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INCOMING!: метеорита в Челябинске, Russian Meteor - February 2013
volcanopele
post Feb 15 2013, 07:01 AM
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Looks like a small meteoroid decided to spoil 2012 DA14's big day by exploding over Russia...

http://zyalt.livejournal.com/722930.html?nojs=1


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post Feb 15 2013, 06:51 PM
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I can certainly see how there was a pretty big explosion in the air, there is a rather extreme pulse of light and then the contrail sort of vanishes. But -- a 500 megaton explosion only 18 km up, over a populated town, and all we had from that was a bunch of broken glass? I mean, that's more powerful of an explosion than the Tsar Bomba, the largest thermonuclear explosion that has ever been accomplished, and that explosion caused the clouds to move at hundreds of miles an hour away from the blast at distances of 20 to 30 miles. I sure don't see that kind of immense airburst in the videos of the bolide....

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oops -- just reviewed the figures, and either I misread the megatonnage the first time through or Mongo adjusted his figures. Still, a 5 MT bomb packs an awfully big punch...


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post Feb 15 2013, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 15 2013, 07:51 PM) *
Still, a 5 MT bomb packs an awfully big punch...

Tunguska was in recent years re-estimated to have been around something like that. This clearly had to be less. How much less depends on the actual altitude of the "airburst". At 10 km, a Hiroshima-type burst seems plausible to me. To be in the megaton range, it would have had to be significantly higher up, otherwise I'd expect much more extensive damage below. But these are all just my W.A.G.s...

NASA is estimating this to be around a 15 meter object and they're calling this one the biggest one after Tunguska. Doesn't say what their estimates are based on.


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post Feb 15 2013, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 15 2013, 08:39 PM) *
NASA is estimating this to be around a 15 meter object and they're calling this one the biggest one after Tunguska. Doesn't say what their estimates are based on.

The impact effects website gives the following results for a 15m object with density adjusted to produce a 1 kPa overpressure at a realistic distance given the videos. Total mass would be about 13,000 tonnes for an energy release of 830 KT.

Your Inputs:
Distance from Impact: 15.00 km ( = 9.32 miles )
Projectile diameter: 15.00 meters ( = 49.20 feet )
Projectile Density: 7200 kg/m3
Impact Velocity: 30.00 km per second ( = 18.60 miles per second )

Energy:
Energy before atmospheric entry: 5.73 x 10^15 Joules = 1.37 MegaTons TNT
The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 140.0 years

Major Global Changes:
The Earth is not strongly disturbed by the impact and loses negligible mass.
The impact does not make a noticeable change in the tilt of Earth's axis (< 5 hundreths of a degree).
The impact does not shift the Earth's orbit noticeably.

Atmospheric Entry:
The projectile begins to breakup at an altitude of 28500 meters = 93400 ft
The projectile bursts into a cloud of fragments at an altitude of 16200 meters = 53100 ft
The residual velocity of the projectile fragments after the burst is 18.8 km/s = 11.7 miles/s
The energy of the airburst is 3.47 x 10^15 Joules = 0.83 MegaTons
Large fragments strike the surface and may create a crater strewn field. A more careful treatment of atmospheric entry is required to accurately estimate the size-frequency distribution of meteoroid fragments and predict the number and size of craters formed.

Air Blast:
The air blast will arrive approximately 1.11 minutes after impact.
Peak Overpressure: 1050 Pa = 0.0105 bars = 0.149 psi
Max wind velocity: 2.47 m/s = 5.52 mph
Sound Intensity: 60 dB (Loud as heavy traffic)
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- volcanopele   INCOMING!: метеорита в Челябинске   Feb 15 2013, 07:01 AM
- - Explorer1   Depends on one's definition of 'small...   Feb 15 2013, 07:18 AM
- - Fran Ontanaya   Some info: http://rt.com/news/meteorite-crash-ura...   Feb 15 2013, 08:16 AM
- - nprev   Clearly a major event. I hope that the reported in...   Feb 15 2013, 08:27 AM
|- - Explorer1   Direct hit on factory? http://www.youtube.com/watc...   Feb 15 2013, 08:43 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Feb 15 2013, 12:43 AM)...   Feb 15 2013, 11:50 AM
|- - dilo   An hour ago, Italian television told about russain...   Feb 15 2013, 01:26 PM
- - machi   Chelyabinsk's bolid from Meteosat.   Feb 15 2013, 11:15 AM
- - belleraphon1   WOW!... Hope injuries not serious. Analysi...   Feb 15 2013, 01:01 PM
- - dvandorn   The best of the videos I've seen show the cont...   Feb 15 2013, 01:10 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 15 2013, 02:10 PM) ...   Feb 15 2013, 03:56 PM
- - machi   Dilo, today's SAMs cannot hit and destroy such...   Feb 15 2013, 03:33 PM
|- - dilo   Yes, machi, I know and I said I was skeptical...   Feb 15 2013, 03:46 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The story about intercepting the meteorite is almo...   Feb 15 2013, 04:05 PM
- - Mongo   I am trying to get an estimate of the size of the ...   Feb 15 2013, 04:08 PM
- - jasedm   Wow!! That's amazing. Inevitable comp...   Feb 15 2013, 04:34 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   With all those videos there's no doubt an exac...   Feb 15 2013, 06:22 PM
- - Gladstoner   .   Feb 15 2013, 06:45 PM
- - dvandorn   I can certainly see how there was a pretty big exp...   Feb 15 2013, 06:51 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 15 2013, 07:51 PM) ...   Feb 15 2013, 07:39 PM
|- - Mongo   QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 15 2013, 08:39 PM) N...   Feb 15 2013, 07:57 PM
- - Gladstoner   .   Feb 15 2013, 07:00 PM
|- - Mongo   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Feb 15 2013, 08:00 PM...   Feb 15 2013, 07:11 PM
||- - ugordan   QUOTE (Mongo @ Feb 15 2013, 08:11 PM) The...   Feb 15 2013, 07:59 PM
||- - ugordan   This just in, via NASASpaceflight.com: a full leng...   Feb 15 2013, 08:09 PM
||- - walfy   It's amazing how today's trail resembles f...   Feb 16 2013, 06:20 AM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Feb 15 2013, 08:00 PM...   Feb 15 2013, 07:16 PM
- - dvandorn   FYI, NASA TV is running live coverage of the close...   Feb 15 2013, 07:07 PM
- - dvandorn   Oh, cool -- the JPL visualizations manager is show...   Feb 15 2013, 07:14 PM
- - Mongo   QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 15 2013, 09:09 PM) T...   Feb 15 2013, 08:21 PM
- - Bill Harris   It will be interesting to see what the "yield...   Feb 15 2013, 08:57 PM
- - Explorer1   At 19 seconds in TheAnt's video (post 311), is...   Feb 15 2013, 09:01 PM
- - helvick   Why are we assuming that 1kPa is the level that wo...   Feb 15 2013, 10:31 PM
|- - Mongo   QUOTE (helvick @ Feb 15 2013, 11:31 PM) W...   Feb 15 2013, 10:58 PM
- - machi   Mongo: I don't know how it's today, but in...   Feb 15 2013, 11:28 PM
- - Gladstoner   .   Feb 15 2013, 11:34 PM
- - Mongo   Russian meteor largest in a century -- Nature QUO...   Feb 15 2013, 11:47 PM
- - machi   Needless to say, it's still one heck of an exp...   Feb 16 2013, 12:19 AM
- - 0101Morpheus   Needless to say the little unexpected meteor that ...   Feb 16 2013, 01:09 AM
|- - PaulH51   Meanwhile during Sol 187 in the sky above Gale Cra...   Feb 16 2013, 02:03 AM
- - nprev   Who knows? The Tunguska impactor left nary a trace...   Feb 16 2013, 02:39 AM
- - dvandorn   I've been finger-licking the various videos, a...   Feb 16 2013, 02:54 AM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE I don't know how it's today, but in ...   Feb 16 2013, 03:14 AM
- - Mongo   NASA has revised upwards the size of the impactor ...   Feb 16 2013, 04:06 AM
- - Bill Harris   Another measure of the energy imparted by this eve...   Feb 16 2013, 06:52 AM
|- - walfy   According to this source, the main trail, or train...   Feb 16 2013, 08:26 AM
- - xflare   If it exploded/disintegrated that high above the g...   Feb 16 2013, 09:30 AM
|- - Mongo   QUOTE (xflare @ Feb 16 2013, 09:30 AM) If...   Feb 16 2013, 01:33 PM
- - jgoldader   Any news yet on the type of the impactor? I saw a...   Feb 16 2013, 01:33 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   This is a good graphic for those of you who do out...   Feb 16 2013, 04:43 PM
- - Mongo   Interesting graphic, although the impactor is show...   Feb 16 2013, 05:04 PM
- - Paolo   back to the other asteroid star of the week, has a...   Feb 16 2013, 05:47 PM
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- - Gladstoner   .   Feb 16 2013, 09:47 PM
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- - Gladstoner   .   Feb 16 2013, 10:01 PM
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|- - Gladstoner   .   Feb 16 2013, 11:38 PM
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- - Mongo   All the videos I have seen that continue past the ...   Feb 16 2013, 10:57 PM
- - Eyesonmars   I found it interesting that a number of witnesses ...   Feb 17 2013, 01:28 AM
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|- - Mongo   QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 17 2013, 04:22 AM) Do ...   Feb 17 2013, 03:44 AM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE (Helvick)Thunder rumbles aren't generall...   Feb 17 2013, 03:25 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Feb 17 2013, 04:25 A...   Feb 17 2013, 12:29 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 17 2013, 06:29 AM) ....   Feb 17 2013, 02:48 PM
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- - Bill Harris   Do we have any scale information on the cameras us...   Feb 17 2013, 06:04 AM
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|- - Mongo   QUOTE (walfy @ Feb 17 2013, 07:45 AM) For...   Feb 17 2013, 01:58 PM
- - FordPrefect   Some interesting photos on this photographers blog...   Feb 17 2013, 09:41 AM
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- - Mongo   Those videos and images of a flaming crater are re...   Feb 17 2013, 05:10 PM
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- - silylene   Stefan Geens did a nice job computing the trajecto...   Feb 17 2013, 06:26 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (silylene @ Feb 17 2013, 02:26 PM) ...   Feb 17 2013, 08:33 PM
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