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MorrisJones
post Sep 23 2009, 05:19 AM
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This is a personal theory, explained in the article. Time will tell if I am right or wrong.

http://www.moondaily.com/reports/Argon_On_The_Moon_999.html

I don't know if argon deposits would be as useful as water, though.

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Greg Hullender
post Sep 23 2009, 05:15 PM
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Not sure if anyone has measaured argon narcosis at just one atmosphere, but since it's 2.3 times worse than nitrogen and some people seem to feel effects from nitrogen at less than three atmospheres, I'd guess that using argon instead of nitrogen would make the crew slightly stupider than normal.

An ion drive could use argon instead of xenon for fuel, of course, but it'd have even less thrust (athough better specific impulse).

Seems like more of a curiosity than anything useful -- any time soon, anyway. Someone might find a cool use for it, but I don't see anything obvious that would obviously work. :-)

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post Sep 23 2009, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Sep 23 2009, 06:15 PM) *
Not sure if anyone has measaured argon narcosis at just one atmosphere, but since it's 2.3 times worse than nitrogen and some people seem to feel effects from nitrogen at less than three atmospheres, I'd guess that using argon instead of nitrogen would make the crew slightly stupider than normal.


Interesting, though I don't find any mention of toxicity when looking around. For example this is from Wikipedia:

Although argon is non-toxic, it does not satisfy the body's need for oxygen and is thus an asphyxiant. Argon is 25% more dense than air and is considered highly dangerous in closed areas. It is also difficult to detect because it is colorless, odorless, and tasteless. In confined spaces, it is known to result in death due to asphyxiation.

And after all we breathe it all the time at 1 percent. Now that the question has cropped up I'm really curious to know one way or the other.
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- MorrisJones   Argon on the Moon?   Sep 23 2009, 05:19 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Well, if you can figure out how to use it for rock...   Sep 23 2009, 12:54 PM
- - ngunn   Maybe as a dilutant in the breathing mixture in pl...   Sep 23 2009, 01:02 PM
- - AndyG   Norman Foster will need it when his construction c...   Sep 23 2009, 01:51 PM
- - centsworth_II   This from the Wikipedia article is interesting: ...   Sep 23 2009, 05:01 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Not sure if anyone has measaured argon narcosis at...   Sep 23 2009, 05:15 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Sep 23 2009, 06:1...   Sep 23 2009, 07:01 PM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 23 2009, 12:01 PM) Int...   Sep 23 2009, 07:49 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Sep 23 2009, 08:4...   Sep 23 2009, 08:04 PM
|- - Vultur   QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 23 2009, 09:04 PM) Ah,...   Sep 24 2009, 03:09 AM
- - Juramike   Might be useful to explain how the volatiles got t...   Sep 23 2009, 05:27 PM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (Juramike @ Sep 23 2009, 09:27 AM) ...   Sep 23 2009, 05:57 PM
- - nprev   Question: Is there any practical way to determine ...   Sep 23 2009, 06:16 PM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 23 2009, 10:16 AM) Arg...   Sep 23 2009, 06:22 PM
- - nprev   Yeah, but vacuum's TOO good in some ways; disp...   Sep 23 2009, 06:45 PM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 23 2009, 11:45 AM) . ....   Sep 23 2009, 08:06 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Sep 23 2009, 09:0...   Sep 23 2009, 08:10 PM
- - Juramike   Argon will sit heavily in your lungs if you breath...   Sep 23 2009, 07:07 PM
- - ngunn   QUOTE (Juramike @ Sep 23 2009, 08:07 PM) ...   Sep 23 2009, 07:44 PM
- - stevesliva   QUOTE (Juramike @ Sep 23 2009, 02:07 PM) ...   Sep 23 2009, 10:21 PM


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