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Paolo
post Jan 7 2012, 08:29 PM
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the GEMS Discovery finalist has been renamed InSight and now has its own website: http://insight.jpl.nasa.gov/
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Phil Stooke
post Jan 8 2012, 05:32 PM
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One additional point about cameras... it is essential to know the exact location of a lander - the interpretation of seismic and heat flow data will be very much tied in with knowing what it landed on. Phoenix was located with HiRISE images but we can't guarantee the availability of images with that resolution in 2016. So precise location will depend, at least as a back-up, on locating the lander with respect to horizon features. So some degree of ability to survey the site will be necessary to guarantee the quality of the science. For Phoenix, the RAC camera on the arm was not used as a site-mapping instrument (except underneath the lander), but it could have been, if necessary.

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post Jan 8 2012, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 8 2012, 09:32 AM) *
One additional point about cameras... it is essential to know the exact location of a lander - the interpretation of seismic and heat flow data will be very much tied in with knowing what it landed on.

I haven't seen this discussed, but they may have a descent camera to meet this need. Phoenix carried a descent camera that wasn't used because, if memory serves me correctly, software issues discovered in flight. The InSight mission could make the necessary changes.


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- Paolo   InSight mission   Jan 7 2012, 08:29 PM
- - Greg Hullender   I was going to say I was amazed that we've rea...   Jan 7 2012, 09:33 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jan 7 2012, 01:33...   Jan 8 2012, 12:26 AM
- - nprev   Hmm. I read through the site & the poster, and...   Jan 8 2012, 01:47 AM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 7 2012, 05:47 PM) I re...   Jan 8 2012, 07:07 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (vjkane @ Jan 7 2012, 11:07 PM) If ...   Jan 8 2012, 05:11 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 8 2012, 09:11 AM) ...   Jan 8 2012, 06:08 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Oh I definitely love the idea of building new prob...   Jan 8 2012, 01:50 AM
- - Fran Ontanaya   Is there a big difference between this mission and...   Jan 8 2012, 03:12 PM
- - Phil Stooke   One additional point about cameras... it is essent...   Jan 8 2012, 05:32 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 8 2012, 09:32 AM...   Jan 8 2012, 06:34 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Here's a completely different question: to get...   Jan 8 2012, 06:59 PM
|- - Drkskywxlt   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jan 8 2012, 01:59...   Jan 8 2012, 07:34 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jan 8 2012, 10:59...   Jan 9 2012, 08:50 PM
- - djellison   You don't need a descent imager to exactly loc...   Jan 8 2012, 07:03 PM
- - Phil Stooke   But we may not have it in 2016. Almost certainly ...   Jan 8 2012, 07:23 PM
- - hendric   I think they're some work you can do with dire...   Jan 9 2012, 07:40 PM
- - stewjack   Warning I am not a geologist. My impression, when...   Jan 9 2012, 09:25 PM
- - antipode   QUOTE Too bad a pair of DS2 seismographs couldn...   Jan 10 2012, 02:44 AM
|- - PaulM   I assume that there is a mission assumption is tha...   Jan 10 2012, 03:34 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (PaulM @ Jan 10 2012, 07:34 AM) . I...   Jan 10 2012, 03:42 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (PaulM @ Jan 10 2012, 04:34 PM) I u...   Mar 28 2012, 11:03 AM
- - Drkskywxlt   I'm guessing the mission is more cost-limited ...   Jan 10 2012, 03:42 PM
- - Phil Stooke   A few new details about the mission, from Bruce Ba...   Mar 23 2012, 01:06 PM
- - MERovingian   Happy Day! http://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...   Aug 20 2012, 07:01 PM
- - Hungry4info   Awesome! Mars! I can't remember the la...   Aug 20 2012, 07:18 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Good one, Hungry! I would have liked any of ...   Aug 20 2012, 07:55 PM
- - Paolo   press release New NASA Mission to Take First Look ...   Aug 20 2012, 08:41 PM
- - Paolo   interesting... the German heat probe "mole...   Aug 20 2012, 09:24 PM
- - djellison   That's cool - PLUTO was an awesome and cunning...   Aug 20 2012, 09:26 PM
|- - SFJCody   Does seem like a shame that only one copy of this ...   Aug 21 2012, 05:25 AM
|- - gndonald   QUOTE (SFJCody @ Aug 21 2012, 01:25 PM) D...   Aug 21 2012, 10:57 AM
||- - MahFL   QUOTE (gndonald @ Aug 21 2012, 11:57 AM) ...   Aug 21 2012, 11:34 AM
|- - JRehling   Mars Geophysical network options with anywhere fro...   Aug 21 2012, 09:07 PM
- - Toma B   From Bruce Betts blog on PS... QUOTE The lander wi...   Aug 21 2012, 07:37 AM
|- - monty python   and BTW. Is there a word about where it should be ...   Aug 21 2012, 08:05 AM
|- - Gsnorgathon   Given the high elevation at Tharsis, I'd guess...   Aug 21 2012, 08:11 AM
- - Explorer1   Maybe Elysium instead? Oh, what I'd give to fi...   Aug 21 2012, 08:23 AM
- - antipode   I was thinking Elysium as well, but Elysium PLANIT...   Aug 21 2012, 10:09 AM
|- - MahFL   Forget pretty pics, the science is literally under...   Aug 21 2012, 10:37 AM
|- - Drkskywxlt   QUOTE (antipode @ Aug 21 2012, 06:09 AM) ...   Aug 21 2012, 10:56 AM
- - cIclops   Good news from NASA's Mars program at last...   Aug 21 2012, 11:35 AM
|- - pospa   QUOTE (cIclops @ Aug 21 2012, 01:35 PM) S...   Aug 21 2012, 11:55 AM
|- - Drkskywxlt   QUOTE (cIclops @ Aug 21 2012, 06:35 AM) G...   Aug 21 2012, 03:11 PM
- - centsworth_II   I don't know if there are other candidates. h...   Aug 21 2012, 12:19 PM
- - Phil Stooke   There was a poster on the landing site at LPSC in ...   Aug 21 2012, 03:00 PM
- - vjkane   A Universe Today article stated that the landing s...   Aug 21 2012, 11:31 PM
|- - Drkskywxlt   QUOTE (vjkane @ Aug 21 2012, 07:31 PM) In...   Aug 21 2012, 11:45 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Drkskywxlt @ Aug 21 2012, 06:45 PM...   Sep 9 2012, 05:25 PM
- - NickF   I suppose that (re)flying the Planetary Society...   Aug 22 2012, 02:38 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (NickF @ Aug 22 2012, 04:38 AM) I s...   Aug 22 2012, 06:52 AM
- - briv1016   Any word on a launch vehicle? An Atlas V seems ki...   Aug 22 2012, 06:46 AM
|- - Mongo   QUOTE (briv1016 @ Aug 22 2012, 07:46 AM) ...   Aug 22 2012, 04:32 PM
|- - SFJCody   QUOTE (Mongo @ Aug 23 2012, 02:32 AM) It ...   Aug 22 2012, 11:42 PM
- - Paolo   cool video on the German heat probe http://www.dlr...   Aug 22 2012, 07:33 AM
- - dvandorn   Remember too, if you start saying "Hey, with ...   Aug 23 2012, 12:51 AM
- - climber   Yep, I guess that the TPS microphone would be the ...   Aug 23 2012, 08:25 AM
- - briv1016   Taking another look at the animation video it appe...   Aug 23 2012, 08:53 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (briv1016 @ Aug 23 2012, 03:53 AM) ...   Aug 23 2012, 12:50 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (briv1016 @ Aug 23 2012, 03:53 AM) ...   Aug 23 2012, 09:21 PM
- - antipode   QUOTE Any word on a launch vehicle? An Atlas V see...   Aug 24 2012, 08:35 AM
|- - SFJCody   Following on from the earlier active seismic exper...   Aug 25 2012, 05:02 AM
- - nprev   Couple things here to keep in mind: 1. F9 Heavy h...   Aug 25 2012, 05:17 AM
|- - SFJCody   QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 25 2012, 03:17 PM) Not...   Aug 25 2012, 05:27 AM
- - djellison   We already know from the fresh craters found by CT...   Aug 25 2012, 05:59 AM
|- - JRehling   There are a lot of issues on the deliberate-thump ...   Aug 28 2012, 04:44 AM
|- - JRehling   Here's a piece about the seismometer which wil...   Aug 29 2012, 11:35 PM
- - climber   There is something confusing to me. On January 17t...   Aug 27 2012, 01:59 PM
- - tolis   Hi All, On the subject of Phobos tides, one facto...   Aug 28 2012, 09:11 AM
- - Paolo   a few (small) pics of the seismometer on the blog ...   Aug 30 2012, 05:20 AM
- - Yooper   Hi! Does anyone have a link to the August 20 ...   Sep 5 2012, 01:52 PM
|- - arachnitect   QUOTE (Yooper @ Sep 5 2012, 08:52 AM) Hi...   Sep 8 2012, 04:01 PM
|- - Yooper   QUOTE (arachnitect @ Sep 8 2012, 11:01 AM...   Sep 9 2012, 10:00 PM
- - Yooper   Hello – two layperson questions about InSight’s se...   Sep 14 2012, 04:34 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Yooper @ Sep 14 2012, 09:34 AM) ho...   Sep 14 2012, 07:54 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Yooper @ Sep 14 2012, 12:34 PM) Tw...   Sep 14 2012, 10:35 PM
|- - Yooper   Thanks! BTW, in a odd twist of timing, I just ...   Sep 21 2012, 10:40 AM
- - Explorer1   Apparently the general region for landing has been...   Apr 1 2013, 06:25 AM
- - Explorer1   From 16 down to 4. More detail on the exact requir...   Sep 4 2013, 08:53 PM
|- - MahFL   Why does the JPL article use "yards" ?   Sep 5 2013, 11:58 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Unfortunately they don't mention which four el...   Sep 4 2013, 09:17 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Because they are written for Americans. The origi...   Sep 5 2013, 01:16 PM
|- - SFJCody   I expect competition between UMSF regulars to see ...   Sep 5 2013, 03:02 PM
- - Explorer1   Launch vehicle + site chosen: An Atlas 5 from Vand...   Dec 20 2013, 09:11 AM
- - Paolo   a Vandenberg launch was also initially planned for...   Dec 20 2013, 09:26 AM
- - Greenish   I know there are others who know the orbital mecha...   Dec 20 2013, 06:27 PM
- - Paolo   the French space agency CNES has just published th...   Dec 30 2013, 09:01 PM
- - machi   It looks that InSight is now planned with color ca...   May 17 2014, 05:23 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (machi @ May 17 2014, 10:23 AM) It ...   May 17 2014, 05:30 PM
|- - machi   Yes, that's more accurate but isn't ...   May 17 2014, 05:41 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (machi @ May 17 2014, 10:41 AM) isn...   May 17 2014, 07:22 PM
- - Blue Sky   InSight appears to be focussed on deep structures ...   Jul 10 2014, 12:06 AM
- - Phil Stooke   For that you really want a mobile vehicle, not a s...   Jul 10 2014, 12:08 AM
- - James Sorenson   The ExoMars rover will have a GPR called WISDOM. A...   Jul 10 2014, 04:10 AM
- - B Bernatchez   InSight mission enters ATLO phase: http://www.jpl...   Nov 18 2014, 04:58 PM
- - Astro0   Landing site evaluation and spacecraft development...   Mar 5 2015, 02:12 AM
- - Paolo   the French space agency has delivered the qualific...   Apr 3 2015, 09:48 AM
- - Paolo   lots of nice hardware pictures of InSight undergoi...   May 27 2015, 07:06 PM
- - Explorer1   There's been no news about the Planetary Socie...   Jun 12 2015, 05:16 PM
- - djellison   It's not onboard.   Jun 12 2015, 06:32 PM
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