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Phoenix - spring images, HiRISE views of Phoenix after the long, long winter
Phil Stooke
post Oct 26 2009, 02:14 PM
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Doug just said in another thread that he was looking for Phoenix in the new images and couldn't find it. Well, I love a challenge. So here it is:

Close-up:

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Context:

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Note that map-projected HiRISE images at this latitude are in polar stereographic projection, not a cylindrical projection. North is at the left.

You might not believe this, but by blinking layers like Clyde Tombaugh I think I can match numerous points, not just the hardware.

EDIT: I was a bit off. Correct locations are shown below.

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post Jan 13 2010, 03:51 PM
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Are there any thoughts on making a lander, or perhaps rover, winter-survivable? Larger batteries with an integrated cutoff at mid-charge to survive a freezing? Solar panel petals on the ground, a la Beagle?


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- Phil Stooke   Phoenix - spring images   Oct 26 2009, 02:14 PM
- - djellison   I had a go blinking layers, but didn't have an...   Oct 26 2009, 03:30 PM
- - Sunspot   WOW those images are so grainy.   Oct 26 2009, 03:36 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Yes, low light levels and hazy atmosphere made the...   Oct 26 2009, 04:38 PM
- - ilbasso   Looks good to me. I can see some of the same crac...   Oct 26 2009, 05:03 PM
- - centsworth_II   If a meter or two of frozen CO2 formed, I'm su...   Oct 26 2009, 05:32 PM
- - Phil Stooke   (Sorry Doug - I just noticed this thread should ha...   Oct 26 2009, 06:10 PM
- - elakdawalla   I moved it. Well spotted, Phil! I wondered w...   Oct 26 2009, 06:14 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Well spotted indeed! Good job indeed! Tu...   Oct 28 2009, 12:41 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Incidentally, I think, from the blinking approach,...   Oct 28 2009, 12:48 AM
- - elakdawalla   Thanks for the correction. I was desperately tryi...   Oct 28 2009, 12:54 AM
- - ElkGroveDan   What caused you to go back and reevaluate the loca...   Oct 28 2009, 02:38 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Emily! Phil   Oct 28 2009, 02:44 AM
- - Hungry4info   If the slightly darker region in the snow to the b...   Oct 28 2009, 11:54 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Oct 28 2009, 06:54 A...   Oct 30 2009, 02:22 AM
- - djellison   Via HiRISE on Twitter (always superbly informative...   Oct 28 2009, 12:34 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Emily made a really nice animation - well, I shoul...   Oct 28 2009, 07:36 PM
- - Hungry4info   Interesting idea, though with only patchy snow cov...   Oct 30 2009, 06:58 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Oct 30 2009, 01:58 A...   Oct 30 2009, 04:23 PM
|- - sgendreau   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Oct 30 2009, 09:23...   Oct 30 2009, 05:15 PM
- - Geert   The fact that the parachute and heatshield as yet ...   Oct 30 2009, 06:05 PM
- - djellison   A signal from MPL is a very very unlikely scenario...   Oct 30 2009, 09:09 PM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 30 2009, 01:09 PM)...   Oct 31 2009, 04:14 AM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 31 2009, 05:09 AM)...   Oct 31 2009, 05:19 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Geert @ Oct 31 2009, 05:19 AM) so ...   Oct 31 2009, 09:30 AM
- - Adonis   MRO has almost a polar orbit. Thus, within the sam...   Oct 31 2009, 05:21 PM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (Adonis @ Oct 31 2009, 10:21 AM) .....   Oct 31 2009, 06:04 PM
|- - Adonis   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Oct 31 2009, 07:0...   Nov 2 2009, 12:58 AM
- - imipak   QUOTE (Adonis @ Oct 31 2009, 06:21 PM) .....   Oct 31 2009, 06:21 PM
- - elakdawalla   "Safe mode" usually means no science, an...   Nov 2 2009, 03:00 AM
- - Adonis   OK. I was wrong at all. Efectively, the image I me...   Nov 2 2009, 06:22 PM
- - Hungry4info   Here's to wishing re-established contact with ...   Nov 3 2009, 01:09 PM
- - marsophile   Upcoming colloquium talk at the SETI Institute: ...   Nov 3 2009, 09:02 PM
- - climber   Did we see this one?: http://www.spaceflightnow.co...   Nov 5 2009, 09:24 AM
- - djellison   I'm assuming it's the same image Phil used...   Nov 5 2009, 09:58 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 5 2009, 10:58 AM) ...   Nov 5 2009, 10:10 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Yes, same one, and it was in Emily's animation...   Nov 5 2009, 11:47 AM
- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter has spotted the ...   Nov 5 2009, 03:13 PM
- - Phil Stooke   So there actually were two images, July and August...   Nov 5 2009, 03:18 PM
- - fredk   Curious story from Sky and Telescope. First the w...   Nov 10 2009, 05:43 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (fredk @ Nov 10 2009, 12:43 PM) ......   Nov 10 2009, 05:57 PM
- - Deimos   The coldest temperatures occurred/ended at the ver...   Nov 11 2009, 05:01 PM
- - vikingmars   For your perusal, here is an high resolution pictu...   Nov 14 2009, 02:26 PM
|- - djellison   Super resolution isn't really going to work wi...   Nov 14 2009, 02:52 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 14 2009, 03:52 PM)...   Nov 14 2009, 02:58 PM
- - Tman   A high resolution comparison in addition would be ...   Nov 14 2009, 02:39 PM
- - kimmie   Not the original poster but thanks for the tip dje...   Nov 23 2009, 09:24 AM
- - Hungry4info   Quick question. While I don't expect contact ...   Dec 14 2009, 03:40 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Dec 13 2009, 07:40 P...   Dec 14 2009, 06:04 AM
|- - Hungry4info   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 14 2009, 12:04 AM...   Dec 14 2009, 01:42 PM
- - nprev   Hopefully not too far OT, but is that UHF protocol...   Dec 14 2009, 06:13 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 13 2009, 10:13 PM) Hop...   Dec 14 2009, 07:01 AM
- - djellison   Active in either case - they will have to tell MRO...   Dec 14 2009, 02:05 PM
|- - mcaplinger   Per Mark Lemmon, http://www.met.tamu.edu/mars/laza...   Dec 14 2009, 02:26 PM
- - Hungry4info   Alright, thanks. Is either orbiter being used at t...   Dec 14 2009, 05:09 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Dec 14 2009, 09:09 A...   Dec 14 2009, 05:29 PM
- - elakdawalla   January is what Veronica McGregor told me.   Dec 14 2009, 05:32 PM
- - elakdawalla   NASA to Check for Unlikely Winter Survival of Mars...   Jan 11 2010, 11:49 PM
- - elakdawalla   Aha, I see what my problem was. I was trying to m...   Jan 12 2010, 12:27 AM
- - Hungry4info   Well at least one solar panel is still attached. T...   Jan 12 2010, 01:21 AM
- - James Sorenson   I have labeled in the attached image what I think ...   Jan 12 2010, 03:57 AM
- - remcook   That January Hirise image is stunning, with that c...   Jan 12 2010, 09:31 AM
|- - Sunspot   QUOTE (remcook @ Jan 12 2010, 09:31 AM) T...   Jan 12 2010, 04:56 PM
|- - Hungry4info   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jan 12 2010, 10:56 AM) I...   Jan 12 2010, 07:10 PM
- - climber   One image from jan 6th 2010 here: http://www.space...   Jan 12 2010, 02:00 PM
- - bgarlick   Does anyone know what the cost/downside is of havi...   Jan 12 2010, 05:29 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (bgarlick @ Jan 12 2010, 09:29 AM) ...   Jan 12 2010, 06:13 PM
- - Dominik   I don't know what the current sun angle is at ...   Jan 12 2010, 06:03 PM
- - MahFL   The 18th sounds like a good day to me, as it's...   Jan 12 2010, 06:26 PM
- - marsophile   Is the remaining frost at this point CO2 or H20?   Jan 12 2010, 06:33 PM
- - hendric   The other thing to think about is that the 18th is...   Jan 12 2010, 10:24 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (hendric @ Jan 12 2010, 02:24 PM) P...   Jan 13 2010, 12:14 AM
|- - Deimos   The 2008 use of "Lazarus mode" started w...   Jan 13 2010, 03:28 PM
|- - PaulM   QUOTE (Deimos @ Jan 13 2010, 03:28 PM) St...   Jan 13 2010, 05:05 PM
- - hendric   Are there any thoughts on making a lander, or perh...   Jan 13 2010, 03:51 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (hendric @ Jan 13 2010, 04:51 PM) A...   Jan 13 2010, 04:17 PM
- - Deimos   Yes, there are concepts out there. There are still...   Jan 13 2010, 05:00 PM
- - Deimos   One principle that guides my expectations is that ...   Jan 14 2010, 04:55 PM
- - hendric   If Phoenix does make it through Lazarus mode, coul...   Jan 14 2010, 10:24 PM
- - Deimos   Continuous sunlight could be a game changer, depen...   Jan 15 2010, 06:31 PM
- - Zvezdichko   Phoenix website was updated for a first time after...   Jan 16 2010, 02:23 PM
- - climber   So, today's the day!   Jan 18 2010, 10:42 PM
- - Dominik   I've checked the JPL and NASA sites and even t...   Jan 19 2010, 09:58 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Dominik @ Jan 19 2010, 04:58 PM) I...   Jan 19 2010, 11:58 PM
- - Dominik   Just a short update, for those who don't follo...   Jan 21 2010, 11:53 AM
|- - MahFL   Thank you for the update. One point though, Oddy d...   Jan 21 2010, 03:26 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   Oddy? I'm not sure that's an approved nic...   Jan 21 2010, 03:37 PM
- - Deimos   Yes, ODY hails, while theoretically PHX listens an...   Jan 21 2010, 05:00 PM
- - Dominik   I think, this is the last update from NASAJPL unti...   Jan 22 2010, 12:12 AM
- - vmcgregor   For the January attempts, Odyssey was only listeni...   Jan 22 2010, 10:41 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (vmcgregor @ Jan 22 2010, 02:41 PM)...   Jan 23 2010, 12:00 AM
- - vmcgregor   It's the way the Lazarus mode works. The sourc...   Jan 23 2010, 09:11 AM
- - marsophile   Assuming Phoenix in Lazarus mode initially goes th...   Jan 26 2010, 09:16 PM
- - Deimos   I don't know the details of the passes, but ex...   Jan 27 2010, 03:41 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Deimos @ Jan 26 2010, 07:41 PM) 30...   Jan 27 2010, 03:57 AM
- - Deimos   Having refreshed my memory, I have a bit more info...   Jan 27 2010, 04:09 PM
- - Deimos   Rumor has it the second ODY search is underway, wi...   Feb 23 2010, 03:05 PM
- - marsophile   http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010...   Feb 24 2010, 05:46 PM
- - Hungry4info   Not much ice in the area now. http://www.nasa.gov/...   Feb 27 2010, 10:20 AM
- - djellison   I can read it either way. The fact that there are...   Feb 27 2010, 11:10 AM
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