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Dawn approaches Vesta, Approach phase, 3 May to 16 July 2011
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post May 3 2011, 03:44 PM
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Latest DAWN journal is out.

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First pictures of Vesta should be taken today.
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post Jul 15 2011, 08:30 AM
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Hmmmm, cropping Dilo's image, all sorts of interesting things crop up. Crater chains, albedo differences etc. But this caught my eye.



An odd, 'cartouche' like set of grabens? with what looks like a cinder cone? in the middle?
Or just artefacts?

And that arrowed crater with two sections of dark floor - shadows? lava flooded?

This is going to get interesting....

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post Jul 15 2011, 10:28 AM
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The following plots shows the progress of distance and relative velocity during the approach phase, based on mission status updates and, for the last points, on the simulator in the Dawn site (thanks to people who collected snapshot of it in this thread!):
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On june 26, Dawn entered the Vesta gravitational sphere of influence (about 125000 km radius, green arrow); however, speed need to be reduced below parabolic-trajectory limit for gravitational capture and orbit insertion. Based on latest JPL press release, this will happen tomorrow around 5:00 UTC at 15900 km distance; this implies a relative speed between 33,5 and 47,5 m/s, adopting a mass of 2,67e20 kg for Vetsa. Even assuming an initially elliptic orbit (indicative insertion speed of 40m/s), current declared speed of 48 m/s implies an average deceleration of 1,3e-4 m/s2 which is probably too high unless they use chemical propulsion (ion motor deceleration never went above 6.6e-5 m/s2 during approach phase), so I tend to suspect actual speed is lower than declared in the simulator. A confirm of this suspect arises from last Mission Status which declares only 37 m/s on July,13; at 23000km, such a speed would garantee Dawn is already gravitationally captured, even though on a highly elliptic orbit!
Do someone knows more details on incoming insertion maneuver?


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post Jul 16 2011, 03:39 AM
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QUOTE (dilo @ Jul 15 2011, 02:28 AM) *
The following plots shows the progress of distance and relative velocity during the approach phase, based on mission status updates and, for the last points, on the simulator in the Dawn site (thanks to people who collected snapshot of it in this thread!):

Why are you so sure there's a strictly linear relationship between velocity and distance from Vesta?

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- Holder of the Two Leashes   Dawn approaches Vesta   May 3 2011, 03:44 PM
- - Juramike   Groovy! And it doesn't look all crater-sa...   Jul 14 2011, 02:42 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   OK that was nice. How long before we get to Ceres...   Jul 14 2011, 02:45 PM
|- - Mariner9   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jul 14 2011, 06:45 A...   Jul 14 2011, 05:06 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Nice! (and ixnay on the erescay, EGD) - maybe...   Jul 14 2011, 02:53 PM
- - Holder of the Two Leashes   Thanks Steve G and Stu. As soon as they release a...   Jul 14 2011, 03:46 PM
- - Juramike   July 9 2011 image now on Planetary Photojournal: ...   Jul 14 2011, 04:34 PM
|- - dilo   I processed the tiff image (thanks for highlight, ...   Jul 14 2011, 08:11 PM
|- - tek_604   QUOTE (dilo @ Jul 14 2011, 10:11 PM) I pr...   Jul 15 2011, 05:32 AM
- - Phil Stooke   I have made a VERY crude attempt to combine the ex...   Jul 14 2011, 04:37 PM
- - Gsnorgathon   I'm wonder if, due to Vesta's low gravity,...   Jul 14 2011, 05:30 PM
- - Phil Stooke   That's pretty much what pjam suggested up abov...   Jul 14 2011, 05:58 PM
- - tasp   How much bigger does that montage have to be to ge...   Jul 15 2011, 02:06 AM
- - Bunker9603   Dilo that is well done, It will be nice when Ceres...   Jul 15 2011, 04:27 AM
- - antipode   That central uplift sure looks like its made of di...   Jul 15 2011, 07:46 AM
- - Julius   would the hump be a volcano and the surrounding gr...   Jul 15 2011, 08:19 AM
- - antipode   Hmmmm, cropping Dilo's image, all sorts of int...   Jul 15 2011, 08:30 AM
|- - dilo   The following plots shows the progress of distance...   Jul 15 2011, 10:28 AM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (dilo @ Jul 15 2011, 02:28 AM) The ...   Jul 16 2011, 03:39 AM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jul 16 2011, 03:3...   Jul 16 2011, 06:43 AM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (dilo @ Jul 15 2011, 11:43 PM) Greg...   Jul 16 2011, 03:34 PM
- - Gladstoner   Just some early hypothesizing for my own entertain...   Jul 16 2011, 02:39 AM
|- - walfy   The kiwi hypotheses.   Jul 16 2011, 04:50 AM
- - punkboi   Welcome to Vesta! NASA's Dawn Spacecraft ...   Jul 17 2011, 08:14 AM
- - ElkGroveDan   Moving the discussion over HERE http://www.unmann...   Jul 17 2011, 05:05 PM
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