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Dawn's first orbit, including RC3, March 6, 2015- June 15, 2015
Ron Hobbs
post Mar 6 2015, 03:23 PM
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Dawn is now officially in orbit around (1) Ceres!

Congratulations, NASA. Nice images of crescent Ceres.

NASA Spacecraft Becomes First to Orbit a Dwarf Planet
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Phil Stooke
post May 5 2015, 09:34 AM
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It's right next door to its basin (left edge)! And there is another much more subdued but even larger basin at top center in your cropped image. Besides, on a small object like Ceres basin ejecta can cover a hemisphere, it doesn't need to be that close.

Also, don't be taken in by the 'fresh' appearance of the ejecta. Look at the ejecta of Orientale on the Moon. Old but remarkably fresh-looking.

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post May 5 2015, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 5 2015, 03:34 AM) *
It's right next door to its basin (left edge)! And there is another much more subdued but even larger basin at top center in your cropped image. Besides, on a small object like Ceres basin ejecta can cover a hemisphere, it doesn't need to be that close.

Also, don't be taken in by the 'fresh' appearance of the ejecta. Look at the ejecta of Orientale on the Moon. Old but remarkably fresh-looking.


I've been straining to interpret the stuff as ejecta and other impact effects, but some things seem 'off'.

- The 'tilled ground' seems to have an irregular or even patchy distribution. The edges appear abrupt in some cases. Ejecta usually grades into the surrounding terrain in a regular manner -- or so it seems/appears, at least.

- There are no obvious source basins for the ejecta/tilled ground. Nearby candidate craters/basins are either partially covered in the stuff, or appear too old or degraded. I was eagerly awaiting to see a dramatic basin on the image released on May 4, but instead was disappointed by a barely visible outline.

- The crater size distribution is odd. I would expect more small- and medium-sized craters on ejecta from a degraded basin.

- Speaking of crater size distribution, I'm still amazed by the number of large craters around the south pole. What 'happened' to all the smaller ones (that seem to 'prefer' the north pole)?

- The curved valleys are a surprise. I would expect straight valleys (grabens or crater chains) on a primitive body like Ceres. Slumping causes curved grabens, but that doesn't seem to be in play here. My eyes even see 'spiral' patterns of valleys surrounding a couple basins, but more imagery is needed to address that....

- I look forward to more puzzling questions in the coming days, weeks and months.... smile.gif
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- Ron Hobbs   Dawn's first orbit, including RC3   Mar 6 2015, 03:23 PM
- - Gladstoner   If the modified terrain is an ejecta sheet, then w...   Apr 30 2015, 11:37 PM
- - Astro0   They must have fixed it. Here's the comparis...   May 1 2015, 12:42 AM
- - fredk   That was quick! But you can still see the rev...   May 1 2015, 03:09 AM
- - JohnVV   the other day i did notice a issue with the jpg...   May 1 2015, 03:52 AM
- - Astro0   QUOTE (fredk @ May 1 2015, 01:09 PM) That...   May 1 2015, 06:06 AM
- - Phil Stooke   A third south polar view was just released: http:...   May 1 2015, 06:30 PM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 1 2015, 07:30 PM...   May 3 2015, 01:58 PM
- - Gladstoner   Just sayin'....   May 1 2015, 07:33 PM
- - Sherbert   Returning to the infamous SPOT 5 (3 spots). Very p...   May 1 2015, 08:36 PM
- - JohnVV   reposting a image i posted on a different forum on...   May 1 2015, 08:44 PM
- - Habukaz   Any observation on 4 May will have nothing to do w...   May 1 2015, 08:59 PM
- - scalbers   They do mention making observations on May 3-4, an...   May 1 2015, 09:26 PM
|- - Habukaz   QUOTE (scalbers @ May 1 2015, 11:26 PM) T...   May 1 2015, 10:10 PM
- - Gladstoner   Even though the image releases has been limited, i...   May 1 2015, 09:29 PM
- - Steve G   It's interesting to see the number of crater p...   May 2 2015, 12:09 AM
- - Explorer1   The result of the presence of plenty of binaries i...   May 2 2015, 01:23 AM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ May 2 2015, 03:23 AM) ...   May 2 2015, 11:18 AM
- - Hungry4info   Asteroid binaries aren't restricted to radius ...   May 2 2015, 01:27 AM
- - Sherbert   Part of the IAU definition of a planet is that it ...   May 2 2015, 12:02 PM
- - Julius   Given all the hype about water detection at Ceres ...   May 2 2015, 07:41 PM
- - Gerald   and north-polar projected versions:   May 3 2015, 01:59 PM
- - wildespace   Those are fantastic images we're getting now. ...   May 3 2015, 06:23 PM
- - scalbers   It would indeed be nice to augment any newer hi-re...   May 3 2015, 06:32 PM
- - Gerald   Here versions colorized with the map wildspace pro...   May 3 2015, 07:40 PM
- - Habukaz   Gerald's projections makes it is easier to see...   May 4 2015, 01:58 PM
- - Habukaz   New image is out, this one also it shows the previ...   May 4 2015, 05:01 PM
- - Phil Stooke   "It also looks like this crater could be quit...   May 4 2015, 05:15 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 4 2015, 12:15 PM...   May 4 2015, 07:22 PM
- - ZLD   The gully in the latest image is really interestin...   May 4 2015, 07:50 PM
- - Gladstoner   The curving or otherwise non-linear nature of the ...   May 4 2015, 09:18 PM
- - Gladstoner   The rough patch of ground here ( from 1st of 4 rec...   May 4 2015, 10:23 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ May 5 2015, 12:23 AM)...   May 5 2015, 10:28 AM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ May 4 2015, 05:23 PM)...   May 5 2015, 10:12 PM
- - dvandorn   Now, that looks like an ejecta sheet to me. Why? ...   May 5 2015, 03:40 AM
- - Gladstoner   Again, what is the source of the ejecta? The imagi...   May 5 2015, 04:23 AM
- - Phil Stooke   It's right next door to its basin (left edge)...   May 5 2015, 09:34 AM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 5 2015, 03:34 AM...   May 5 2015, 07:14 PM
- - RotoSequence   Holding steady at one image per day, RC3 image #5:...   May 5 2015, 05:09 PM
- - ZLD   Some interesting features in RC3-5 (PIA19536). In...   May 5 2015, 05:43 PM
|- - Ken2   QUOTE (ZLD @ May 5 2015, 09:43 AM) Some i...   May 5 2015, 10:10 PM
- - Gladstoner   New image: PIA19538: Dawn RC3 Image 6 http://phot...   May 6 2015, 07:00 PM
- - antipode   Is that a big central peak peering over the limb a...   May 6 2015, 10:15 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (antipode @ May 6 2015, 05:15 PM) I...   May 7 2015, 12:06 AM
- - Habukaz   A new image from RC3 has been released, and we are...   May 7 2015, 04:13 PM
- - Steve G   According to their Facebook page, at this Saturday...   May 8 2015, 04:12 AM
- - Habukaz   Now we got an image that shows mostly the dayside ...   May 8 2015, 04:27 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE Now we got an image that shows mostly the da...   May 8 2015, 10:25 PM
- - Ken2   New image has 2 blotches - the blue one in particu...   May 8 2015, 05:11 PM
|- - Ken2   QUOTE (Ken2 @ May 8 2015, 09:11 AM) New i...   May 11 2015, 05:31 PM
- - ZLD   The red circled area looks like a barely resolved ...   May 8 2015, 05:47 PM
- - Gladstoner   World Ceres!   May 8 2015, 07:17 PM
- - nprev   Those look a lot more like data dropouts or someth...   May 8 2015, 07:44 PM
- - Gladstoner   Is the latest image true 1x1 aspect ratio? It may ...   May 8 2015, 07:58 PM
- - Gladstoner   A thought.... There appears to be a number of bro...   May 8 2015, 11:06 PM
- - wildespace   Catalogue entries for PIA19336 and PIA19337 have b...   May 10 2015, 08:41 AM
- - Gladstoner   The feature here: May be the same as this:   May 10 2015, 10:49 PM
- - belleraphon1   RC3 May 4th Rotation http://photojournal.jpl.nas...   May 11 2015, 01:58 PM
|- - jgoldader   QUOTE (belleraphon1 @ May 11 2015, 08:58 ...   May 11 2015, 02:45 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (jgoldader @ May 11 2015, 02:45 PM)...   May 11 2015, 03:46 PM
- - Floyd   Lots of little white spots showing up around the g...   May 11 2015, 02:45 PM
- - Habukaz   Wow, there's a lot of stuff to take in in that...   May 11 2015, 02:52 PM
- - hendric   Yeah, I give up, I have no clue what the heck doub...   May 11 2015, 02:57 PM
|- - MarsInMyLifetime   QUOTE (hendric @ May 11 2015, 09:57 AM) Y...   May 11 2015, 03:31 PM
- - Phil Stooke   My version of this new image. The 'rifts...   May 11 2015, 03:15 PM
- - Habukaz   Looking at them again, that explanation makes sens...   May 11 2015, 03:28 PM
- - elakdawalla   Some of those "rifts" look a lot like th...   May 11 2015, 03:29 PM
- - dudley   The shapes of the bright spots still look blocky t...   May 11 2015, 04:08 PM
- - Paolo   according to Co-I Dr. Tom McCord White spots on Ce...   May 11 2015, 04:12 PM
- - fredk   If this is an icy body strike, then you still have...   May 11 2015, 04:23 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   I don't think this could be only due to topogr...   May 11 2015, 05:20 PM
- - Gladstoner   This is a heck of a mountain:   May 11 2015, 05:55 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ May 11 2015, 06:55 PM...   May 11 2015, 06:25 PM
- - Floyd   There are many small white spots scattered around ...   May 11 2015, 06:10 PM
- - ZLD   Interesting looking feature extending from the sur...   May 11 2015, 06:12 PM
- - pitcapuozzo   According to the flight plan (if I understand it c...   May 11 2015, 06:23 PM
- - Gladstoner   A possible scenario comes to mind.... - In the di...   May 11 2015, 06:42 PM
- - pitcapuozzo   Just another image of the 4? km high mountain.   May 11 2015, 07:22 PM
- - Gladstoner   The area corresponding with Piazzi: The dark mo...   May 11 2015, 07:25 PM
- - Gladstoner   Bright spots: a family portrait: Image 3 featur...   May 11 2015, 07:52 PM
|- - MarsInMyLifetime   It may soon be time for some underexposed frames t...   May 11 2015, 08:02 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (MarsInMyLifetime @ May 11 2015, 09...   May 12 2015, 03:12 PM
|- - alk3997   Could the change in frame 16 just be the result of...   May 12 2015, 03:52 PM
- - Habukaz   There's also this feature that looks like a th...   May 11 2015, 08:04 PM
|- - Webscientist   Well found! I've performed a rough calcu...   May 12 2015, 10:31 AM
- - Zelenyikot   It look like volcano   May 11 2015, 09:36 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Wow, that is really good! Thanks. Phil   May 11 2015, 09:59 PM
- - ZLD   I'd say its a good candidate for a volcano lik...   May 11 2015, 10:15 PM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (Zelenyikot @ May 11 2015, 09:36 PM...   May 11 2015, 10:16 PM
- - Sherbert   To take stock after the RC3 images. In addition to...   May 11 2015, 11:23 PM
- - Gladstoner   Speaking of left field ( ) .... I can't hel...   May 12 2015, 01:19 AM
- - MarsInMyLifetime   I have to agree that this hill is volcano-like in ...   May 12 2015, 03:10 AM
- - Habukaz   It's certainly a very interesting-looking feat...   May 12 2015, 09:33 AM
- - ZLD   Heres another way of viewing the mound in RC3. Cen...   May 12 2015, 02:57 PM
- - fredk   Definitely they get brighter, but they also develo...   May 12 2015, 04:23 PM
- - ZLD   Made a flyover for 'Spot 5' as well. (cl...   May 12 2015, 05:27 PM
- - pitcapuozzo   Do we have any albedo information at this point on...   May 12 2015, 05:30 PM
- - Gerald   The bright spots should be much closer to albedo 1...   May 12 2015, 05:44 PM
- - Ken2   I'll admit the new images are perplexing of sp...   May 12 2015, 06:06 PM
- - Gerald   Another mechanism, I could imagine, are landslides...   May 12 2015, 06:52 PM
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