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ROVER WHEELS: Monitoring changes over time, NOTE: Read back through the thread to avoid repeating misconceptions
DeanM
post May 16 2013, 08:35 AM
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[MOD NOTE: This thread follows on a post by Ed Truthan containing a MAHLI mosaic of MSL wheels taken on sol 275.]

Ed: zooming in on that marvellous underbelly MAHLI montage, there appears to be further (and previously noted) deformation of the wheel surfaces.

Damage is most evident in the view of the front-left wheel inner surface.

Such wear has previously been discussed and concerns allayed.

Nevertheless, the front left wheel surface *appears* to have been punctured.

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We've only done 700 meters, and have 7000 more to get to Mt Sharp.....

Given that more odometry has now accumulated, is any (re-)new(ed) concern valid?

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After thinking about it for a while, I've changed my numbering system because I decided the up/down nomenclature would get confusing. Here's the summary again of the status on sol 513, with a map of the places I spotted holes. The map should be regarded as "notional" -- it's very sketchy.



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I started looking at all the wheel imaging campaigns that have been performed since sol 463. There are tons. Here is 463:



There has been change in that time. I don't know if the map is the way to go for looking at change. A different way of going about looking for change is to construct a spreadsheet, where I note which inter-cleat spaces were seen on which sols, and note whether they contain holes. This approach has helped me find change. For one example, there is a biggish hole at the medial side of spot 9 on the right middle wheel that first appeared between this image from sol 463 and this one from sol 469 in which the RM wheel is entertainingly perched on a protruding rock. That new hole is on the edge of visibility in sol 469; it's easier to see in this image from sol 476. Incidentally, this is the same one that they targeted for RMI imaging on sol 502. The right middle wheel is easy to track because it's the easiest one to see from the mast-mounted cameras. In a sense, it's fortunate that the rear wheels appear to be less damaged, because they're the hardest ones to see.


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- DeanM   ROVER WHEELS: Monitoring changes over time   May 16 2013, 08:35 AM
- - elakdawalla   Yeah, and any pause to inspect the wheels is clear...   Dec 21 2013, 10:40 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 21 2013, 10:40 P...   Dec 22 2013, 02:14 AM
- - Explorer1   If they are concerned enough to be thinking about ...   Dec 22 2013, 12:04 AM
- - Gerald   I think, it has been Zelenyikot, not quite sure. ...   Dec 22 2013, 02:29 AM
- - James Sorenson   Here is an animated gif of the MAHLI images. It...   Dec 22 2013, 06:28 AM
- - KingContrary   I was concerned when they went with the flashy (ta...   Dec 22 2013, 11:28 AM
- - James Sorenson   Stock steel wheels? Aftermarket rims? Steel wheels...   Dec 22 2013, 12:22 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Dec 22 2013, 05:2...   Dec 22 2013, 04:34 PM
- - centsworth_II   It will be interesting to see if there are any des...   Dec 22 2013, 04:45 PM
- - Gerald   Four Sol 490 MAHLI images provide better coverage,...   Dec 22 2013, 09:46 PM
- - serpens   Almost sure to be some design changes. The space ...   Dec 22 2013, 10:42 PM
- - Gerald   The gender is correct. My humble try towards a ...   Dec 23 2013, 01:25 AM
- - James Sorenson   Cool! All of the MAHLI images of right side of...   Dec 23 2013, 04:13 AM
- - Harder   Today I read in a French space magazine that NASA ...   Dec 27 2013, 03:54 PM
- - brellis   Assuming there are energy expense issues related t...   Dec 27 2013, 08:50 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (brellis @ Dec 27 2013, 09:50 PM) A...   Dec 27 2013, 10:35 PM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (TheAnt @ Dec 27 2013, 11:35 PM) .....   Dec 28 2013, 09:47 PM
- - Explorer1   We all do; but the main science is the 'badlan...   Dec 27 2013, 09:05 PM
- - brellis   Does driving in general expend more energy than st...   Dec 27 2013, 09:47 PM
- - atomoid   chem-cam examination of wheel scratches? first i...   Dec 27 2013, 10:18 PM
- - Explorer1   Though they're correct in that this is not a d...   Dec 28 2013, 02:41 AM
- - serpens   Minor deviations from the planned track to 'sw...   Dec 28 2013, 10:07 PM
|- - TheAnt   Thank you Gerald, my interpretation of what was sa...   Dec 30 2013, 10:34 PM
- - elakdawalla   There are some really awesome ChemCam images of a ...   Jan 4 2014, 06:19 AM
- - Astro0   Here's a mosaic of those chemcam images. S...   Jan 4 2014, 07:18 AM
|- - eoincampbell   ...Great mosaic, surely a fix-it ticket 'till ...   Jan 4 2014, 07:50 AM
- - Mr Valiant   QUOTE (serpens @ Dec 7 2013, 09:42 PM) So...   Jan 4 2014, 02:03 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Mr Valiant @ Jan 4 2014, 06:03 AM)...   Jan 4 2014, 09:24 PM
|- - serpens   QUOTE (Mr Valiant @ Jan 4 2014, 03:03 PM)...   Jan 4 2014, 10:08 PM
- - Zelenyikot   The wheelhole in colored ChemCam   Jan 4 2014, 03:56 PM
- - Gerald   To me the holes and tears tell the story, that sev...   Jan 4 2014, 04:59 PM
- - nprev   Precisely, serpens, and well said! Also, a no...   Jan 4 2014, 10:34 PM
- - Astro0   ADMIN: Previous four posts removed. Please read th...   Jan 6 2014, 09:20 AM
- - Astro0   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 22 2013, 09:40 A...   Jan 7 2014, 07:34 AM
- - dr_rick   thank you for this discussion and for the images p...   Jan 7 2014, 11:28 AM
- - fredk   These two MH wheel views happen to show almost ide...   Jan 8 2014, 04:11 PM
- - Phil Stooke   To me it looks like the hole was there before, but...   Jan 8 2014, 04:18 PM
|- - dilo   Phil, I think fredk is referring to the red-arrow ...   Jan 8 2014, 05:42 PM
- - fredk   You may be right, Dilo - at first I thought that c...   Jan 8 2014, 06:16 PM
- - elakdawalla   Yeah, I stared at that for a while this morning an...   Jan 8 2014, 06:50 PM
- - Greenish   Looks like the ~1-meter drive on sol 513 was equal...   Jan 15 2014, 04:00 PM
- - Greenish   Should have read the news first. From Ken Herkenh...   Jan 15 2014, 04:25 PM
- - Olivier   Are all the wheels "in sync" ??? i.e. do...   Jan 15 2014, 04:31 PM
- - charborob   They would if you were driving in a perfectly stra...   Jan 15 2014, 04:53 PM
- - fredk   Plus there will always be some wheel slippage, whi...   Jan 15 2014, 05:37 PM
- - nprev   I believe that each wheel is independently control...   Jan 15 2014, 05:47 PM
- - elakdawalla   With all this recent wheel imaging, it really seem...   Jan 15 2014, 06:05 PM
- - Gerald   I've ideas for a 0th and 1st approximation of ...   Jan 16 2014, 12:35 AM
- - Astro0   Yes please Gerald.....'Dare Mighty Things...   Jan 16 2014, 07:28 AM
- - elakdawalla   I'm trying to get a handle on wheel geography ...   Jan 17 2014, 01:55 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Right-hand image, second one down: Number 8 has a ...   Jan 17 2014, 03:19 AM
- - elakdawalla   Thanks, I fixed that. Here's the rest. I wond...   Jan 17 2014, 04:00 AM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 17 2014, 05:00 A...   Jan 17 2014, 09:20 AM
- - dvandorn   As has been pointed out, the MSL mobility testbed ...   Jan 17 2014, 05:29 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 16 2014, 10:29 PM) ...   Jan 17 2014, 03:32 PM
- - elakdawalla   The soil in the testbed area doesn't bear a lo...   Jan 17 2014, 05:35 AM
- - dvandorn   Okay. Well, hey, it was a thought. Might still b...   Jan 17 2014, 05:48 AM
- - fredk   Yeah, I could believe that the rear wheels are som...   Jan 17 2014, 03:20 PM
- - James Sorenson   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 16 2014, 08:00 P...   Jan 17 2014, 11:09 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Jan 17 2014, 04:0...   Jan 20 2014, 05:25 PM
- - djellison   It's big heavy arm and a lot of torque there i...   Jan 17 2014, 11:39 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 17 2014, 04:39 PM)...   Jan 20 2014, 05:34 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 20 2014, 06:34 PM...   Jan 20 2014, 11:30 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (TheAnt @ Jan 20 2014, 04:30 PM) Th...   Jan 20 2014, 11:38 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 21 2014, 12:38 AM...   Jan 21 2014, 02:16 PM
- - elakdawalla   After thinking about it for a while, I've chan...   Jan 20 2014, 11:51 PM
- - Gerald   I'm persuing your approach of the pdf template...   Jan 21 2014, 01:05 AM
- - elakdawalla   Pretty cool! That twist in the middle was quit...   Jan 21 2014, 01:11 AM
- - Gerald   Thanks for explaining the image! I could...   Jan 21 2014, 09:02 AM
- - Cruzeiro do Sul   Emily, this "map" of the weels is so goo...   Jan 31 2014, 11:11 PM
- - Gerald   Next step of Sol 513 MAHLI left center wheel image...   Feb 2 2014, 08:26 PM
|- - SteveM   QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 2 2014, 03:26 PM) Nex...   Feb 2 2014, 09:28 PM
- - fredk   Seriously cool - and exactly what I envisioned a w...   Feb 2 2014, 08:39 PM
- - Gerald   Thanks! The manually difficult unwrapping is m...   Feb 2 2014, 09:12 PM
- - Gerald   I didn't yet test the other five wheels. It...   Feb 2 2014, 09:59 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 2 2014, 02:59 PM) I...   Feb 2 2014, 10:26 PM
|- - Gerald   Sol 549 MAHLI took 5 images for each wheel. So I t...   Feb 21 2014, 05:02 PM
- - Gerald   i c u r doing this job since quite while.   Feb 2 2014, 10:36 PM
- - Explorer1   Depends on the landing site surface, which is far ...   Feb 9 2014, 01:41 AM
- - PaulH51   Another nice set of MAHLI wheel images has been do...   Feb 9 2014, 02:08 AM
- - Explorer1   A few quick seconds in this update show the rock t...   Feb 14 2014, 11:34 PM
- - atomoid   no luck trying to find MAHLI pairs to create a ste...   Feb 21 2014, 04:52 AM
- - elakdawalla   I posted this in my blog yesterday, just looking a...   Feb 21 2014, 05:13 PM
- - Gerald   That's nice! Some of the pairs can almost ...   Feb 21 2014, 06:00 PM
- - elakdawalla   There's a new hole in the right middle wheel, ...   Feb 26 2014, 04:51 PM
- - xflare   Could the drive along the edge of that giant bank ...   Feb 26 2014, 05:12 PM
- - atomoid   finally some sloppy wheel crosseyes from SOL 559 ...   Mar 4 2014, 11:19 PM
- - Eric H.   Here's a worrying photo from S564.   Mar 9 2014, 06:11 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (Eric H. @ Mar 9 2014, 06:11 PM) He...   Mar 9 2014, 08:17 PM
||- - Zeke4ther   These are not the 'droids you are looking for,...   Mar 9 2014, 08:27 PM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (Eric H. @ Mar 9 2014, 07:11 PM) He...   Mar 9 2014, 08:54 PM
- - eoincampbell   I'm sure the team are keeping a close eye on t...   Mar 9 2014, 07:01 PM
- - neo56   Curiosity posing in front of Mount Sharp on sol 56...   Mar 11 2014, 03:30 PM
- - atomoid   SOL 631 lodged rock (another view).. didnt see any...   May 19 2014, 09:08 PM
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