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MSL development & assembly, Until it's shipped to the Cape
climber
post Mar 29 2010, 08:11 PM
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In case you missed it there's 9 minutes on MSL (actual hardware visible) + 5 minutes with Dr Elachi on "This week in Space" there: http://www.spaceflightnow.com/
14 minutes out of 23 regarding Unmanned, not bad.


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post Jul 29 2010, 11:17 PM
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I admire their confidence. I hope it's warranted. I have no technical expertise to cast doubt on it.

If I were in their shoes, I'd have to be supremely confident to set my mission baseline at sampling so many targets. I'd rather aim lower, particularly with a never-flown before instrument and then have it overperform. Same way the MERs were only baselined for 600m and 3 months. Steve Squyres himself said in his book he thought they'd be able to go longer, but didn't want to oversell.

MOLA is not in the same class as ChemCam. MOLA had a much higher TRL when it flew with a long heritage. Although LIBS technology is well established, it has never flown in space before.
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post Jul 29 2010, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE (Drkskywxlt @ Jul 30 2010, 01:17 AM) *
I'd rather aim lower, particularly with a never-flown before instrument and then have it overperform.

The point is, what makes you think they aren't being conservative in their estimates?

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I have no technical expertise to cast doubt on it.

So why do it in the first place, then?


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- climber   MSL development & assembly   Mar 29 2010, 08:11 PM
- - punkboi   Looks like NASA is planning to launch MSL between ...   May 21 2010, 01:12 AM
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- - punkboi   NASA Dryden Hosts Radar Tests for Next Mars Landin...   Jun 12 2010, 01:33 AM
- - climber   Very nice topic actually. BTW, do we know the dead...   Jun 12 2010, 07:44 AM
- - punkboi   Spacecraft are usually sent to the Cape 3 months b...   Jun 12 2010, 06:11 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   If they want a really robust test location to simu...   Jun 12 2010, 07:14 PM
|- - StevenLee   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jun 12 2010, 12:14 P...   Jun 19 2010, 04:14 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   Great to have you aboard Steven. I tried to stop ...   Jun 19 2010, 04:30 AM
- - nprev   Do we know the means by which MSL will be sent to ...   Jun 12 2010, 11:51 PM
- - djellison   Oh - I don't think they've overlanded a sp...   Jun 13 2010, 12:05 AM
- - nprev   For some reason, I thought that the MERs went over...   Jun 13 2010, 12:12 AM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 12 2010, 08:12 PM) (I ...   Jun 13 2010, 01:35 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 12 2010, 07:12 PM) For...   Jun 13 2010, 02:59 AM
- - Enceladus75   Wasn't Galileo transported back and forth from...   Jun 13 2010, 01:52 AM
- - nprev   I think Galileo actually went back & forth bet...   Jun 13 2010, 02:39 AM
- - nprev   Probably. Time to reread that anyhow; thanks for t...   Jun 13 2010, 04:26 AM
|- - MahFL   What is the actual size of the HGAS ?   Jun 14 2010, 01:53 PM
- - djellison   HGAS?   Jun 14 2010, 03:18 PM
- - PDP8E   High Gain Antenna System????????? (thats all I hav...   Jun 14 2010, 04:50 PM
- - djellison   For those wanting the soft squishy counterpart to ...   Jun 19 2010, 05:57 AM
- - Sunspot   MSL with wheels attached http://www.aviationweek....   Jun 30 2010, 09:48 PM
- - James Sorenson   It looks so mean, and ready to take on anything th...   Jul 1 2010, 01:15 AM
|- - MahFL   "Weighing almost a ton, the nuclear-isotope-p...   Jul 1 2010, 01:04 PM
|- - charborob   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Jun 30 2010, 08:1...   Jul 1 2010, 06:23 PM
|- - James Sorenson   QUOTE (charborob @ Jul 1 2010, 11:23 AM) ...   Jul 2 2010, 12:04 AM
|- - helvick   Doug commented on this some time ago - MSL should...   Jul 2 2010, 12:20 AM
|- - MahFL   I doubt there can ever be a wheeled vehicle that c...   Jul 2 2010, 11:46 AM
|- - helvick   That's very true but MSL has the benefit of th...   Jul 2 2010, 06:31 PM
|- - tharrison   QUOTE (MahFL @ Jul 2 2010, 03:46 AM) I do...   Jul 2 2010, 06:36 PM
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|- - sgendreau   QUOTE (tharrison @ Jul 2 2010, 11:36 AM) ...   Jul 9 2010, 05:29 PM
|- - punkboi   QUOTE (sgendreau @ Jul 9 2010, 09:29 AM) ...   Jul 9 2010, 07:10 PM
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|- - toddbronco2   QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 13 2010, 05:21 PM) Awe...   Jul 14 2010, 03:22 PM
|- - charborob   Unnecessary quote removed Admin Translation: ...   Jul 14 2010, 04:03 PM
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- - djellison   Live a bit early - http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl ...   Jul 23 2010, 05:22 PM
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|- - djellison   QUOTE (Drkskywxlt @ Jul 29 2010, 07:53 AM...   Jul 29 2010, 04:18 PM
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