Water on the Moon, Data from multiple missions seems to indicate... |
Water on the Moon, Data from multiple missions seems to indicate... |
 Sep 24 2009, 12:23 AM
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This probably deserves it's own thread. Seems the evidence is not specific to only one mission...
space.com article: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0909...-discovery.html -------------------- Some higher resolution images available at my photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/
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Sep 26 2009, 01:01 PM
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The solar wind aetiology is certainly interesting, but practical just doesn't come into it.
Apart from the basic arithmetic about theoretical water yield per square meter and energy required to extract it Doug provided, what would such a vehicle look like? Here's an approximate terrestrial analogue, running at a few km/h, taking the top inch or two of a surface and dumping it harvester-style into a following tender (note: no further processing happens at this stage.) These things mass in the order of 20-30 tons, and of course need regular teardown maintenance and rebuild (neglecting the tender and other supporting infrastructure.) What would a soft-landing of a self-repairing, self-powered, autonomous version of such a machine on the moon look like, as a back-of-a-fag-packet concept? Mars, on the other hand,.. is another thread 
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Juramike Water on the Moon Sep 24 2009, 12:23 AM
belleraphon1 From the AP
"Three different space probes fo... Sep 24 2009, 01:10 AM ElkGroveDan I'd say the timing is now ripe for another ann... Sep 24 2009, 02:56 AM
centsworth_II QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Sep 23 2009, 09:56 P... Sep 24 2009, 04:18 AM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Sep 23 2009, 09:18... Sep 24 2009, 05:09 AM centsworth_II QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Sep 24 2009, 01:09 A... Sep 24 2009, 05:20 AM elakdawalla There are two more papers, one by Sunshine et al f... Sep 24 2009, 03:55 AM Astro0 Dan, We've had the "water on Mars" l... Sep 24 2009, 04:03 AM nprev ...killer, Astro0!
Suspect that this will all... Sep 24 2009, 04:22 AM Doc According to SpaceRef.com, NASA hadn't yet rel... Sep 24 2009, 12:02 PM djellison I can only find ISS data from Cassini for the eart... Sep 24 2009, 12:35 PM centsworth_II QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 24 2009, 07:35 AM)... Sep 24 2009, 05:49 PM Greg Hullender QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Sep 24 2009, 09:49... Sep 24 2009, 07:14 PM remcook It must be VIMS data.
I could be very wrong, but f... Sep 24 2009, 01:12 PM elakdawalla It is VIMS data, and it is in the PDS. One proble... Sep 24 2009, 01:41 PM Phil Stooke I'm giving up on predicting anything - well, e... Sep 24 2009, 01:53 PM Doc Might be safe to say that this discovery could be ... Sep 24 2009, 02:30 PM elakdawalla Hey, Gordan pointed out to me that he already play... Sep 24 2009, 03:09 PM Zvezdichko http://www.isro.org/news/scripts/Sep24_2009.aspx
... Sep 24 2009, 03:14 PM ugordan I revisited the IR channels from the same 4 source... Sep 24 2009, 04:46 PM djellison QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Sep 24 2009, 04:14 PM... Sep 24 2009, 05:47 PM elakdawalla QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 24 2009, 09:47 AM)... Sep 24 2009, 05:58 PM djellison QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Sep 24 2009, 06:58 P... Sep 24 2009, 06:48 PM volcanopele Interesting finding. A similar absorption band at... Sep 24 2009, 05:45 PM Zvezdichko Scientist: The Moon is very dry. If we have to ext... Sep 24 2009, 06:06 PM Zvezdichko A crater and one of the charts which shows water p... Sep 24 2009, 06:15 PM Zvezdichko Looks like they did it after the information leake... Sep 24 2009, 06:51 PM djellison QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Sep 24 2009, 07:51 PM... Sep 24 2009, 07:26 PM Phil Stooke One litre per cubic metre... that sounds way too m... Sep 24 2009, 07:43 PM djellison Like Greg - I'll say up front, I hope I've... Sep 24 2009, 08:39 PM nprev QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 24 2009, 01:39 PM)... Sep 24 2009, 11:56 PM Greg Hullender Are you sure the water is limited to the top 2 mm ... Sep 25 2009, 01:45 AM djellison QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Sep 25 2009, 02:4... Sep 25 2009, 06:46 AM marsbug The universe today article mentions that ejecta fr... Sep 25 2009, 12:01 PM Paolo They are on Sciencexpress http://www.sciencemag.or... Sep 25 2009, 06:17 AM glennwsmith Say what you will about the quantities involved, w... Sep 25 2009, 01:34 PM Greg Hullender QUOTE (glennwsmith @ Sep 25 2009, 06:34 A... Sep 25 2009, 04:43 PM djellison Sorry - I just don't seen enough to get excite... Sep 25 2009, 01:50 PM Juramike Both are very cool. But I think the lunar discove... Sep 25 2009, 01:59 PM Phil Stooke "Stu, doesn't TS Eliot have a line about ... Sep 25 2009, 01:59 PM belleraphon1 For those of us older than Apollo, this is indeed ... Sep 25 2009, 03:38 PM Vultur Does this data show anything about ice in the perm... Sep 25 2009, 04:45 PM elakdawalla No, almost by definition. All these data are from... Sep 25 2009, 04:58 PM Enceladus75 This is indeed a pretty astounding discovery that ... Sep 26 2009, 12:13 AM Reed QUOTE (Enceladus75 @ Sep 25 2009, 05:13 P... Sep 26 2009, 01:00 AM belleraphon1 What a beautiful result.
Was there not a mention ... Sep 26 2009, 12:39 AM ngunn QUOTE (belleraphon1 @ Sep 26 2009, 01:39 ... Sep 26 2009, 09:35 AM Juramike I wonder if MS analysis could help show where the ... Sep 26 2009, 12:57 PM Fran Ontanaya As a curiousity, would water ice survive a lunar d... Sep 26 2009, 09:59 PM Holder of the Two Leashes QUOTE (Fran Ontanaya @ Sep 26 2009, 03:59... Sep 27 2009, 07:19 PM remcook A question (can't access the articles right no... Sep 26 2009, 01:12 PM elakdawalla I think people got confused about that -- the dept... Sep 26 2009, 02:04 PM centsworth_II QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Sep 26 2009, 10:04 A... Sep 26 2009, 04:55 PM glennwsmith . . . "lunar weather" . . . "toilet... Sep 26 2009, 03:24 PM Juramike QUOTE (glennwsmith @ Sep 26 2009, 10:24 A... Sep 26 2009, 05:03 PM Zvezdichko ... I wonder what the name of this forum is. Sep 26 2009, 03:29 PM glennwsmith Juramike, thanks for making the connection! Y... Sep 26 2009, 08:23 PM MarsIsImportant The solar wind idea is an interesting one. It mig... Sep 26 2009, 09:25 PM nprev Not to be a wet blanket about the whole lunar wate... Sep 26 2009, 11:48 PM Greg Hullender QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 26 2009, 04:48 PM) So.... Sep 27 2009, 04:31 AM Phil Stooke That sounds about right to me. After the first co... Sep 27 2009, 07:37 PM Stu Lots of interesting blog posts re. the "water... Sep 28 2009, 04:51 PM Paolo The series of "water on the Moon" paper ... Oct 23 2009, 07:19 PM |
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