(Paper) Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud? |
(Paper) Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud? |
 Apr 27 2010, 05:07 AM
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... a new confirmation of the "Nemesis" theory Persistent Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud |
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Apr 27 2010, 04:07 PM
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Some interesting points (this thing is over 40 pages long!)
1) They reject the "Nemesis" concept, saying the object couldn't cause "comet storms." 2) They want to name it "Tyche" for the good sister of Nemesis. 3) They're talking 1-4 MJ at 10,000 to 30,000 AU; to put that in perspective, note that even a probe like NH would take thousands of years get there. 4) It's inclined 133 degrees to the ecliptic, but they think the orbit's circular. 5) Depending on assumptions, they give as much as a 50% chance that this is an illusion caused by randomness in the observations. Within year, WISE will know. Gives us something to anticipate though. --Greg |
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Apr 27 2010, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Apr 27 2010, 11:07 AM)  Some interesting points (this thing is over 40 pages long!) --Greg Not to mention that it has Math in it. Math! I might, just might, read 40 pages of words and pictures. But Math - no way!  Thanks Greg |
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Apr 27 2010, 06:07 PM
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Yeah, why in the world would they use math in trying to determine whether the effects of a massive object in the Kuiper Belt are present?
 Next thing you know they will start using it in computing spacecraft trajectories.
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Apr 27 2010, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 27 2010, 02:07 PM) Yeah, why in the world would they use math in trying to determine whether the effects of a massive object in the Kuiper Belt are present? Because strong in them the force is not. |
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Paolo (Paper) Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud? Apr 27 2010, 05:07 AM
ngunn Much appreciated, thanks. Best of all the full art... Apr 27 2010, 07:45 AM Hungry4info I think calling it a "confirmation" is g... Apr 27 2010, 10:35 AM
Paolo QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Apr 27 2010, 12:35 P... Apr 27 2010, 04:57 PM Phil Stooke This certainly can't be called a confirmation,... Apr 27 2010, 12:02 PM Vultur I hope this works out, and that WISE finds the obj... Apr 28 2010, 08:29 PM Greg Hullender QUOTE (Vultur @ Apr 28 2010, 12:29 PM) Pr... Apr 28 2010, 09:26 PM ngunn Whether this object exists or not there is plenty ... Apr 27 2010, 10:46 PM nprev The merits of math aside, statistical inference is... Apr 27 2010, 10:47 PM alan This paper reminds me of an article I read in Sky ... Apr 28 2010, 12:49 AM Phil Stooke I was assuming that IR surveys - going right back ... Apr 28 2010, 01:15 AM nprev They do mention IRAS, and sort of artfully adjust ... Apr 28 2010, 02:37 AM Stu Great, something ELSE to add on to our Solar Syste... Apr 29 2010, 05:34 AM PFK QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 29 2010, 06:34 AM) Great... Apr 29 2010, 09:16 AM Stu Brilliant! Thanks PFK, you just scribbled one ... Apr 29 2010, 02:22 PM Big_Gazza Not wanting to inject controversy into this thread... Apr 29 2010, 11:57 PM brellis Wouldn't Jupiter have to be upgraded to ... Apr 30 2010, 12:15 AM Hungry4info I interpret the rule to mean that the object has t... Apr 30 2010, 12:42 AM Vultur What is the total mass of the Oort Cloud? I'm ... Apr 30 2010, 02:05 AM nprev I wouldn't be surprised it's vastly less t... Apr 30 2010, 02:12 AM Greg Hullender I see it estimated anywhere from 40 Earth masses t... Apr 30 2010, 02:31 AM brellis It gets a little confusing to hear about the Voyag... Oct 2 2010, 02:38 AM dmuller What's the Hillsphere of the Sun? Oct 2 2010, 07:37 AM centsworth_II QUOTE (dmuller @ Oct 2 2010, 02:37 AM) Wh... Oct 2 2010, 08:00 AM nprev I was going to ask why the radius of the Sun's... Oct 2 2010, 08:42 AM dmuller QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 2 2010, 06:42 PM) Sinc... Oct 4 2010, 11:41 PM centsworth_II Looking back to the previous page (621) to the pag... Oct 2 2010, 08:57 AM centsworth_II Flurry of tweets at #dps2010:
"Hal Levison p... Oct 4 2010, 06:57 PM brellis Is there a way to measure the 'wobble' of ... Oct 4 2010, 11:49 PM Lunik9 Interesting Tyche theory but different with the Ne... Oct 5 2010, 11:27 AM Greg Hullender QUOTE (Lunik9 @ Oct 5 2010, 03:27 AM) Int... Oct 5 2010, 04:08 PM qraal Another paper available on the arXiv which is germ... Dec 22 2010, 09:55 AM kap QUOTE (qraal @ Dec 22 2010, 01:55 AM) Ano... Jul 25 2011, 09:57 PM |
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