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Spirit - 2010 Winter@Troy, The first stationary science campaign
Astro0
post Feb 1 2010, 12:48 AM
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Well, with perhaps a few more weeks of tilt-enhancing drives to go and then settling in for the winter, I thought it might be a good time to have a thread dedicated to ideas and observations that will come. It's likely that we won't hear much from Spirit during the coldest part of winter (April-June) possibly longer. There'll hopefully be beeps to tell us that she's still alive.

Already there are plans for radio science and determining the fluidity or otherwise of the Martian core, plus weather observations, surface changes etc.
What else could you think of that Spirit could do? Remember that she's not going anywhere (vonBraun is out) wink.gif

In the meantime, have you sent your postcard to Spirit yet?! It's a great idea from the Mars outreach team.
http://beamartian.jpl.nasa.gov/spiritpostcards
What would you say to Spirit?
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post Mar 20 2011, 05:03 AM
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I think we need to distinguish between maximum noonday sun angle and maximum daily insolation. I don't know which is more important to Spirit's chances of waking up. It is correct that there are two times when the sun is overhead at noon from Spirit's 14-degree-south position, one before the solstice and one after. But during the time in between, the sun should overshoot the zenith at noon and describe a circle around it, so if Spirit's panels were pointed straight up, the average insolation per day should continue to increase until the solstice. I think that's the case anyway, but I admit I can't produce the trigonometry to prove it. Any ship's captains in the audience? It also seems to me that the fact that the panels actually point a few degrees south probably accentuates the solstice peaking of daily insolation even further.

But as far as the likelihood of Spirit's getting back in touch, the problem is far from symmetric. Each sol of increased insolation that goes by without a signal basically reduces the likelihood that Spirit's silence is due to insufficient sunlight. As you slide back down the autumnal side of the solstice, you know that you have have visited these intensity levels once already and they have not proved sufficient to solve the problem. (Yes there could be cumulative charging of the battery going on, but my practical experience with batteries here on earth kind of argues against that.)
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- Astro0   Spirit - 2010 Winter@Troy   Feb 1 2010, 12:48 AM
- - JayB   "NASA's Hibernating Mars Rover May Not Ca...   Jul 30 2010, 07:13 PM
- - PDP8E   Here is an image that Spirit took on Sol 2181 (a f...   Aug 15 2010, 05:08 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Nice work, PDP8E. I enjoyed seeing the soil and t...   Aug 18 2010, 05:15 AM
- - djellison   in 3 days time, we get the calibrated stuff up to ...   Aug 18 2010, 05:38 AM
- - Stu   While we wait for Spirit to wake up, yawning, from...   Aug 24 2010, 11:13 AM
- - jamescanvin   For those that want to reminisce, as well as Scott...   Aug 24 2010, 11:51 AM
- - James Sorenson   Here is the Calypso Panorama with the rover deck t...   Aug 24 2010, 12:19 PM
- - briv1016   I'm not sure exactly when this was posted, but...   Sep 16 2010, 10:36 PM
- - Ipparchus   I just read this interesting but pessimistic artic...   Nov 13 2010, 10:45 AM
- - Tom Gwilym   Ugh! I wonder when they will give up and giv...   Nov 13 2010, 06:21 PM
- - djellison   The situation lives under a bell curve, defined by...   Nov 13 2010, 06:24 PM
- - briv1016   Today is the Spring Equinox. Summer Solstice is n...   Nov 14 2010, 01:06 AM
- - brellis   A very long time from now, a DD might sweep her pa...   Nov 14 2010, 01:24 AM
- - hendric   I don't think the primary problem is lack of p...   Nov 14 2010, 04:57 AM
- - marsophile   The WEB has radio-isotope heater units (RHUs) so t...   Nov 20 2010, 01:10 AM
- - eoincampbell   "If you wish upon a star..." Sun and win...   Nov 20 2010, 06:20 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Can we read anything positive from this report fro...   Nov 21 2010, 05:03 AM
- - briv1016   This is the F (11th) version of this image. My gu...   Nov 21 2010, 06:47 AM
- - Hungry4info   The timestamp on the latest image is the same as t...   Nov 21 2010, 06:51 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Well, the time stamp would have to remain the same...   Nov 21 2010, 07:40 AM
- - HughFromAlice   30th Nov update at http://marsrover.nasa.gov/missi...   Dec 7 2010, 04:12 AM
|- - PaulM   I understand that when contact was lost with Vikin...   Dec 17 2010, 08:54 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (PaulM @ Dec 17 2010, 09:54 PM) De...   Jan 10 2011, 08:45 AM
- - marsophile   Is it considered likely at this point that the rov...   Dec 9 2010, 12:58 AM
- - Astro0   There are many possible scenarios, and as Scott an...   Dec 9 2010, 01:45 AM
- - nprev   Damn Facebook...I actually looked for the "li...   Dec 9 2010, 01:47 AM
- - fredk   Spirit map update for sol 2458. How sad. http://...   Dec 10 2010, 05:19 AM
- - PDP8E   Spirit's winter solstice was May 13,2010 We l...   Dec 17 2010, 09:09 PM
- - brellis   Hoping for a dust angel to wipe her plates clean...   Dec 17 2010, 09:40 PM
|- - ilbasso   QUOTE (brellis @ Dec 17 2010, 04:40 PM) H...   Jan 5 2011, 03:58 PM
- - vikingmars   Happy New Year 2011 dear Spirit with all our wish...   Jan 5 2011, 08:11 AM
- - Ipparchus   I`d like you to help me understand something. ...   Jan 8 2011, 11:22 AM
|- - helvick   I'm assuming that this refers to current avail...   Jan 9 2011, 08:35 PM
- - mars loon   hop for the best   Jan 8 2011, 03:01 PM
|- - tedstryk   http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/newsroom/pr.../2011...   Jan 8 2011, 03:35 PM
- - ngunn   I just want to applaud. That's a beautiful pi...   Jan 11 2011, 11:09 PM
- - climber   Very inspiring indeed Olivier, may Spirit ear you ...   Jan 11 2011, 11:51 PM
- - MerAB   It's Sol 2500 for Spirit!   Jan 14 2011, 11:25 AM
- - Astro0   2500 Sols....no one could have ever imagined it. ...   Jan 14 2011, 11:41 AM
- - machi   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Jan 11 2011, 11:17 PM...   Jan 14 2011, 12:12 PM
- - PDP8E   Wow Spirit! 2500 sols on mars! (Jan 14, 2...   Jan 14 2011, 06:01 PM
|- - serpens   QUOTE (PDP8E @ Jan 14 2011, 06:01 PM) Wow...   Jan 18 2011, 02:47 AM
- - Astro0   I think that the milestone is just that "2500...   Jan 18 2011, 05:59 AM
|- - ustrax   Tonight I dreamt Spirit had woken up. It was...nic...   Jan 18 2011, 11:23 AM
|- - Hungry4info   I've done that at least twice.   Jan 18 2011, 02:43 PM
|- - PaulM   I dreamt that I went for a walk around Home Plate ...   Jan 18 2011, 07:56 PM
- - Explorer1   I didn't want to make a new thread so I might ...   Jan 25 2011, 05:31 AM
- - djellison   The rules are fairly clear - you don't command...   Jan 25 2011, 06:30 AM
- - Zeke4ther   New Update from JPL: SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit Remai...   Feb 20 2011, 02:32 AM
- - PDP8E   The sun is now favorable at your tilt and bathing ...   Mar 12 2011, 06:22 PM
- - Tesheiner   I'm pretty sure most of UMSFers follow or at l...   Mar 12 2011, 06:49 PM
- - fredk   It's now almost a year since we lost contact. ...   Mar 19 2011, 03:27 PM
|- - Deimos   I don't know about the March 10 statement, or ...   Mar 19 2011, 06:11 PM
- - fredk   That's it, of course - my mind's stuck at ...   Mar 19 2011, 07:23 PM
- - tanjent   I think we need to distinguish between maximum noo...   Mar 20 2011, 05:03 AM
|- - helvick   This relatively old chart shows theoretical total ...   Mar 20 2011, 10:24 AM
- - marsophile   Of course, the daily duration of daylight is maxim...   Mar 21 2011, 07:31 PM
- - kenny   May I be controversial and say "forget it ......   Mar 24 2011, 09:43 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (kenny @ Mar 24 2011, 01:43 PM) May...   Mar 24 2011, 10:07 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (kenny @ Mar 24 2011, 01:43 PM) May...   Mar 24 2011, 10:41 PM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (kenny @ Mar 24 2011, 09:43 PM) May...   Mar 24 2011, 11:09 PM
||- - stevesliva   Spirit is Schrödinger's cat.   Mar 24 2011, 11:28 PM
|- - SFJCody   QUOTE (kenny @ Mar 25 2011, 07:43 AM) May...   Mar 24 2011, 11:47 PM
- - ilbasso   It's easier to prove the spacecraft is "a...   Mar 24 2011, 11:55 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (ilbasso @ Mar 25 2011, 12:55 AM) ....   Mar 25 2011, 09:17 AM
- - fredk   Indeed - isn't it possible that Spirit is alre...   Mar 25 2011, 12:20 AM
- - nprev   Happy thought: Really, any truly surprising news w...   Mar 25 2011, 01:58 AM
- - Phil Stooke   We can all hope for a signal... but I'm with K...   Mar 25 2011, 02:04 AM
|- - SFJCody   Let's not get diSpirited!   Mar 25 2011, 02:23 AM
- - Explorer1   What matters is the state of the antennas, the rov...   Mar 25 2011, 02:27 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Mar 24 2011, 06:27 PM)...   Mar 25 2011, 06:57 AM
- - eoincampbell   "until." Ain't over yet! Like...   Mar 25 2011, 03:29 AM
- - brellis   A cleaning event could come along at any time -- h...   Mar 25 2011, 06:36 AM
|- - PaulM   QUOTE (brellis @ Mar 25 2011, 06:36 AM) A...   Mar 26 2011, 07:57 AM
- - tanjent   Some people here may have influence over when the ...   Mar 25 2011, 07:28 AM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (tanjent @ Mar 25 2011, 07:28 AM) S...   Mar 25 2011, 08:54 AM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (Stu @ Mar 25 2011, 08:54 AM) we...   Mar 25 2011, 10:07 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (Stu @ Mar 25 2011, 10:07 AM) ...of...   Mar 29 2011, 08:57 PM
- - centsworth_II   RE: Spirit - 2010 Winter@Troy   Mar 25 2011, 01:14 PM
- - hendric   VikingMars, Your comment is in line with somethi...   Mar 25 2011, 02:12 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (hendric @ Mar 25 2011, 03:12 PM) T...   Mar 25 2011, 03:05 PM
- - kenny   Sorry to fire off an unpopular loose cannon, guys....   Mar 25 2011, 05:32 PM
- - brellis   Has staff already been reduced on a temporary basi...   Mar 26 2011, 05:43 AM
- - Bobby   If The Mer Team does go to a one rover operation. ...   Mar 26 2011, 05:45 AM
- - Hungry4info   As I recall, they'll continue to listen, but n...   Mar 26 2011, 06:12 AM
- - briv1016   This is from last months Mars Exploration Rovers U...   Mar 26 2011, 06:46 AM
- - Stu   As a wise man once said: "...as we know, the...   Mar 26 2011, 08:12 AM
- - marsophile   This may be a little fanciful but suppose the tran...   Mar 27 2011, 04:19 AM
- - Hungry4info   The link briv1016 posted talked specifically about...   Mar 27 2011, 05:25 AM
- - djellison   In that context, the 'configuration' of th...   Mar 27 2011, 11:36 PM
- - stevesliva   QUOTE Revised commanding began March 15, including...   Mar 28 2011, 12:08 AM
|- - MahFL   I sadly think Spirit is dead.   Mar 29 2011, 01:22 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   It would be interesting if Spirit could receive bu...   Mar 29 2011, 01:36 PM
- - marsophile   I'm wondering if the heat generated by Spirit ...   Mar 29 2011, 03:56 PM
- - djellison   THEMIS-IR images are 100m/pixel. A rover warm ele...   Mar 29 2011, 04:31 PM
- - hendric   I did a cleaning event here at home, but still did...   Mar 29 2011, 09:21 PM
- - ilbasso   When I do a cleaning event at home, the response I...   Apr 1 2011, 01:42 AM
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