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Phil Naranjo
post Sep 27 2012, 07:24 PM
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I saw this article today: The Titan Lake In-situ Sampling Propelled Explorer (TALISE) proposes a sending an instrument-laden boat-probe to Saturn’s largest moon.

Read more: http://www.universetoday.com/97611/paddleb.../#ixzz27hR16wOH

I was under the impression that the liquid hydrocarbon lakes of Titan were highly viscous, more tar like? Prior to Cassini, I recall speculation by scientists that Titan might harbor giant waves.

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post Sep 29 2012, 05:22 AM
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I'll echo John Rehling's comments on Titan as a world deserving of many missions. In terms of landing, flying, or floating, it's also the easiest world to explore. On the down sides, it's distance means long flight times, plutonium power sources, and higher power communications systems, all of which means more dollars.

The ease of landing probably makes Titan cheaper to explore via a series of landers, flyers, floaters than with an orbiter (the opposite of Mars). A mission to map Titan in high resolution requires a high power communications system and a high capacity plutonium-based power system to match. Estimates come in at $1.5B up to many B's. A minimal lander mission would cost between $425M (TiME proposal team's assumed estimate) and somewhat greater than $1B (Decadal Survey estimate) for a lake lander, which represents one of the simpler missions. The AVIATR airplane mission (without a relay orbiter) was estimated to cost ~$750M. A simple relay orbiter (like that which is planned for the TALISE lake lander that started this thread) could be fairly cheap compared to a high capability orbiter, but I haven't seen estimates.

Net of all this, for much less than is proposed for NASA's Mars program, we could have a series of missions to Titan (although to be fair, the Titan craft would be less capable than the missions envisioned for Mars -- distance from Earth and the sun extracts its penalty).

TiME would have been a great mission to start a series of Titan missions. Let's hope the the TALISE proposers or another team finds the bucket of money to fly.





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- Phil Naranjo   Proposed Titan Paddle Boat Mission   Sep 27 2012, 07:24 PM
- - djellison   Everything I've read suggests the lakes are et...   Sep 27 2012, 07:48 PM
- - ngunn   The idea is just too good to give up on. C'mo...   Sep 27 2012, 08:53 PM
- - djellison   Seems like a lot of mass/complexity to do somethin...   Sep 27 2012, 09:16 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 27 2012, 10:16 PM)...   Sep 27 2012, 09:23 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 27 2012, 05:23 PM) Exa...   Sep 28 2012, 02:18 AM
- - Eyesonmars   The lakes of Titan cover only what ,1-2% of the su...   Sep 27 2012, 09:31 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Eyesonmars @ Sep 27 2012, 02:31 PM...   Sep 28 2012, 04:20 AM
|- - Eyesonmars   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Sep 28 2012, 04:20 AM...   Sep 28 2012, 01:00 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Eyesonmars @ Sep 28 2012, 05:00 AM...   Sep 28 2012, 03:08 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Eyesonmars @ Sep 28 2012, 06:00 AM...   Sep 28 2012, 05:16 PM
- - ngunn   Earth's oceans are mostly water, but their min...   Sep 27 2012, 10:04 PM
- - Fran Ontanaya   I think I read liquid methane would be half as vis...   Sep 28 2012, 03:10 AM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (Fran Ontanaya @ Sep 28 2012, 05:10...   Sep 29 2012, 05:30 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (TheAnt @ Sep 29 2012, 01:30 PM) So...   Sep 30 2012, 12:45 AM
|- - TheAnt   @rlorenz Yes I said that with a bit of a reserva...   Sep 30 2012, 02:23 PM
- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Phil Naranjo @ Sep 27 2012, 03:24 ...   Sep 28 2012, 07:57 AM
- - Juramike   The idea of a self-propelled lake probe transectin...   Sep 28 2012, 03:31 PM
- - vjkane   I'll echo John Rehling's comments on Titan...   Sep 29 2012, 05:22 AM
- - atomoid   i imagine if a Titan Balloon inflation payload (if...   Dec 13 2012, 02:12 AM
- - vjkane   QUOTE (atomoid @ Dec 12 2012, 06:12 PM) i...   Dec 14 2012, 04:53 PM
- - rlorenz   QUOTE (atomoid @ Dec 12 2012, 09:12 PM) i...   Dec 15 2012, 02:26 PM


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