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Dawn's first orbit, including RC3, March 6, 2015- June 15, 2015
Ron Hobbs
post Mar 6 2015, 03:23 PM
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Dawn is now officially in orbit around (1) Ceres!

Congratulations, NASA. Nice images of crescent Ceres.

NASA Spacecraft Becomes First to Orbit a Dwarf Planet
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post Jun 10 2015, 02:06 PM
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Those look like compression artifacts to me. I think the "Spot 5" bright spots are still saturated in the released images.


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post Jun 10 2015, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jun 10 2015, 08:06 AM) *
Those look like compression artifacts to me. I think the "Spot 5" bright spots are still saturated in the released images.


Lots of compression artifacts when zoomed in. Below is a 4x view of white spot 5 with very little processing from the original.

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The dark streak to the east and attached to the main bright area, heading southeast, is interesting. I don't think that is a processing artifact.

I have to agree that almost none of the bright area is resolved even in this view. However, it almost looks to me that the main bright area is a mound covered by bright material. But that is certainly more imagination than analysis.

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post Jun 10 2015, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (alk3997 @ Jun 10 2015, 09:18 AM) *
The dark streak to the east and attached to the main bright area, heading southeast, is interesting. I don't think that is a processing artifact.


Yeah -- the dark streak appears to be a shadow cast by a ridge of some type, as the sun is coming from the bottom of the image. In addition, the extreme blow-up, while rife with compression artifacts, does show that the uppermost of the small white spots is also casting a shadow in the proper direction. It's the only one of the white spots that shows a shadow above it, although that might be more because the reflections are saturating the pixels so much that the shadows from the larger spots are being wiped out.

I'm tempted to think that the fragmentation of the main, central-peak-like white spot along its edges is real, though the details are rather wiped out by the jpeg artifacts.

Two tongue-in-cheek things that occur to me, looking at the zoomed-in image:

1) The secondary white spots look like a long quonset-style building, with smaller outbuildings arranged around it...

2) The main spot looks like the saucer section of a Constitution-class starship, with the longer piece representing the engineering hull. Not much left of the nacelles, just a few small pieces, so they must have blown apart upon impact...

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JUST KIDDING! But, hey, with the jpeg artifacts, you can almost convince yourself that you're seeing a regular structure in the high-albedo parts of the image, just as if they were artificial. And obviously, the scale is all wrong for these things to be anything but natural formations. Gonna be really, really interesting to see these features at higher resolution.

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post Jun 11 2015, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 10 2015, 03:12 PM) *
Yeah -- the dark streak appears to be a shadow cast by a ridge of some type, as the sun is coming from the bottom of the image.


If you look at this earlier image, in the craters lower in the image, especially right above the caption, there are dark deposits that really do not appear to be shadows.
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/display.cfm?News_ID=49244

I would not bet that all the low albedo features in the image you're discussing are shadows.

Here, too, there are dark features on the crater slopes that don't seem to all be shadows:
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New image, contrast enhanced:[attachment=36067:PIA19566_contrast.jpg]

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post Jun 11 2015, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE (stevesliva @ Jun 11 2015, 01:32 PM) *
Here, too, there are dark features on the crater slopes that don't seem to all be shadows:


Indeed. This darkish area (Piazzi) has been noticed since the early Hubble observations.
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- Ron Hobbs   Dawn's first orbit, including RC3   Mar 6 2015, 03:23 PM
- - scalbers   Greetings - this map version has some revisions in...   Jun 6 2015, 08:29 PM
- - Gladstoner   It is tricky to discern the orientation of the val...   Jun 8 2015, 08:42 AM
|- - Daniele_bianchino_Italy   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Jun 8 2015, 08:42 AM)...   Jun 9 2015, 02:17 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (Daniele_bianchino_Italy @ Jun 9 2015, ...   Jun 9 2015, 03:53 PM
- - Floyd   QUOTE (scalbers @ Jun 5 2015, 07:07 PM) H...   Jun 8 2015, 09:25 AM
- - scalbers   I'm glad to see such helpful good eyes on this...   Jun 8 2015, 04:49 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I was still trying to figure out which lake it was...   Jun 9 2015, 12:55 AM
|- - Webscientist   I ve seen spot 5 in a dream last night. spot 5 cor...   Jun 9 2015, 11:58 AM
- - Floyd   QUOTE (scalbers @ Jun 8 2015, 12:49 PM) I...   Jun 9 2015, 01:08 PM
- - Daniele_bianchino_Italy   QUOTE (Ian R @ Jun 5 2015, 04:54 PM) What...   Jun 9 2015, 05:34 PM
- - Gladstoner   New image: http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/im...   Jun 9 2015, 07:26 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Jun 9 2015, 02:26 PM)...   Jun 9 2015, 07:49 PM
- - Habukaz   Dimmer bright spots in another crater in the lates...   Jun 9 2015, 07:28 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (Habukaz @ Jun 9 2015, 01:28 PM) Ed...   Jun 9 2015, 07:34 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Jun 9 2015, 08:34 PM)...   Jun 9 2015, 08:02 PM
- - Gladstoner   Context of latest image: Spot 5 isn't too f...   Jun 9 2015, 07:46 PM
- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 9 2015, 02:49 PM) I...   Jun 9 2015, 10:09 PM
- - katodomo   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 9 2015, 02:55 AM...   Jun 10 2015, 06:03 AM
- - Habukaz   Region 5 is still a mystery from the Survey orbit....   Jun 10 2015, 01:43 PM
- - pitcapuozzo   New image of the bright spots on June 6th, from 44...   Jun 10 2015, 01:45 PM
|- - Jaro_in_Montreal   QUOTE (pitcapuozzo @ Jun 10 2015, 01:45 P...   Jun 10 2015, 01:58 PM
- - Habukaz   Also in the release is, among other things, a nice...   Jun 10 2015, 01:56 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (Habukaz @ Jun 10 2015, 03:56 PM) A...   Jun 11 2015, 03:37 AM
- - volcanopele   Those look like compression artifacts to me. I th...   Jun 10 2015, 02:06 PM
|- - alk3997   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jun 10 2015, 08:06 A...   Jun 10 2015, 03:18 PM
|- - fredk   I don't know what the bit depth of the origina...   Jun 10 2015, 05:03 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (alk3997 @ Jun 10 2015, 09:18 AM) T...   Jun 10 2015, 08:12 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 10 2015, 03:12 PM) ...   Jun 11 2015, 06:32 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (stevesliva @ Jun 11 2015, 01:32 PM...   Jun 11 2015, 07:26 PM
- - ngunn   [Maybe the last few posts should be in a new threa...   Jun 10 2015, 03:08 PM
- - pitcapuozzo   I'm not a photographic expert, could they try ...   Jun 10 2015, 04:10 PM
- - Paolo   shouldn't we start a new thread? the latest pi...   Jun 10 2015, 04:17 PM
- - Phil Stooke   "I'm not a photographic expert, could the...   Jun 10 2015, 04:25 PM
|- - pitcapuozzo   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 10 2015, 06:25 P...   Jun 10 2015, 05:05 PM
- - Gladstoner   A comparison of crater floor terrain and albedo:   Jun 10 2015, 05:39 PM
- - Gladstoner   Matching up features:   Jun 10 2015, 07:04 PM
- - Jackbauer   Show time : 3 more !   Jun 11 2015, 01:40 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Please link to the original images at the Dawn web...   Jun 11 2015, 03:08 AM
- - Gladstoner   Ceres spot in the parking lot? Fracture/condui...   Jun 11 2015, 07:25 AM
- - ZLD   And is that a giant pair of feet?! Aliens conf...   Jun 11 2015, 01:56 PM
- - Gladstoner   New image, contrast enhanced:   Jun 11 2015, 06:14 PM
|- - Julius   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Jun 11 2015, 07:14 PM...   Jun 13 2015, 06:51 AM
- - ngunn   Great view of the 'sand dollar' in the upp...   Jun 11 2015, 06:45 PM
- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 10 2015, 03:12 PM) ...   Jun 11 2015, 10:36 PM
- - John Broughton   This is a section of the floor of the western of t...   Jun 12 2015, 06:01 AM
- - Gladstoner   In the newest release, another crater with a centr...   Jun 12 2015, 10:47 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Jun 13 2015, 12:47 AM...   Jun 13 2015, 02:02 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (TheAnt @ Jun 13 2015, 09:02 AM) In...   Jun 13 2015, 03:24 PM
- - dvandorn   I'm agreeing a lot with John's points abov...   Jun 13 2015, 12:29 AM
- - Ian R   The Piazzi dark feature, and its proximity to the ...   Jun 13 2015, 11:18 AM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (Ian R @ Jun 13 2015, 06:18 AM) The...   Jun 13 2015, 03:28 PM
- - scalbers   Here is an updated map, adding 3 recent higher res...   Jun 13 2015, 02:26 PM
|- - Greenish   QUOTE (scalbers @ Jun 13 2015, 10:26 AM) ...   Jun 15 2015, 06:27 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Central pit craters are common on Ganymede and Cal...   Jun 13 2015, 03:39 PM
- - MarkG   Again, it helps to consider the profound ancient-n...   Jun 15 2015, 05:44 PM
- - Sherbert   I have been thinking along those lines too Phil. T...   Jun 15 2015, 07:30 PM
- - alan   QUOTE Once ejected onto the floor of the crater an...   Jun 16 2015, 06:15 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Greenish - fantastic maps, thanks for doing that. ...   Jun 17 2015, 02:10 AM
|- - Greenish   Phil - Glad they are of use.... all credit to scal...   Jun 17 2015, 04:43 PM
- - nprev   Quick note: Please post work from & comments r...   Jun 17 2015, 04:01 AM
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