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Phil Stooke
post Feb 27 2013, 07:22 PM
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"February 27, 2013. MSL Release 1, part 1, Sols 0-89.

The first release of MSL data takes place in two parts.

Part 1, February 27, 2013, includes raw data products (EDRs) acquired on Sols 0 through 89, August 6 through November 5, 2012, for these instruments: APXS, ChemCam, DAN, Hazcam, Navcam, and REMS, along with SPICE data.

Part 2, March 20, 2013, will include the derived data products (RDRs) for Sols 0 though 89 for the APXS, ChemCam, DAN, Hazcam, Navcam, and REMS instruments, along with both the EDRs and RDRs for the CheMin and RAD instruments, and the RDRs for the SAM instrument.

Release 1 does not include data from the MAHLI, MARDI, or Mastcam instruments. These instrument teams have not yet delivered data products to PDS.

Some documents in the MSL archives are awaiting clearance by JPL Document Review and/or the JPL Import/Export Control Office. They will be posted online as soon as clearance has been received, and announced on this web site."


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Gerald
post Apr 11 2013, 10:15 AM
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Thanks! This may help more people to access the PDS data, and contribute to the debate.
I personally have been learning how to work with PDS data directly, and how to read and process them with spreadsheet or self-written software.

I think, the underlying question is, how to interprete the REMS data correctly. Several of those questions have been answered during the recent EGU conference, e.g. the origin of the UV oscillations I mentioned before; they seem to be attributed to gravity waves, not to systematic errors as I've been suspecting as likely, surprising news (to me)! Or rover movements leading to changes of the measured area, less surprising, but important to consider.
Difficult to understand are Brightness Temperature B data; jumps in the time series of e.g. UV data still have to be explained explicitely, afaik, most likely recalibrations, imho.
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post Apr 11 2013, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (Gerald @ Apr 11 2013, 06:15 PM) *
I think, the underlying question is, how to interpret the REMS data correctly....

I was sort of hoping that the "Processed Data" would have provided more insight to the well documented issues you and Joe have been debating, I have been following your discussion closely, sadly I do not have the knowledge to contribute. However, I have been learning much as it progresses... So lets hope the provision of the "Processed" REMS data does bring more people into this debate.

Separately I was also hoping that the chart detailing the ground temperature (min / max) for the first 200 sols released at that EGU conference would have helped you and Joe to test / prove some of your theories / assumptions re the temperature of a target by understanding the brightness temperatures.

I will continue to monitor this debate and hopefully learn a lot more along the way...

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- Phil Stooke   MSL data in the PDS and the Analyst's Notebook   Feb 27 2013, 07:22 PM
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- - jmknapp   Well, I don't have a way as yet to automatical...   Mar 1 2013, 12:17 PM
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|- - Greenish   QUOTE (Airbag @ Mar 1 2013, 01:55 PM) Que...   Mar 1 2013, 08:58 PM
- - elakdawalla   You can do it via FTP, right? http://geo.pds.nasa....   Mar 1 2013, 07:59 PM
|- - Airbag   Well, only to some extent it seems - for instance,...   Mar 1 2013, 08:25 PM
- - elakdawalla   I usually don't use FTP; I download the INDEX....   Mar 1 2013, 08:30 PM
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- - JohnVV   QUOTE NAVCAM .IMG files don't start with the s...   Mar 2 2013, 01:57 AM
|- - Greenish   I was careful to say you could see the images, not...   Mar 3 2013, 02:48 AM
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- - Gerald   I wonder, whether these visualized sol 80 Boom 1 W...   Mar 8 2013, 07:43 PM
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- - Phil Stooke   Yes, I expect so - the basic idea being that dead ...   Mar 10 2013, 10:04 PM
- - Gerald   Next error near Sol 58? There seems to be the swit...   Mar 10 2013, 10:12 PM
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|- - PaulH51   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Mar 21 2013, 03:13 AM) T...   Mar 21 2013, 12:10 PM
- - Gerald   The ground temperature may most likely be provided...   Mar 21 2013, 12:22 PM
- - jmknapp   Haven't looked at it closely myself yet, but I...   Mar 21 2013, 07:16 PM
|- - PaulH51   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Mar 22 2013, 03:16 AM) ....   Mar 21 2013, 09:43 PM
- - jmknapp   OK, here's a taste of some calibrated REMS dat...   Mar 25 2013, 04:47 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Mar 25 2013, 09:47 AM) N...   Mar 25 2013, 05:04 PM
- - jmknapp   That would explain how it's a bit high. Acco...   Mar 25 2013, 05:40 PM
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|- - Gerald   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Apr 1 2013, 05:11 PM) Ha...   Apr 2 2013, 10:45 AM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Apr 1 2013, 05:11 PM) In...   Apr 3 2013, 11:37 PM
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- - Gerald   Thanks! This may help more people to access th...   Apr 11 2013, 10:15 AM
|- - PaulH51   QUOTE (Gerald @ Apr 11 2013, 06:15 PM) I ...   Apr 11 2013, 01:17 PM
- - Gerald   Here one of the charts that shows UV oscillations,...   Apr 11 2013, 12:05 PM
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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jun 10 2013, 07:04 PM...   Jun 11 2013, 04:24 AM
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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Ant103 @ Jun 11 2013, 05:41 AM) So...   Jun 11 2013, 01:37 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Ant103 @ Jun 11 2013, 05:41 AM) Bu...   Jun 11 2013, 04:13 PM
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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Ant103 @ Jun 11 2013, 04:16 PM) Bu...   Jun 11 2013, 11:28 PM
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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Ant103 @ Jun 11 2013, 04:38 PM) Th...   Jun 12 2013, 12:51 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (Ant103 @ Jun 11 2013, 11:38 PM) Ed...   Jun 12 2013, 07:22 PM
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|- - PaulH51   QUOTE (Ant103 @ Jun 12 2013, 09:12 AM) Ok...   Jun 12 2013, 04:03 PM
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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (mhoward @ Jun 12 2013, 08:26 AM) O...   Jun 12 2013, 04:03 PM
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|- - Gerald   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Aug 26 2013, 01:50 AM) T...   Aug 26 2013, 08:47 AM
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- - elakdawalla   The mission summaries are now available through so...   Dec 13 2013, 10:44 PM
- - xflare   I still cant find any Mastcam images.   Mar 13 2014, 10:10 AM
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