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Paolo View Member Profile	Aug 7 2011, 09:46 AM Post #1
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1729 Joined: 3-August 06 From: 43° 35' 53" N 1° 26' 35" E Member No.: 1004	'Red Dragon' Mission Mulled as Cheap Search for Mars Life any opinion on this? would it really make sense adapting a manned spaceship to unmanned Mars landing? I am skeptical... if replying, please remember forum guideline 1.5

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nprev View Member Profile	Nov 10 2011, 03:46 PM Post #2
Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8789 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602	Well, let's redirect by all means, then! Anybody got the scoop on the proposed analytical lab? Seems like it's designed to find complex organics, specifically DNA. I am remarkably ingnorant of organic chemistry; how would this work? I didn't think that a GCMS was capable of identifying complex molecules with any degree of precision, but I suppose the technology has probably advanced considerably since the Viking days... -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.

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Paolo Red Dragon Aug 7 2011, 09:46 AM

AndyG ...and 1.2, and 1.3! I think the best thing w... Aug 7 2011, 11:26 AM

pospa Since payload capacity of Red Dragon to Mars surfa... Aug 7 2011, 12:16 PM

ugordan QUOTE (pospa @ Aug 7 2011, 02:16 PM) Sinc... Aug 7 2011, 03:37 PM

djellison QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 7 2011, 08:37 AM) A ... Aug 8 2011, 01:24 AM

Jim from NSF.com Full inline quote removed - ADMIN No, the capsul... Aug 8 2011, 02:27 AM

Greg Hullender Treating Dragon strictly as an unmanned vehicle, i... Aug 8 2011, 12:07 AM

ElkGroveDan My recollection from the earliest days of SpaceX h... Aug 8 2011, 12:48 AM

ElkGroveDan The Viking landers and MSL wouldn't fit in it ... Aug 8 2011, 03:20 AM

djellison QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Aug 7 2011, 06... Aug 8 2011, 03:20 AM

Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 7 2011, 11:20 PM) ... Aug 8 2011, 05:37 PM

djellison QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Aug 8 2011, 09... Aug 8 2011, 05:55 PM

Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 8 2011, 01:55 PM) ... Aug 8 2011, 08:16 PM

djellison QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Aug 8 2011, 01... Aug 8 2011, 08:35 PM

Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 8 2011, 04:35 PM) ... Aug 9 2011, 12:12 AM

djellison QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Aug 8 2011, 05... Aug 9 2011, 01:21 AM

Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 8 2011, 08:21 PM) ... Aug 12 2011, 12:41 AM

ZLD Just out of curiosity, are there any obvious appli... Aug 8 2011, 11:44 PM

ugordan QUOTE (ZLD @ Aug 9 2011, 01:44 AM) Also, ... Aug 9 2011, 08:07 AM

nprev If I'm not mistaken, I think that Red Dragon w... Aug 8 2011, 11:51 PM

ZLD QUOTE a couple of intermediate-sized rovers poppin... Aug 9 2011, 12:06 AM

nprev Jim, one point you have to remember about Red Drag... Aug 9 2011, 12:48 AM

ZLD QUOTE Driving rovers out the hatch is ludicrous, t... Aug 9 2011, 01:06 AM

centsworth_II QUOTE (ZLD @ Aug 8 2011, 08:06 PM) ...som... Aug 9 2011, 01:24 AM

nprev Yep; many ways to skin that cat. You could even pu... Aug 9 2011, 01:30 AM

centsworth_II QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 8 2011, 09:30 PM) ...Y... Aug 9 2011, 01:36 AM

ZLD Kind of like the tumbleweed idea thats been floate... Aug 9 2011, 01:49 AM

centsworth_II QUOTE (ZLD @ Aug 8 2011, 08:49 PM) Kind o... Aug 9 2011, 02:30 AM

DDAVIS I would have cameras at least pointing out the win... Aug 9 2011, 04:12 AM

djellison You sound like Mike Wolff. In a good way. Top hat... Aug 9 2011, 05:56 AM

ElkGroveDan Think of the weather station and seismometer you c... Aug 9 2011, 06:00 AM

Astro0 Of course thinking outside the box or in this case... Aug 9 2011, 07:39 AM

Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (Astro0 @ Aug 9 2011, 02:39 AM) OfJ... Aug 12 2011, 12:33 AM

pospa We are talking about Discovery category mission, r... Aug 9 2011, 11:09 AM

algorimancer QUOTE (pospa @ Aug 9 2011, 05:09 AM) ...w... Aug 9 2011, 12:57 PM

Drkskywxlt Although I think this proposed proposal (how's... Aug 9 2011, 12:51 PM

Mongo For a Mars mission, there are two kinds of distanc... Aug 9 2011, 05:01 PM

djellison It's not out of the question that the vehicle ... Aug 9 2011, 05:18 PM

Mongo I had a wild idea, does anybody know if it is tech... Aug 9 2011, 05:37 PM

Mongo From Emily's Planetary Society blog: QUOTE Mo... Mar 16 2012, 01:04 AM

Gsnorgathon Good call, Mongo! Now, do you have some sugges... Mar 16 2012, 06:26 AM

ZLD Drilling through the bottom is a possibility, as i... Aug 9 2011, 05:53 PM

Fran Ontanaya It may be robust enough to survive a winter buried... Aug 9 2011, 07:05 PM

lyford Delurking in this thread just long enough to say H... Aug 9 2011, 11:30 PM

MarsInMyLifetime I'm new to UMSF, but a long-time advocate of r... Aug 10 2011, 06:08 AM

ugordan QUOTE (MarsInMyLifetime @ Aug 10 2011, 08... Aug 10 2011, 08:06 AM

MarsInMyLifetime QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 10 2011, 02:06 AM) .... Aug 10 2011, 04:08 PM

Fran Ontanaya Maybe it could orbit Mars, mapping with a big gamm... Aug 12 2011, 02:20 AM

ZLD QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Aug 11 2011, 06... Aug 12 2011, 02:43 AM

ElkGroveDan QUOTE (ZLD @ Aug 11 2011, 07:43 PM) Jim, ... Aug 12 2011, 05:56 AM

Greg Hullender I hate to appear to agree with Jim, but I'm ju... Aug 12 2011, 03:33 AM

stevesliva On the other hand, NASA also has a history of desi... Aug 12 2011, 05:45 AM

nprev "A solar-powered rover lasting for over seven... Aug 12 2011, 07:15 AM

djellison Jim has been asked, in private, and publicly, by U... Aug 12 2011, 08:00 AM

SteveM "The idea is like grass, It craves light, lik... Aug 12 2011, 04:48 PM

Drkskywxlt I think people have posted several ideas of how SO... Aug 12 2011, 05:08 PM

Astro0 "...but I don't think any of that science... Aug 13 2011, 06:32 AM

Drkskywxlt QUOTE (Astro0 @ Aug 13 2011, 01:32 AM) Oh... Aug 15 2011, 12:50 PM

Oersted I imagine a snake crawling out of the hatch... ht... Aug 13 2011, 08:00 PM

Syrinx It might be worth simply emailing Elon Musk and as... Aug 18 2011, 08:42 PM

Paolo there is an article on Red Dragon on this week... Nov 9 2011, 07:45 PM

Drkskywxlt Usually teams that are proposing Discovery or NF m... Nov 9 2011, 08:46 PM

djellison QUOTE (Drkskywxlt @ Nov 9 2011, 12:46 PM)... Nov 9 2011, 09:50 PM

vjkane ADMIN - Full inline quote removed. You should know... Nov 9 2011, 10:25 PM

Phil Stooke True! But nobody else is likely to steal this... Nov 9 2011, 09:26 PM

djellison And someone else could also propose a Red Dragon p... Nov 9 2011, 10:36 PM

Drkskywxlt Dragon is a platform, Red Dragon is a specific mis... Nov 10 2011, 11:26 AM

djellison QUOTE (Drkskywxlt @ Nov 10 2011, 03:26 AM... Nov 10 2011, 02:45 PM

nprev Well, let's redirect by all means, then! ... Nov 10 2011, 03:46 PM

vjkane QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 10 2011, 07:46 AM) Any... Nov 10 2011, 03:54 PM

Drkskywxlt I would definitely expect foreign instruments (or ... Nov 10 2011, 03:59 PM

nprev Hmm. All that terrific payload capacity... What d... Nov 10 2011, 04:08 PM

Paolo this presentation of Red Dragon has been posted on... Dec 13 2011, 07:04 PM

Kaputnik It's been interesting to figure out how Red Dr... Sep 16 2012, 03:03 PM

Mongo That's the big question -- whether it would be... Sep 17 2012, 05:17 PM

Kaputnik A 'nearly stock' Dragon would be aiming to... Sep 17 2012, 08:39 PM

Mongo Acording to SpaceX, the dry mass of a Dragon is 3,... Sep 17 2012, 09:30 PM

Kaputnik A 3180kg Dragon does not have, as far as I am awar... Sep 17 2012, 11:29 PM

dtolman A few days ago Space.com posted a speculative arti... Sep 17 2015, 12:45 AM

sittingduck I have a question concerning the CGI used to showc... Sep 18 2015, 09:38 AM

eoincampbell Just beyond Dingo Gap sol 528 Sep 18 2015, 03:33 PM

sittingduck Thanks eoincampbell! By my reckoning that p... Sep 18 2015, 04:22 PM

anticitizen2 I am hearing that Red Dragon is more likely to get... Jan 4 2016, 04:40 AM

stevesliva QUOTE (anticitizen2 @ Jan 4 2016, 12:40 A... Jan 4 2016, 04:49 AM

mcaplinger QUOTE (anticitizen2 @ Jan 3 2016, 08:40 P... Jan 4 2016, 05:17 AM

vjkane QUOTE (anticitizen2 @ Jan 3 2016, 08:40 P... Jan 4 2016, 01:13 PM

Phil Stooke Phil Apr 27 2016, 04:12 PM

Seryddwr We're gonna need more wheels... Serio... Apr 27 2016, 05:11 PM

dtolman The article at Gizmodo has more details than the t... Apr 27 2016, 07:58 PM

Explorer1 Things are starting to heat up! (no pun intend... Apr 27 2016, 10:15 PM

elakdawalla Red Dragon could enable some exciting future robot... Apr 27 2016, 10:53 PM

acastillo I suspect, and would encourage NASA to propose and... Apr 27 2016, 11:10 PM

Stratespace In this techno-oriented mission, I imagine more pa... Apr 27 2016, 11:17 PM

nprev I would expect this initial mission to be almost p... Apr 28 2016, 02:06 AM

dtolman NASA's statement on their partnership with Spa... Apr 28 2016, 03:01 AM

nprev If they're smart--and there's no doubt tha... Apr 28 2016, 03:40 AM

climber When exactly will be 2018 launch window? Apr 28 2016, 05:09 AM

Paolo launch window should be around May +/- one month Apr 28 2016, 05:11 AM

tanjent This is an issue that has arisen recently in Schia... Apr 28 2016, 05:28 AM

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