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Nature 7th July '05, Tons of MER articles!!!
SkyeLab
post Jul 8 2005, 01:02 PM
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Hi Folks, try and track down a copy of the latest Nature, I think you will like it........
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( Volume 436 Number 7047, pp 1-150)

http://www.nature.com/nature/focus/marsrover/index.html

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mike
post Jul 17 2005, 06:49 AM
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I suppose just being published is enough, since you can put it on your resume..

Regardless, the editing staff needs to be paid, and the distribution staff, and the publishing staff, and the marketing staff, and whatever other departments I missed..

Honestly though I do download copyrighted things (no wait, I'm joking!, sorry RIAA/MPAA/whoever else), but I always buy them eventually if they're good. When I'm rich I'll buy everything and everyone will be happy.

When it comes to the written word, though, it somehow seems more unfair to 'pirate' it. I guess I personally just have more respect for writers than musicians and directors/actors/etc (although movies are written, but screenplay writers have it easy, and oh yeah, music lyrics, which technically make no sense 99% of the time).
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post Jul 17 2005, 09:25 AM
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OK, so let's see, I write to Nature and ask to purchase a copy to read the early MER findings.

They write back, telling me I need to buy a year's subscription.

I try to buy a year's subscription, and they tell me that they are an industry-specific publication, and I must *prove* that I am in a field that requires a subscription to their magazine...

I don't know for sure that Nature would follow this policy, but I *do* know that AW&ST does. As do several other periodicals that publish results from NASA probes.

Tell me I'm doing something unethical trying to get access to something that *I have paid for* (with my taxes) when the publishers, when I offer them money, refuse on the grounds that I don't buy the products their advertisers are advertising... at that point, I say that the publishers are acting unethically and any distribution "behind their backs" is not only justified, they asked for it...

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post Jul 17 2005, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jul 17 2005, 09:25 AM)
er periodicals that publish results from NASA probes.

Tell me I'm doing something unethical trying to get access to something that *I have paid for* (with my taxes) when the publishers, when I offer them money, refuse on the grounds that I don't buy the products their advertisers are advertising... at that point, I say that the publishers are acting unethically and any distribution "behind their backs" is not only justified, they asked for it...

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The problem is that Nature and many other journals don't get any of that funding. So someone has to pay for the production.


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- SkyeLab   Nature 7th July '05   Jul 8 2005, 01:02 PM
- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (SkyeLab @ Jul 8 2005, 02:02 PM)Hi Folk...   Jul 8 2005, 01:53 PM
- - djellison   Can you just buy an edition of Nature? I think ha...   Jul 8 2005, 01:54 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 8 2005, 02:54 PM)Can y...   Jul 8 2005, 01:55 PM
|- - RGClark   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jul 8 2005, 01:55 PM)I thin...   Jul 8 2005, 03:32 PM
- - djellison   I just discovered that the collective IQ of the Bo...   Jul 8 2005, 02:13 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 8 2005, 03:13 PM)I jus...   Jul 8 2005, 03:33 PM
- - SkyeLab   Doug, You might be able to purchase from Nature d...   Jul 8 2005, 02:25 PM
- - ilbasso   Hey, can I infer from all these papers that the ro...   Jul 8 2005, 02:59 PM
- - djellison   Occasionally Doug   Jul 8 2005, 03:07 PM
- - Nix   The cost of one article is $30? I would ta...   Jul 8 2005, 03:09 PM
- - Tman   Hey Nico, perhaps you should close a deal with Nat...   Jul 8 2005, 03:25 PM
|- - jaredGalen   "Mars Exploration: It's not rover yet...   Jul 8 2005, 03:31 PM
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- - ktotam   I can send pdfs of articles if anyone's intere...   Jul 13 2005, 10:23 PM
|- - hubdel11   QUOTE (ktotam @ Jul 13 2005, 11:23 PM)I can s...   Jul 16 2005, 12:04 PM
- - Nix   you can? Nico   Jul 13 2005, 10:34 PM
|- - ktotam   QUOTE (NIX @ Jul 14 2005, 12:34 AM)you can? :...   Jul 13 2005, 10:48 PM
- - djellison   I'm not going to get all draconian - but techn...   Jul 16 2005, 12:14 PM
|- - Of counsel   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 16 2005, 12:14 PM)I...   Jul 16 2005, 05:16 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (Of counsel @ Jul 16 2005, 07:16 PM)No ...   Jul 16 2005, 05:43 PM
|- - mike   The problem is that every magazine needs to make m...   Jul 16 2005, 07:40 PM
- - TheChemist   The authors neither pay nor get paid. Publishing i...   Jul 16 2005, 10:10 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (TheChemist @ Jul 17 2005, 12:10 AM)The...   Jul 17 2005, 05:39 PM
- - mike   I suppose just being published is enough, since yo...   Jul 17 2005, 06:49 AM
|- - dvandorn   OK, so let's see, I write to Nature and ask to...   Jul 17 2005, 09:25 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jul 17 2005, 09:25 AM)er pe...   Jul 17 2005, 12:45 PM
- - djellison   In the old days pre-internet, I could understand t...   Jul 17 2005, 03:41 PM
- - TheChemist   tty, Page charges in the era of electronic publis...   Jul 17 2005, 06:02 PM


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