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MSL schedule delay?
vjkane
post Sep 9 2008, 08:10 PM
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The most recent Aviation Week and Space Technology (9/8) has the following tidbit in a piece on NASA schedule delays:

"On the robotoic front, the testing schedule for a critical instrument for the Mars Science Laboratory -- dubbed SAM for Sample Analysis at Mars -- may delay launch of the advanced rover from its 2009 planetary window into 2011."


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Burmese
post Oct 4 2008, 07:51 PM
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My initial comments about MSL were intended to focus on that program, and whether NASA was being clear-headed in determining a timetable for a successful mission. My lamentations about the possible empty slot in 2009 were not intended to distract from that topic and I'm sorry if they did.

The worst possible scenario would be to launch in 2009 and have a mission failure that traces back to some subsystem or component that was rushed or not fully tested.

2nd worst would be to cancel the program and at this point I think the media is just playing the "1/2 empty glass" angle to make the news more 'newsworthy'. I would hope and expect that they get MSL to Mars.

Yes, some of the bloom is off and that is partly due to the MER's phenomenal success - there now exists the very real possibility that one or more of the MER's could end up with an operating lifetime on Mars longer than MSL. Back when NASA went to congress for funding things looked nice and orderly - $800m for a couple of rovers designed for at least 90 days and $1.5bn for a nuclear rover to last perhaps 5 years. From here on out, anytime NASA goes to congress with a budget for land assets on Mars that are anything but solar powered they're gonna get grilled on why and the -perception- that any other approach is a boondoggle will be hard to shoot down.
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- vjkane   MSL schedule delay?   Sep 9 2008, 08:10 PM
- - MahFL   Oh crap, please say it's not true.   Sep 10 2008, 04:45 PM
- - monitorlizard   I read that same tidbit. It'll be interesting...   Sep 10 2008, 06:19 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (monitorlizard @ Sep 10 2008, 07:19...   Sep 10 2008, 06:34 PM
- - vjkane   Science magazine just published an article on the ...   Sep 25 2008, 11:47 PM
- - Burmese   Given the ongoing series of reported delays and se...   Sep 26 2008, 05:14 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Burmese @ Sep 26 2008, 09:14 AM) S...   Sep 26 2008, 06:15 PM
||- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Sep 26 2008, 01:15 PM...   Sep 26 2008, 06:40 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Burmese @ Sep 26 2008, 06:14 PM) l...   Sep 26 2008, 07:30 PM
- - siravan   If MSL launch is in fact delayed until 2011, there...   Sep 27 2008, 06:54 PM
- - Fran Ontanaya   If a delay to 2011 allows to address the issues wi...   Sep 27 2008, 07:07 PM
|- - mars loon   According to this new report in Aviation Week on O...   Oct 3 2008, 04:11 PM
- - Vultur   Ouch. I really, really hope they can finish buildi...   Oct 4 2008, 12:37 AM
|- - gallen_53   I have heard that $1.7 billion has already be...   Oct 4 2008, 04:59 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (gallen_53 @ Oct 4 2008, 05:59 AM) ...   Oct 4 2008, 09:06 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 4 2008, 11:06 AM) ...   Oct 4 2008, 10:13 AM
- - Tman   Yes, time to move on! And which one would you ...   Oct 4 2008, 01:08 PM
- - vjkane   I agree with Doug that simply buying more MERs ins...   Oct 4 2008, 01:25 PM
- - Mariner9   The scary thing about the 'smaller cheaper rov...   Oct 4 2008, 05:10 PM
- - imipak   Whilst it's clear that neither MER or MSL are ...   Oct 4 2008, 05:24 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (imipak @ Oct 4 2008, 01:24 PM) ......   Oct 4 2008, 06:01 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   We are starting to tread into that circular discus...   Oct 4 2008, 06:06 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Oct 4 2008, 07:06 PM...   Oct 4 2008, 06:31 PM
- - dvandorn   If you have a reliable committment to fly a rover ...   Oct 4 2008, 06:21 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 4 2008, 02:21 PM) W...   Oct 4 2008, 06:33 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 4 2008, 07:21 PM) I...   Oct 4 2008, 06:41 PM
- - djellison   What's the point in talking about flying ...   Oct 4 2008, 06:54 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 4 2008, 07:54 PM) ...   Oct 4 2008, 07:12 PM
- - Burmese   My initial comments about MSL were intended to foc...   Oct 4 2008, 07:51 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (Burmese @ Oct 4 2008, 08:51 PM) .....   Oct 4 2008, 07:55 PM
- - climber   I remember that one of the reason the MERs flew an...   Oct 4 2008, 08:57 PM
- - Burmese   http://www.mcclatchydc.com/science/story/53487.htm...   Oct 5 2008, 07:29 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (Burmese @ Oct 5 2008, 07:29 PM) ht...   Oct 5 2008, 08:47 PM
- - vjkane   I did more research on the enhanced ExoMars, and w...   Oct 5 2008, 09:01 PM
|- - SFJCody   All very depressing stuff. I get the sense the US ...   Oct 5 2008, 09:38 PM
- - Fran Ontanaya   http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/overview/ QUO...   Oct 5 2008, 09:31 PM
- - gallen_53   My reading of the tea leaves is the whole Mars Pro...   Oct 6 2008, 04:08 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (gallen_53 @ Oct 6 2008, 04:08 PM) ...   Oct 6 2008, 04:22 PM
||- - gallen_53   QUOTE (vjkane @ Oct 6 2008, 05:22 PM) I...   Oct 6 2008, 04:45 PM
||- - gallen_53   QUOTE (vjkane @ Oct 6 2008, 04:22 PM) Als...   Oct 6 2008, 05:07 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (gallen_53 @ Oct 6 2008, 09:08 AM) ...   Oct 7 2008, 03:44 AM
|- - andrea   I want to add a "couple" of consideratio...   Oct 7 2008, 05:02 AM
|- - gallen_53   QUOTE (andrea @ Oct 7 2008, 05:02 AM) I c...   Oct 7 2008, 07:22 PM
- - djellison   I think it's worth reminding people of the str...   Oct 6 2008, 05:22 PM
|- - gallen_53   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 6 2008, 05:22 PM) ...   Oct 6 2008, 06:26 PM
- - djellison   You've quoted what I've said - but you...   Oct 6 2008, 06:29 PM
- - djellison   OK - a post explicitly calling for a specific pers...   Oct 6 2008, 07:43 PM
- - Burmese   There are a number of mainstream media outlets car...   Oct 6 2008, 08:04 PM
- - PhilHorzempa   I imagine that someone at NASA has thought of this...   Oct 7 2008, 02:56 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (PhilHorzempa @ Oct 6 2008, 07:56 P...   Oct 7 2008, 03:42 AM
- - dmuller   I dont know how much money can be saved by launchi...   Oct 7 2008, 04:27 AM
- - Fran Ontanaya   Good points. Both MER and Phoenix show what rovers...   Oct 7 2008, 05:38 AM
- - Juramike   space.com article on the MSL "issues".   Oct 8 2008, 03:51 AM
- - gpurcell   My guess is that MSL flies eventually, just becaus...   Oct 8 2008, 02:59 PM
|- - BrianL   Oops, bordering on political there, better be care...   Oct 8 2008, 05:45 PM
- - Sunspot   MEDIA ADVISORY: M08-200 NASA TO PROVIDE MARS SCIE...   Oct 9 2008, 09:57 PM
- - climber   I would say that the Title already state that MSL ...   Oct 10 2008, 01:37 PM
- - Stu   I'd agree with that... whilst keeping my finge...   Oct 10 2008, 03:27 PM
- - climber   I fully agree Stu. You say the right worlds. May b...   Oct 10 2008, 04:51 PM
- - imipak   NASA TV doesn't seem to be carrying the press ...   Oct 10 2008, 07:03 PM
|- - punkboi   Woohoo! Here's hoping everything is still...   Oct 10 2008, 07:45 PM
- - elakdawalla   Very short statement. Decision is to continue una...   Oct 10 2008, 07:04 PM
- - centsworth_II   "The descent stage, otherwise known as the sk...   Oct 10 2008, 07:11 PM
- - ChrisC   Grrrr, the promised streaming http://www.nasa.gov/...   Oct 10 2008, 07:11 PM
|- - ChrisC   QUOTE (ChrisC @ Oct 10 2008, 02:11 PM) Gr...   Oct 12 2008, 03:53 PM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (ChrisC @ Oct 12 2008, 04:53 PM) Ca...   Oct 12 2008, 04:10 PM
||- - climber   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 12 2008, 06:10 PM)...   Oct 13 2008, 07:09 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (ChrisC @ Oct 10 2008, 03:11 PM) Gr...   Oct 12 2008, 09:07 PM
|- - rdale   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Oct 12 2008, 05:07...   Oct 13 2008, 12:58 PM
- - elakdawalla   You're not missing much. It's not too inf...   Oct 10 2008, 07:15 PM
- - Stu   I can't get on either... Never mind, not t...   Oct 10 2008, 07:17 PM
- - elakdawalla   The biggest thing causing both budget and schedule...   Oct 10 2008, 07:21 PM
- - imipak   Phew, that's a rare bit of good news. (I hope ...   Oct 10 2008, 07:43 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (imipak @ Oct 10 2008, 02:43 PM) .....   Oct 10 2008, 08:13 PM
- - elakdawalla   The weight of MSL is the main problem. One specif...   Oct 10 2008, 08:36 PM
- - centsworth_II   "Among the major hardware problems: the actua...   Oct 10 2008, 08:43 PM
- - imipak   ( <snip!> lengthy ramble about the need ...   Oct 10 2008, 08:55 PM
|- - ustrax   Fantastic piece of writing Emily! Regardin...   Oct 10 2008, 10:37 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (ustrax @ Oct 11 2008, 12:37 AM) Fa...   Oct 11 2008, 12:58 PM
- - Norm Hartnett   http://www.lpi.usra.edu/pss/presentations/...10/gr...   Oct 10 2008, 11:33 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (Norm Hartnett @ Oct 11 2008, 12:33...   Oct 13 2008, 04:40 PM
|- - MahFL   Yes.....it's go !...for now..... Go for M...   Oct 13 2008, 04:54 PM
||- - rdale   QUOTE (MahFL @ Oct 13 2008, 12:54 PM) Yes...   Oct 13 2008, 06:32 PM
|- - SFJCody   QUOTE (gpurcell @ Oct 13 2008, 05:40 PM) ...   Oct 13 2008, 06:07 PM
- - Bobby   From yahoo news. No Delay from Nasa regarding MSL...   Oct 11 2008, 06:17 AM
- - vjkane   Alan Stern's thoughts on the MSL budget proble...   Oct 30 2008, 09:25 PM
- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (vjkane @ Oct 30 2008, 01:25 PM) Al...   Oct 31 2008, 02:10 AM


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