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Phoenix - spring images, HiRISE views of Phoenix after the long, long winter
Phil Stooke
post Oct 26 2009, 02:14 PM
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Doug just said in another thread that he was looking for Phoenix in the new images and couldn't find it. Well, I love a challenge. So here it is:

Close-up:

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Context:

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Note that map-projected HiRISE images at this latitude are in polar stereographic projection, not a cylindrical projection. North is at the left.

You might not believe this, but by blinking layers like Clyde Tombaugh I think I can match numerous points, not just the hardware.

EDIT: I was a bit off. Correct locations are shown below.

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post Jan 12 2010, 05:29 PM
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Does anyone know what the cost/downside is of having Odyssey listening for Phoenix? If there is no cost, why are they waiting until the 18th? Why not start listening immediately whenever Odyssey passes over the Phoenix site? (that way we could determine if Phoenix made it throught the winter as soon as possible and maybe get interesting science results sooner).
Presumably they are delaying the start of the listening and then doing it for only 3 days because using the radio receiver on Odyessey must interfere with other instrumentation or data relay or power consumption or what? Does anyone know what makes using the radio receiver non-zero cost to operate?

Even if Phoenix does not have enought power now to wake up yet, continious listening (assuming it can be done for 'free') would allow us to know *when* Phoenix wakes up (if it ever does which is unlikely) which would be interesting to know.
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- Phil Stooke   Phoenix - spring images   Oct 26 2009, 02:14 PM
- - djellison   I had a go blinking layers, but didn't have an...   Oct 26 2009, 03:30 PM
- - Sunspot   WOW those images are so grainy.   Oct 26 2009, 03:36 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Yes, low light levels and hazy atmosphere made the...   Oct 26 2009, 04:38 PM
- - ilbasso   Looks good to me. I can see some of the same crac...   Oct 26 2009, 05:03 PM
- - centsworth_II   If a meter or two of frozen CO2 formed, I'm su...   Oct 26 2009, 05:32 PM
- - Phil Stooke   (Sorry Doug - I just noticed this thread should ha...   Oct 26 2009, 06:10 PM
- - elakdawalla   I moved it. Well spotted, Phil! I wondered w...   Oct 26 2009, 06:14 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Well spotted indeed! Good job indeed! Tu...   Oct 28 2009, 12:41 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Incidentally, I think, from the blinking approach,...   Oct 28 2009, 12:48 AM
- - elakdawalla   Thanks for the correction. I was desperately tryi...   Oct 28 2009, 12:54 AM
- - ElkGroveDan   What caused you to go back and reevaluate the loca...   Oct 28 2009, 02:38 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Emily! Phil   Oct 28 2009, 02:44 AM
- - Hungry4info   If the slightly darker region in the snow to the b...   Oct 28 2009, 11:54 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Oct 28 2009, 06:54 A...   Oct 30 2009, 02:22 AM
- - djellison   Via HiRISE on Twitter (always superbly informative...   Oct 28 2009, 12:34 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Emily made a really nice animation - well, I shoul...   Oct 28 2009, 07:36 PM
- - Hungry4info   Interesting idea, though with only patchy snow cov...   Oct 30 2009, 06:58 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Oct 30 2009, 01:58 A...   Oct 30 2009, 04:23 PM
|- - sgendreau   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Oct 30 2009, 09:23...   Oct 30 2009, 05:15 PM
- - Geert   The fact that the parachute and heatshield as yet ...   Oct 30 2009, 06:05 PM
- - djellison   A signal from MPL is a very very unlikely scenario...   Oct 30 2009, 09:09 PM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 30 2009, 01:09 PM)...   Oct 31 2009, 04:14 AM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 31 2009, 05:09 AM)...   Oct 31 2009, 05:19 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Geert @ Oct 31 2009, 05:19 AM) so ...   Oct 31 2009, 09:30 AM
- - Adonis   MRO has almost a polar orbit. Thus, within the sam...   Oct 31 2009, 05:21 PM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (Adonis @ Oct 31 2009, 10:21 AM) .....   Oct 31 2009, 06:04 PM
|- - Adonis   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Oct 31 2009, 07:0...   Nov 2 2009, 12:58 AM
- - imipak   QUOTE (Adonis @ Oct 31 2009, 06:21 PM) .....   Oct 31 2009, 06:21 PM
- - elakdawalla   "Safe mode" usually means no science, an...   Nov 2 2009, 03:00 AM
- - Adonis   OK. I was wrong at all. Efectively, the image I me...   Nov 2 2009, 06:22 PM
- - Hungry4info   Here's to wishing re-established contact with ...   Nov 3 2009, 01:09 PM
- - marsophile   Upcoming colloquium talk at the SETI Institute: ...   Nov 3 2009, 09:02 PM
- - climber   Did we see this one?: http://www.spaceflightnow.co...   Nov 5 2009, 09:24 AM
- - djellison   I'm assuming it's the same image Phil used...   Nov 5 2009, 09:58 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 5 2009, 10:58 AM) ...   Nov 5 2009, 10:10 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Yes, same one, and it was in Emily's animation...   Nov 5 2009, 11:47 AM
- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter has spotted the ...   Nov 5 2009, 03:13 PM
- - Phil Stooke   So there actually were two images, July and August...   Nov 5 2009, 03:18 PM
- - fredk   Curious story from Sky and Telescope. First the w...   Nov 10 2009, 05:43 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (fredk @ Nov 10 2009, 12:43 PM) ......   Nov 10 2009, 05:57 PM
- - Deimos   The coldest temperatures occurred/ended at the ver...   Nov 11 2009, 05:01 PM
- - vikingmars   For your perusal, here is an high resolution pictu...   Nov 14 2009, 02:26 PM
|- - djellison   Super resolution isn't really going to work wi...   Nov 14 2009, 02:52 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 14 2009, 03:52 PM)...   Nov 14 2009, 02:58 PM
- - Tman   A high resolution comparison in addition would be ...   Nov 14 2009, 02:39 PM
- - kimmie   Not the original poster but thanks for the tip dje...   Nov 23 2009, 09:24 AM
- - Hungry4info   Quick question. While I don't expect contact ...   Dec 14 2009, 03:40 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Dec 13 2009, 07:40 P...   Dec 14 2009, 06:04 AM
|- - Hungry4info   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 14 2009, 12:04 AM...   Dec 14 2009, 01:42 PM
- - nprev   Hopefully not too far OT, but is that UHF protocol...   Dec 14 2009, 06:13 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 13 2009, 10:13 PM) Hop...   Dec 14 2009, 07:01 AM
- - djellison   Active in either case - they will have to tell MRO...   Dec 14 2009, 02:05 PM
|- - mcaplinger   Per Mark Lemmon, http://www.met.tamu.edu/mars/laza...   Dec 14 2009, 02:26 PM
- - Hungry4info   Alright, thanks. Is either orbiter being used at t...   Dec 14 2009, 05:09 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Dec 14 2009, 09:09 A...   Dec 14 2009, 05:29 PM
- - elakdawalla   January is what Veronica McGregor told me.   Dec 14 2009, 05:32 PM
- - elakdawalla   NASA to Check for Unlikely Winter Survival of Mars...   Jan 11 2010, 11:49 PM
- - elakdawalla   Aha, I see what my problem was. I was trying to m...   Jan 12 2010, 12:27 AM
- - Hungry4info   Well at least one solar panel is still attached. T...   Jan 12 2010, 01:21 AM
- - James Sorenson   I have labeled in the attached image what I think ...   Jan 12 2010, 03:57 AM
- - remcook   That January Hirise image is stunning, with that c...   Jan 12 2010, 09:31 AM
|- - Sunspot   QUOTE (remcook @ Jan 12 2010, 09:31 AM) T...   Jan 12 2010, 04:56 PM
|- - Hungry4info   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jan 12 2010, 10:56 AM) I...   Jan 12 2010, 07:10 PM
- - climber   One image from jan 6th 2010 here: http://www.space...   Jan 12 2010, 02:00 PM
- - bgarlick   Does anyone know what the cost/downside is of havi...   Jan 12 2010, 05:29 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (bgarlick @ Jan 12 2010, 09:29 AM) ...   Jan 12 2010, 06:13 PM
- - Dominik   I don't know what the current sun angle is at ...   Jan 12 2010, 06:03 PM
- - MahFL   The 18th sounds like a good day to me, as it's...   Jan 12 2010, 06:26 PM
- - marsophile   Is the remaining frost at this point CO2 or H20?   Jan 12 2010, 06:33 PM
- - hendric   The other thing to think about is that the 18th is...   Jan 12 2010, 10:24 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (hendric @ Jan 12 2010, 02:24 PM) P...   Jan 13 2010, 12:14 AM
|- - Deimos   The 2008 use of "Lazarus mode" started w...   Jan 13 2010, 03:28 PM
|- - PaulM   QUOTE (Deimos @ Jan 13 2010, 03:28 PM) St...   Jan 13 2010, 05:05 PM
- - hendric   Are there any thoughts on making a lander, or perh...   Jan 13 2010, 03:51 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (hendric @ Jan 13 2010, 04:51 PM) A...   Jan 13 2010, 04:17 PM
- - Deimos   Yes, there are concepts out there. There are still...   Jan 13 2010, 05:00 PM
- - Deimos   One principle that guides my expectations is that ...   Jan 14 2010, 04:55 PM
- - hendric   If Phoenix does make it through Lazarus mode, coul...   Jan 14 2010, 10:24 PM
- - Deimos   Continuous sunlight could be a game changer, depen...   Jan 15 2010, 06:31 PM
- - Zvezdichko   Phoenix website was updated for a first time after...   Jan 16 2010, 02:23 PM
- - climber   So, today's the day!   Jan 18 2010, 10:42 PM
- - Dominik   I've checked the JPL and NASA sites and even t...   Jan 19 2010, 09:58 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Dominik @ Jan 19 2010, 04:58 PM) I...   Jan 19 2010, 11:58 PM
- - Dominik   Just a short update, for those who don't follo...   Jan 21 2010, 11:53 AM
|- - MahFL   Thank you for the update. One point though, Oddy d...   Jan 21 2010, 03:26 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   Oddy? I'm not sure that's an approved nic...   Jan 21 2010, 03:37 PM
- - Deimos   Yes, ODY hails, while theoretically PHX listens an...   Jan 21 2010, 05:00 PM
- - Dominik   I think, this is the last update from NASAJPL unti...   Jan 22 2010, 12:12 AM
- - vmcgregor   For the January attempts, Odyssey was only listeni...   Jan 22 2010, 10:41 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (vmcgregor @ Jan 22 2010, 02:41 PM)...   Jan 23 2010, 12:00 AM
- - vmcgregor   It's the way the Lazarus mode works. The sourc...   Jan 23 2010, 09:11 AM
- - marsophile   Assuming Phoenix in Lazarus mode initially goes th...   Jan 26 2010, 09:16 PM
- - Deimos   I don't know the details of the passes, but ex...   Jan 27 2010, 03:41 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Deimos @ Jan 26 2010, 07:41 PM) 30...   Jan 27 2010, 03:57 AM
- - Deimos   Having refreshed my memory, I have a bit more info...   Jan 27 2010, 04:09 PM
- - Deimos   Rumor has it the second ODY search is underway, wi...   Feb 23 2010, 03:05 PM
- - marsophile   http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010...   Feb 24 2010, 05:46 PM
- - Hungry4info   Not much ice in the area now. http://www.nasa.gov/...   Feb 27 2010, 10:20 AM
- - djellison   I can read it either way. The fact that there are...   Feb 27 2010, 11:10 AM
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