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Cugel
post Jul 18 2005, 04:03 PM
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Does anybody know how much time Oppy actually can spend on driving on a single sol?

I remember that when she travelled from Eagle to Endurance crater it was no more than 1.5 hours per sol (or so), due to power limitations. I have no idea what the current power situation and battery status of Oppy allows these days...
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glennwsmith
post Jul 20 2005, 05:35 AM
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I didn't intend to jump into this discussion about solar cell cleaning, but if you wiggle a lure in front of a fish long enough, somethimes it will strike out of frustration.

At any rate, aren't the solar cell panels equipped with hinges and motors that lowered them into a horizontal position in the first place? And if so (and I don't mean on this mission), wouldn't it be possible to use this same mechanism to raise the solar panels back to a vertical position -- perhaps several times -- to at least shake off much of the dust?

I realize this is a stupid idea, so someone please set me straight.

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Marcel
post Jul 20 2005, 06:06 AM
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QUOTE (glennwsmith @ Jul 20 2005, 05:35 AM)
I didn't intend to jump into this discussion about solar cell cleaning, but if you wiggle a lure in front of a fish long enough, somethimes it will strike out of frustration.

At any rate, aren't the solar cell panels equipped with hinges and motors that lowered them into a horizontal position in the first place?  And if so (and I don't mean on this mission), wouldn't it be possible to use this same mechanism to raise the solar panels back to  a vertical position -- perhaps several times -- to at least shake off much of the dust?

I realize this is a stupid idea, so someone please set me straight.

Glenn
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Hey you, it's a stupid idea ! laugh.gif
No, seriously, the participants in this discussion (which know a hell of a lot about the machines) stated, that the amount of energy from the arrays is not going to be the bottleneck. I might as well go for that opinion, since, indeed, after almost 550 sols of ops., there's STILL no reason to be concerned about the dust on the solar panels. Next year there will be, probably, but what the heck, we will have had such a treamendous amount of data......we should be satisfied.

If, however, both rovers would have ended after 100 sols (just after primairy mission) due to dust cover on the arrays, I AM SURE the next solar powered rovers would be equipped WITH a cleaning system.

But the great experience they have now with the energy budget of these two sweeties does not require elaborate effort for that.

Better to invest in optimization of EDL, RTG's, instrumentation and mobility performance for the next generation rovers.......

Marcel.
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- Cugel   How Much Driving Time?   Jul 18 2005, 04:03 PM
- - djellison   About the same - perhaps a little less. Remember ...   Jul 18 2005, 04:17 PM
- - RNeuhaus   I guess that the driving speed will be much slower...   Jul 18 2005, 05:04 PM
|- - helvick   Peak theoretical insolation would have been around...   Jul 18 2005, 05:36 PM
|- - Nirgal   there was a very interesting analysis of the Rover...   Jul 18 2005, 07:35 PM
- - Cugel   Thanks all! So, if I got this right, with nuc...   Jul 18 2005, 09:22 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (Cugel @ Jul 18 2005, 04:22 PM)Thanks a...   Jul 18 2005, 09:30 PM
|- - Nirgal   QUOTE (Cugel @ Jul 18 2005, 11:22 PM)Well, I ...   Jul 19 2005, 12:01 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Jul 19 2005, 12:01 AM)it woul...   Jul 19 2005, 07:16 AM
|- - Jeff7   QUOTE (Marcel @ Jul 19 2005, 02:16 AM)Let our...   Jul 19 2005, 12:25 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (Jeff7 @ Jul 19 2005, 12:25 PM)If the c...   Jul 19 2005, 12:51 PM
|- - abalone   QUOTE (Marcel @ Jul 19 2005, 11:51 PM)maybe a...   Jul 19 2005, 01:17 PM
|- - um3k   QUOTE (Marcel @ Jul 19 2005, 08:51 AM)By the ...   Jul 19 2005, 02:49 PM
- - mike   It would be nice if people at large weren't so...   Jul 18 2005, 10:15 PM
|- - jaredGalen   Todays flight director report mentions that the po...   Jul 18 2005, 11:38 PM
- - djellison   Basically the mass, volume and money spent on a sy...   Jul 19 2005, 07:54 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 19 2005, 07:54 AM)Basi...   Jul 19 2005, 08:22 AM
- - djellison   A combo of RTG's and Solar Arrays doesnt make ...   Jul 19 2005, 08:32 AM
- - edstrick   Every time you wish for a solar panel cleaning sys...   Jul 19 2005, 08:36 AM
|- - Nirgal   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jul 19 2005, 10:36 AM)Every...   Jul 19 2005, 09:08 AM
|- - dvandorn   A "windscreen wiper" (or "windshiel...   Jul 19 2005, 09:55 AM
|- - Marcel   Right, i agree on almost everything said. Except: ...   Jul 19 2005, 10:07 AM
|- - dvandorn   It's not necessarily linear -- the easiest way...   Jul 19 2005, 10:48 AM
- - edstrick   "Simple".... Only if the configuration o...   Jul 19 2005, 09:38 AM
- - edstrick   AMEN-squared with DVandorn's comments. The ro...   Jul 19 2005, 10:54 AM
|- - Marcel   We were talking about trying to find a simple, pos...   Jul 19 2005, 11:31 AM
|- - akuo   QUOTE (Marcel @ Jul 19 2005, 11:31 AM)It...   Jul 19 2005, 11:47 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (akuo @ Jul 19 2005, 11:47 AM)Yes. The ...   Jul 19 2005, 12:08 PM
- - djellison   Are you suggesting shot-blasting the solar arrays ...   Jul 19 2005, 11:51 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 19 2005, 11:51 AM)Are ...   Jul 19 2005, 12:15 PM
- - Analyst   QUOTE If the computer animation of the rover's...   Jul 19 2005, 12:33 PM
- - djellison   And look at the power trend - essentially sustaina...   Jul 19 2005, 01:18 PM
|- - AoftheN   A simple dust removal mechanism maybe isn't su...   Jul 19 2005, 01:30 PM
- - djellison   To enable the IDD to reach the whole of the solar ...   Jul 19 2005, 01:36 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 19 2005, 01:36 PM)To e...   Jul 19 2005, 01:54 PM
|- - Edward Schmitz   QUOTE (Marcel @ Jul 19 2005, 06:54 AM)...It m...   Jul 19 2005, 02:15 PM
- - Analyst   If there is no sun at all (in northern winter), yo...   Jul 19 2005, 02:12 PM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE it will accumulate dust anyway: just like si...   Jul 19 2005, 02:26 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Jul 19 2005, 02:26 PM)Ar...   Jul 19 2005, 02:35 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Interesting discussions about different options on...   Jul 19 2005, 02:49 PM
|- - rschare   Isn't this all kind of a moot point? I thou...   Jul 19 2005, 05:13 PM
|- - helvick   The "To Clean or Not To Clean" discussio...   Jul 19 2005, 07:03 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (helvick @ Jul 19 2005, 07:03 PM)Phoeni...   Jul 20 2005, 12:40 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jul 20 2005, 12:40 PM)True....   Jul 20 2005, 12:58 PM
|- - um3k   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jul 20 2005, 08:40 AM)True....   Jul 20 2005, 03:23 PM
- - glennwsmith   I didn't intend to jump into this discussion a...   Jul 20 2005, 05:35 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (glennwsmith @ Jul 20 2005, 05:35 AM)I ...   Jul 20 2005, 06:06 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (glennwsmith @ Jul 20 2005, 05:35 AM)At...   Jul 20 2005, 07:14 AM
- - edstrick   The dust is finer than talcum powder, way way too ...   Jul 20 2005, 08:05 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jul 20 2005, 08:05 AM)The d...   Jul 20 2005, 09:27 AM
|- - Jeff7   QUOTE (Marcel @ Jul 20 2005, 04:27 AM)I don...   Jul 20 2005, 03:39 PM
- - djellison   3360 Whrs - is a lot more than MER Doug   Jul 20 2005, 09:28 AM
- - RNeuhaus   About how much time driving will have MERx? No one...   Jul 20 2005, 05:16 PM
|- - ToSeek   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jul 20 2005, 05:16 PM)Oppy ...   Jul 20 2005, 08:14 PM
||- - um3k   QUOTE (ToSeek @ Jul 20 2005, 04:14 PM)Not rea...   Jul 20 2005, 08:26 PM
|||- - Jeff7   QUOTE (um3k @ Jul 20 2005, 03:26 PM)That soun...   Jul 21 2005, 03:34 PM
||- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (ToSeek @ Jul 20 2005, 03:14 PM)Not rea...   Jul 20 2005, 08:35 PM
||- - tty   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jul 20 2005, 10:35 PM)7) wh...   Jul 20 2005, 09:04 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jul 20 2005, 05:16 PM)I thi...   Jul 21 2005, 01:43 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (Marcel @ Jul 21 2005, 08:43 AM)What an...   Jul 21 2005, 06:55 PM
- - Burmese   The rovers are funded thru September 2006 (just pa...   Jul 20 2005, 05:49 PM
- - mike   I think the rovers will last forever. Go on, prov...   Jul 20 2005, 07:38 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (mike @ Jul 20 2005, 02:38 PM)I think t...   Jul 20 2005, 07:48 PM
- - tty   A note on the dangerous RTG's. They are pretty...   Jul 20 2005, 08:32 PM
- - edstrick   Um3k asked, regarding Phoenix: "They will at ...   Jul 21 2005, 07:46 AM
- - um3k   Thank you for your reply, edstrick. It was very in...   Jul 21 2005, 02:29 PM
- - Gonzz   From the Steven Sqyres update: "Oh yeah, and...   Jul 22 2005, 06:51 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (Gonzz @ Jul 22 2005, 06:51 AM)From the...   Jul 22 2005, 07:10 AM
- - edstrick   " So we are speculating what is the weakest p...   Jul 22 2005, 09:19 AM
- - Burmese   I see Steve's thoughts on the scenery in Merid...   Jul 22 2005, 12:55 PM
- - Bob Shaw   An interesting .PDF paper on the design criteria f...   Aug 17 2005, 08:42 PM


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