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djellison
post Jun 29 2005, 10:19 AM
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I know this picture doesnt look like much. It's grainy, it's bleached out quite a bit

But you owe it to yourselves to look at that picture, and think.

There is a rover climbing a hill on mars.

Isnt that amazing?

If you think hard enough - you can actually imagine being there. Walking with a rover, that we sent half a billion km's to a whole other world.

Sometimes, an image will just catch me off guard and I'll go "wow - LOOK at what we can do!"

Doug
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Phil Stooke
post Jun 30 2005, 12:56 PM
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Yes, this is a good place. I think about how things have changed over the years. I was around for Apollo, watched it live on Tv, and that was truly an amazing thing. The seventies - Viking, then Voyager at Jupiter, and the first Venera images of Venus, another amazing period.

But things got bad in the 80s. For a long time it looked as if planetary exploration would come to an end. No new launches... true, we had the Voyager encounters with Saturn, Uranus and Neptune, and they were amazing. There will never be another Voyager! (in our solar system anyway). But there were no new launches for a long time. it was actually the stated goal of David Stockman, head of the Office of Management and Budget under Reagan, to get NASA out of the planetary exploration game. (If I'm recalling this correctly). Luckily it turned around, and now we have missions all over the place. This decade is almost as great as the 60s for space nuts!

And of course the amazing thing is that we get to follow it all live. Others have commented on this - but it's worth repeating. Take Viking 1 - I saw the first pics on TV. Next day they are in the papers... well, just a few press release images. After a week or ten days the weekly news magazines have them, then Aviation Week. After two or three months they are in the astronomy magazines... but it was so drawn out! Any always the same press release images. Look at us now, with access to daily images from MER and Cassini, with hundreds of thousands of MOC and Themis images to play with, and off the shelf software to work with them. Armchair exploration has never been so easy! Now, if only ESA and JAXA would wake up to the fact that public release is the best kind of PR... it will be interesting to see what India and China do, but probably not much...

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post Jun 30 2005, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 30 2005, 12:56 PM)
Now, if only ESA and JAXA would wake up to the fact that public release is the best kind of PR...
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Alas I have a feeling that there is still a prejudice (at least in my country France) as what the public is not clever enough to understand science, so scientists here do only very few releases with very simplistic explanations. Images and results are not released, they are processed only by "specialists". And amateurs are deemed "not serious" "not valuable work". There is some need of the american way in this matter...




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I do wonder how many of the guys from the MER teams and JPL are members of this forum. I think it would be good if they indicated their presence and acknowledged the great work of all these amateur picture editors.


If there are, it is understandable they are perhaps instructed to stay anonymous, for reasons like avoiding giving caution to ideas or theories which are not from the JPL. There are other forums where really mad ideas are expressed...

I too hope that they read this forum, as there are sometimes valuable reflexions which could be a real help for the MER teams or to interpret what they see. But they also have specialists in geology, so perhaps they do not think useful to read this forum.
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- djellison   Take One Moment   Jun 29 2005, 10:19 AM
- - Tesheiner   It is too easy to forget about it, specially becau...   Jun 29 2005, 10:31 AM
|- - dilo   These "tele-presence" and "familiar...   Jun 29 2005, 05:27 PM
- - Nix   I hear you Doug, one actually CAN imagine being th...   Jun 29 2005, 07:08 PM
- - tfisher   Yes, and big kudos to NASA for letting us experien...   Jun 29 2005, 09:00 PM
- - aldo12xu   Yes, indeed, as it's been pointed out a few ti...   Jun 29 2005, 10:18 PM
- - Bill Harris   The incredible aspect is that within a very short ...   Jun 30 2005, 02:27 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   Yes, there is something really moving about seeing...   Jun 30 2005, 04:34 AM
- - glennwsmith   Doug, what blows my mind, in addition to the lands...   Jun 30 2005, 06:31 AM
|- - Marcel   Great break between all the stitching, discussing ...   Jun 30 2005, 08:28 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   To know what I feel, please imagine if there was p...   Jun 30 2005, 09:40 AM
- - djellison   " I allready am jealous to my children. Imagi...   Jun 30 2005, 09:42 AM
|- - brianc   Doug, you did an inspirational job in setting up t...   Jun 30 2005, 12:32 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Yes, this is a good place. I think about how thin...   Jun 30 2005, 12:56 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 30 2005, 12:56 PM)No...   Jun 30 2005, 01:52 PM
|- - Phillip   I view it as almost a moral imperative to log onto...   Jun 30 2005, 02:50 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Jun 30 2005, 01:52 P...   Jun 30 2005, 03:01 PM
- - Myran   Cant but agree with djellison, and thats the reaso...   Jun 30 2005, 03:09 PM
- - djellison   Well - there's a LOT of lurkers here. The give...   Jun 30 2005, 03:15 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 30 2005, 03:15 PM)Well...   Jun 30 2005, 03:28 PM
- - stevo   One of my favorite images has the Hubble telescope...   Jun 30 2005, 04:06 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (stevo @ Jun 30 2005, 04:06 PM)an exemp...   Jun 30 2005, 04:11 PM
- - aldo12xu   Following through with what Ustrax said, I got hoo...   Jun 30 2005, 04:40 PM
- - Bill Harris   And these planetary missions are about as pure as ...   Jun 30 2005, 05:54 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Jun 30 2005, 05:54 PM)Wh...   Jul 1 2005, 05:16 AM
|- - MichaelT   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Jul 1 2005, 05:16 AM...   Jul 1 2005, 06:51 AM
- - glennwsmith   Marcel, yes, I wonder also why more people -- and ...   Jul 1 2005, 01:34 AM
- - Nix   I have my own fair of frustrations as to how the m...   Jul 1 2005, 07:28 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (NIX @ Jul 1 2005, 07:28 AM)I have my o...   Jul 1 2005, 08:19 AM
- - djellison   Truth be told, the media would rather have a failu...   Jul 1 2005, 08:55 AM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 1 2005, 08:55 AM)Truth...   Jul 1 2005, 11:19 AM
- - djellison   It's a carrot stick issue though isnt it. Sho...   Jul 1 2005, 11:40 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 1 2005, 06:40 AM)Shoul...   Jul 1 2005, 11:59 AM
- - djellison   You would think in this modern media age - i.e. 40...   Jul 1 2005, 12:08 PM
- - Edward Schmitz   I had my dishnetwork turned off a while back. The...   Jul 1 2005, 05:07 PM
- - brianc   It's really interesting hearing the views of p...   Jul 1 2005, 05:51 PM
- - djellison   There is a thread about who we are already somewhe...   Jul 1 2005, 07:27 PM
- - brianc   Thanks Doug - appologies for misposting !!   Jul 1 2005, 07:44 PM


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