time of launch in August, the room boasted at least 26,000 cells per square metre and 100 kinds of bacteria.


This sounds like the source of the Italian story.

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- Paolo Amoroso   Italian magazine claims Phoenix contaminated Mars with terrestrial bacteria   Sep 1 2008, 05:04 PM
- - djellison   Well - those numbers do sound high - but let's...   Sep 1 2008, 05:32 PM
- - JRehling   Yes, the problem would only be if they are able to...   Sep 1 2008, 05:41 PM
- - Del Palmer   QUOTE (Paolo Amoroso @ Sep 1 2008, 06:04 ...   Sep 1 2008, 05:54 PM
|- - 1101001   NASA Astrobiology Magazine QUOTE AM: What’s the r...   Sep 1 2008, 06:02 PM
|- - 1101001   New Scientist (so be skeptical): Could microbes on...   Sep 1 2008, 06:08 PM
- - nprev   Doug's right, though. You can't get rid of...   Sep 1 2008, 06:54 PM
- - Shaka   Ominous voice of Joe Friday: With a bacterium, it...   Sep 1 2008, 07:05 PM
- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Paolo Amoroso @ Sep 1 2008, 09:04 ...   Sep 1 2008, 07:42 PM
- - ConyHigh   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjiGH9QNiU0 Ya thi...   Sep 1 2008, 10:17 PM
- - Pavel   I think it's Bacillus pumilus (both words endi...   Sep 1 2008, 11:00 PM
- - jmknapp   What's the max surface temperature on Mars--0C...   Sep 2 2008, 10:46 AM
- - djellison   If you're lucky, at summer, near the equator -...   Sep 2 2008, 11:21 AM
|- - marsbug   Yes but regions that have those kinds of ground te...   Sep 3 2008, 03:07 PM
|- - gallen_53   QUOTE (marsbug @ Sep 3 2008, 04:07 PM) Th...   Sep 3 2008, 05:31 PM
|- - hendric   QUOTE (gallen_53 @ Sep 3 2008, 11:31 AM) ...   Sep 8 2008, 05:58 PM
||- - Juramike   QUOTE (hendric @ Sep 8 2008, 01:58 PM) Du...   Sep 8 2008, 06:31 PM
|- - jumpjack   QUOTE (gallen_53 @ Sep 3 2008, 07:31 PM) ...   Oct 2 2008, 07:26 AM
- - marsbug   Well this conversations been done to the death on ...   Sep 3 2008, 07:08 PM
|- - gallen_53   QUOTE (marsbug @ Sep 3 2008, 07:08 PM) We...   Sep 3 2008, 09:44 PM
||- - jmknapp   You could add: 5. What does it do for food? I fo...   Sep 3 2008, 09:59 PM
|- - gallen_53   QUOTE (marsbug @ Sep 3 2008, 07:08 PM) I...   Sep 4 2008, 12:35 AM
|- - mike   Nothing's feasible until it happens.   Sep 4 2008, 01:56 AM
- - dvandorn   No, Mike -- feasibility, by definition, is a proje...   Sep 4 2008, 05:22 AM
|- - ZenDraken   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 3 2008, 09:22 PM) C...   Sep 9 2008, 10:43 PM
- - Shaka   OK, oDoug, we're all dying to see your detaile...   Sep 4 2008, 07:06 AM
- - dvandorn   Well, Shaka -- just go ask all of Willy's frie...   Sep 4 2008, 03:48 PM
- - Shaka   If this were a Science Fiction forum, this issue w...   Sep 4 2008, 08:17 PM
|- - tedstryk   I think the source is questionable as well. I mea...   Sep 6 2008, 10:10 PM
- - Juramike   I realize I'm treading a thin line here, but t...   Sep 9 2008, 08:12 PM
- - Juramike   To get back to the original speculative claim for ...   Sep 10 2008, 03:33 AM
|- - 1101001   QUOTE (Juramike @ Sep 9 2008, 08:33 PM) (...   Sep 10 2008, 04:54 AM
- - dvandorn   But... how are we currently looking (or have any i...   Sep 10 2008, 04:07 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 10 2008, 05:07 AM) ...   Sep 10 2008, 07:04 AM
||- - vikingmars   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 10 2008, 09:04 AM)...   Sep 10 2008, 02:38 PM
||- - Shaka   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Sep 10 2008, 04:38 AM...   Sep 10 2008, 07:59 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 10 2008, 12:07 AM) ...   Sep 10 2008, 07:19 AM
- - tanjent   In order to positively identify a microscopic life...   Sep 10 2008, 01:33 PM
- - dvandorn   To Doug et al -- what I'm really getting at, h...   Sep 10 2008, 04:27 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 10 2008, 05:27 PM) ...   Sep 10 2008, 05:21 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 10 2008, 12:27 PM) ...   Sep 10 2008, 06:59 PM
- - ilbasso   Have we checked any of the big rocks to see if the...   Sep 10 2008, 05:58 PM
|- - BrianL   QUOTE (ilbasso @ Sep 10 2008, 12:58 PM) H...   Sep 10 2008, 06:22 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   I wonder if any of these little guys hitched a rid...   Sep 10 2008, 07:04 PM
- - imipak   ...rustlers!! Time to form a posse.   Sep 11 2008, 06:46 PM
- - PhilCo126   those bacteria (if any) will freeze to death once ...   Sep 12 2008, 04:39 PM
|- - Juramike   "those bacteria (if any) will freeze [maybe t...   Sep 12 2008, 04:52 PM
- - marsophile   The bacteria spores may survive a few million year...   Sep 22 2008, 04:37 PM
|- - 1101001   QUOTE (marsophile @ Sep 22 2008, 09:37 AM...   Sep 22 2008, 06:09 PM
- - Shaka   Get a load of the Kim Stanley Robinson-from-Hell...   Sep 22 2008, 09:17 PM


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