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imran
post Sep 24 2005, 04:23 PM
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This NASA Discovery mission is to be launched in June 2008 and will search for Earth-size and smaller planets. Launch was originally scheduled in 2007 but delayed by 8 months due to "funding constraints".

Here's the official web site:
http://www.kepler.arc.nasa.gov/
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post Apr 27 2009, 03:47 PM
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I am sure that you are right, for that reason. Another Earth-Luna system might be detectable, provided that there were sufficient transits recorded. How close to its primary could an Earth-Luna twin be and remain stable, and would that result in sufficient monitored transits during the Kepler primary mission to tease out the satellite?

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Timing Detection of Eclipsing Binary Planets and Transiting Extrasolar Moons

We investigate the improved detection of extrasolar planets around eclipsing binaries using eclipse minima timing, and extrasolar moons around transiting planets using transit timing, offered by the upcoming COROT (ESA, 2005), Kepler (NASA, 2007), and Eddington (ESA 2008) spacecraft missions. Hundreds of circum-binary planets should be discovered, and a thorough survey of moons around transiting planets will be accomplished by these missions.

Determination of the size, mass, and density of "exomoons" from photometric transit timing variations

Precise photometric measurements of the upcoming space missions allow the size, mass, and density of satellites of exoplanets to be determined. Here we present such an analysis using the photometric transit timing variation (TTV_p). We examined the light curve effects of both the transiting planet and its satellite. We define the photometric central time of the transit that is equivalent to the transit of a fixed photocenter. This point orbits the barycenter, and leads to the photometric transit timing variations. The exact value of TTV_p depends on the ratio of the density, the mass, and the size of the satellite and the planet. Since two of those parameters are independent, a reliable estimation of the density ratio leads to an estimation of the size and the mass of the exomoon. Upper estimations of the parameters are possible in the case when an upper limit of TTV_p is known. In case the density ratio cannot be estimated reliably, we propose an approximation with assuming equal densities. The presented photocenter TTV_p analysis predicts the size of the satellite better than the mass. We simulated transits of the Earth-Moon system in front of the Sun. The estimated size and mass of the Moon are 0.020 Earth-mass and 0.274 Earth-size if equal densities are assumed. This result is comparable to the real values within a factor of 2. If we include the real density ratio (about 0.6), the results are 0.010 Earth-Mass and 0.253 Earth-size, which agree with the real values within 20%.


So it looks like detection of sufficiently large exomoons via transit timing with both CoRoT and Kepler should be possible, if they exist.
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- imran   Kepler Mission   Sep 24 2005, 04:23 PM
- - Mongo   One unexpected (to me) fact is that using a planet...   Mar 12 2009, 02:48 PM
- - Vultur   When will Kepler begin to actually observe stars?   Mar 12 2009, 07:58 PM
- - Mongo   According to the Kepler twitter site, it will be a...   Mar 12 2009, 08:05 PM
- - Stu   Anyone wanting to read some background info about ...   Mar 12 2009, 10:27 PM
|- - ustrax   You're too kind my collab...friend... Vultu...   Mar 12 2009, 11:17 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (Stu @ Mar 12 2009, 10:27 PM) Beyon...   Mar 12 2009, 11:33 PM
- - PhilCo126   I'll second that... superb blog Ustrax !...   Mar 13 2009, 10:11 AM
|- - ustrax   Thanks, having Stu on the crew makes it worth of a...   Mar 13 2009, 10:50 AM
- - Syrinx   Thw twitter feed states that the photometer was sw...   Mar 13 2009, 06:03 PM
- - HughFromAlice   Testing: The complexity of modern spacecraft is am...   Mar 14 2009, 10:01 PM
- - Stu   Planning on incorporating Kepler's mission int...   Mar 15 2009, 12:22 PM
|- - Hungry4info   QUOTE (Stu @ Mar 15 2009, 06:22 AM) Plann...   Mar 15 2009, 04:51 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Interesting question. The Exoplanets Forum migh...   Mar 15 2009, 05:58 PM
- - Hungry4info   I looked at the 3d worlds atlas at the Planet Ques...   Mar 16 2009, 12:36 AM
- - dmuller   Early release version of the Kepler realtime simul...   Mar 16 2009, 06:04 AM
- - PhilCo126   Interesting to find out where & when the Keple...   Mar 16 2009, 10:17 AM
|- - ustrax   If you guys have any question regarding the missio...   Mar 16 2009, 10:24 AM
- - PhilCo126   http://astronomynow.com/090309DavidKochInterview.h...   Mar 17 2009, 08:37 AM
|- - HughFromAlice   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Mar 17 2009, 06:07 PM)...   Mar 26 2009, 10:29 PM
|- - AndyG   Hi Hugh, I notice that he goes on to say it's...   Mar 27 2009, 09:02 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (AndyG @ Mar 27 2009, 09:02 AM) As ...   Mar 28 2009, 08:08 PM
- - Stu   re. an all sky map of exoplanet locations... What...   Mar 20 2009, 06:44 AM
- - PhilCo126   Thanks for pointing out this blog Stu Hope You...   Mar 20 2009, 11:01 AM
- - Stu   Some very useful Kepler- and exoplanet-related dow...   Mar 21 2009, 05:07 PM
|- - ustrax   The answers to the great questions that some of yo...   Mar 23 2009, 12:06 PM
|- - ustrax   Just got word from Natalie Batalha saying that the...   Mar 24 2009, 08:31 PM
|- - Syrinx   QUOTE (ustrax @ Mar 24 2009, 12:31 PM) Ju...   Mar 25 2009, 07:00 AM
|- - ustrax   Syrinx, according to Batalha, it took longer than ...   Mar 25 2009, 08:11 AM
- - PhilCo126   Keep us posted on the dust cover jettison   Mar 26 2009, 08:32 AM
|- - ustrax   FIRST LIGHT!...Slow down ustrax... Kepler is...   Mar 26 2009, 03:28 PM
- - belleraphon1   KEPLER went into limited safe mode on March 23.......   Apr 1 2009, 02:39 PM
- - imipak   Well, it's nice to know safe mode works proper...   Apr 1 2009, 06:40 PM
|- - ustrax   Kepler’s cover ejection will, most probably, take ...   Apr 1 2009, 09:15 PM
- - belleraphon1   Dust cover soon... space science takes patience......   Apr 2 2009, 11:13 PM
|- - ustrax   Looks like, if everything goes well, that today is...   Apr 7 2009, 07:05 AM
- - Syrinx   http://kepler.nasa.gov/about/news.html 2009 April...   Apr 8 2009, 04:39 AM
- - Greg Hullender   Ejected successfully! http://www.spaceflightn...   Apr 8 2009, 05:07 AM
- - lyford   Success! QUOTE News release: 2009-065 ...   Apr 8 2009, 05:13 AM
|- - ustrax   Bring us those brave new worlds Kepler!   Apr 8 2009, 08:44 AM
|- - MahFL   Anyone know how thick the "wire" was and...   Apr 8 2009, 05:31 PM
- - belleraphon1   KEPLER is close to starting its science mission......   Apr 8 2009, 11:50 PM
- - Vultur   According to this Planetary Society blog entry abo...   Apr 9 2009, 02:46 AM
|- - ustrax   It's FULL of stars!!! http://be...   Apr 16 2009, 05:01 PM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (ustrax @ Apr 16 2009, 05:01 PM) It...   Apr 17 2009, 03:43 PM
- - Decepticon   A reconfirmation of TrES-2 would be nice first bit...   Apr 17 2009, 03:55 PM
|- - tacitus   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Apr 17 2009, 10:55 AM...   Apr 21 2009, 04:31 AM
|- - Syrinx   QUOTE (tacitus @ Apr 20 2009, 08:31 PM) S...   Apr 21 2009, 06:41 PM
|- - ustrax   Drink southwesterner hollow fog grog   May 27 2009, 06:24 AM
- - remcook   Well, there's a transit every few days, so the...   Apr 17 2009, 06:47 PM
- - Astro0   Just for your amusement... Seems as if Kepler has ...   Apr 17 2009, 10:13 PM
|- - Syrinx   FULL INLINE QUOTE REMOVED - ADMIN Plenty of fail ...   Apr 18 2009, 04:24 AM
- - Decepticon   If TrES 2 Had any moons would that be detectable?   Apr 22 2009, 08:05 AM
- - Holder of the Two Leashes   Moons would appear in the transit data if they wer...   Apr 22 2009, 02:54 PM
- - Syrinx   http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/kepler/n...m-200...   Apr 25 2009, 08:23 AM
- - Holder of the Two Leashes   In an earlier reply I made to Deception's ques...   Apr 26 2009, 09:44 PM
- - Mongo   I would have thought that the main technique for d...   Apr 26 2009, 09:54 PM
- - Holder of the Two Leashes   Again, I really don't know. But my understand...   Apr 26 2009, 10:29 PM
- - Hungry4info   It's very unlikely TrES-2 b has any detectable...   Apr 27 2009, 12:21 AM
- - Mongo   I am sure that you are right, for that reason. An...   Apr 27 2009, 03:47 PM
- - Holder of the Two Leashes   As I mentioned earlier, any moon of Tres-2 would h...   Apr 27 2009, 05:02 PM
- - Mongo   The math looks good to me. Perhaps a more product...   Apr 27 2009, 05:57 PM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   According to the last mission manager report, they...   May 11 2009, 08:31 PM
- - Syrinx   http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/kepler/n...m-200...   May 6 2009, 11:39 PM
- - Syrinx   http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/kepler/n...m-200...   May 8 2009, 06:31 AM
- - Holder of the Two Leashes   The hunt is now underway! Best wishes for suc...   May 13 2009, 06:39 PM
|- - tacitus   Indeed. I guess we're entering the "hurr...   May 13 2009, 08:45 PM
|- - Drkskywxlt   QUOTE (tacitus @ May 13 2009, 03:45 PM) I...   May 14 2009, 12:07 AM
- - MahFL   I believe they said it would take a while before E...   May 14 2009, 11:51 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (MahFL @ May 14 2009, 06:51 AM) ......   May 14 2009, 01:52 PM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   Here are a couple of web pages on the topic of exo...   Jun 4 2009, 04:14 PM
|- - ustrax   Infighters often reign.   Jun 9 2009, 06:48 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (ustrax @ Jun 9 2009, 08:48 AM) Inf...   Jun 9 2009, 08:05 AM
- - tacitus   From the latest Kepler Project Manager Update: QUO...   May 29 2009, 11:49 PM
- - Greg Hullender   They did say that the first science data would be ...   May 30 2009, 05:00 AM
- - nprev   I'd bet that it's more an abundance of cau...   May 30 2009, 07:01 AM
- - tacitus   Yeah, I was just kidding with the tease comment. ...   May 30 2009, 11:35 AM
- - Greg Hullender   More charitably, there's some chance they...   May 30 2009, 04:09 PM
|- - ustrax   Dandy sargent hunts with sonnet.   Jun 1 2009, 10:08 AM
- - imipak   QUOTE (ustrax @ May 27 2009, 07:24 AM) Dr...   Jun 1 2009, 08:17 PM
- - ngunn   What are they? Crossword clues? Sub-intelligible a...   Jun 1 2009, 09:26 PM
|- - Pavel   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jun 1 2009, 05:26 PM) What...   Jun 2 2009, 08:49 PM
|- - ustrax   Anagrams they are. Half hip mahatmas broken limit...   Jun 3 2009, 10:53 AM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (ustrax @ Jun 3 2009, 05:53 AM) Ana...   Jun 9 2009, 10:12 PM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (ustrax @ Jun 3 2009, 11:53 AM) Ana...   Jun 9 2009, 10:16 PM
- - hendric   Ha, I thought they were difficult phrases for Greg...   Jun 3 2009, 05:35 PM
- - belleraphon1   Spitzer warm mission will contribute to verifying ...   Jun 3 2009, 11:11 PM
- - remcook   I hate anagrams. I'll just wait till the offic...   Jun 9 2009, 11:04 AM
- - ngunn   Enter, offering insight (please!).   Jun 9 2009, 11:08 AM
- - Greg Hullender   Is anyone else ready for an anagram moratorium? O...   Jun 10 2009, 05:54 PM
|- - Syrinx   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jun 10 2009, 10:5...   Jun 10 2009, 08:53 PM
- - djellison   I'm with you Greg.   Jun 10 2009, 06:32 PM
- - Hungry4info   Same here. I've begun to realise that if you d...   Jun 10 2009, 07:19 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Jun 10 2009, 03:19 P...   Jun 10 2009, 07:50 PM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Jun 10 2009, 02:19 P...   Jun 10 2009, 08:06 PM
- - remcook   QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Jun 10 200...   Jun 11 2009, 07:25 AM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (remcook @ Jun 11 2009, 02:25 AM) U...   Jun 11 2009, 02:09 PM
- - belleraphon1   No anagrams please! I am neither pleased nor a...   Jun 11 2009, 01:33 PM
- - Syrinx   We're less than two days away from the first s...   Jun 16 2009, 10:18 PM
- - Holder of the Two Leashes   First, everything is OK, and the first precious lo...   Jun 21 2009, 08:22 PM
- - Syrinx   http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/kepler/n...m-200...   Jul 7 2009, 11:07 PM
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