Titan's changing lakes |
Titan's changing lakes |
Jan 29 2009, 07:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
Today's big news?
http://ciclops.org/view/5471/CASSINI_FINDS...ILL_TITAN_LAKES Changes in the south polar region were announced late last year. Is there more to this story now?? |
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Nov 30 2009, 05:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3242 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
Where are the south polar dry lakes? What do you think those low, flat areas are in the RADAR sar data that match up with ISS dark areas? That being said, the north polar region seems to have more dedicated lake basins while the south pole has mostly opportunistic playas (though there are a few of those up north too).
As for Kraken Mare, again, I think it is still plausible that Mezzoramia is the south polar version of that sea. -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Nov 30 2009, 07:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 30-August 06 From: Moscow, Idaho Member No.: 1086 |
Where are the south polar dry lakes? What do you think those low, flat areas are in the RADAR sar data that match up with ISS dark areas? I think they're dark areas. They could be anything. If the ethane content of Kraken Mare is substantial, then there's just no way to move it around on seasonal timescales. Oded's Milankovic timescales, maybe. - Jason PS -- I can't even get a copy of this paper -- I guess we're not subscribed to Nature Geoscience here for some reason? |
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Nov 30 2009, 09:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
If the ethane content of Kraken Mare is substantial, then there's just no way to move it around If the lakebeds are porous maybe the ethane doesn't have to move between hemispheres on either timescale. When evaporation concentrates ethane in a lake it may be able to diffuse into the less concentrated subsurface alkanofer. Methane diffusing the other way would return to the lake, ensuring that evaporation could continue until the lake appears dry. Of course on this model you have to move even greater volumes of methane around - to lower not just the lakes but the surrounding alkanofer too. |
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Nov 30 2009, 09:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2785 Joined: 10-November 06 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 1345 |
Of course on this model you have to move even greater volumes of methane around - to lower not just the lakes but the surrounding alkanofer too. True. But if the subsurface is extremely porous, you may only need to move a small percentage of the overall amount to effect a large change in the base level. Picture a 1 km deep porous bed: 10% change would give you 100 m change in solvent level (ignoring volume of porous material). So while the absolute amount of methane to move from pole to pole is large, the relative amount compared to the (still unknown) subsurface reservoir could be fractional. -------------------- Some higher resolution images available at my photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/
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