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Dawn's first orbit, including RC3, March 6, 2015- June 15, 2015
Ron Hobbs
post Mar 6 2015, 03:23 PM
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Dawn is now officially in orbit around (1) Ceres!

Congratulations, NASA. Nice images of crescent Ceres.

NASA Spacecraft Becomes First to Orbit a Dwarf Planet
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post Jun 15 2015, 07:30 PM
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I have been thinking along those lines too Phil. The infamous spot(s) 5 does seem to be in an abnormally deep crater.

If we start with the assumption that there was some sort of liquid ocean beneath the surface shell that over the lifetime of Ceres has slowly frozen, the equatorial regions being the last area to freeze, the material thrown up by an impact into a central peak will behave differently depending on the time of impact and its location. It can also be assumed that the dust/rock/organics content of the shell increases over time too, changing the properties of the shell material. As a rough generalisation the majority of the craters in the polar latitudes have identifiable central peaks and steeper, sharper rims, implying impacts to areas with a solid subsurface. Again generally, the large impacts in the equatorial belt show flat bottoms or depressions and less defined rims, suggesting slushy or liquid material was excavated by the impact. There is also much evidence of resurfacing occurring from the oldest and largest impacts, suggesting large quantities of fluid were excavated and spread across the surface when penetration to the ocean below was easier.

The spot 5 crater is at intermediate latitude, where the slowly freezing ocean below could have become a shallow, slushy, concentrated brine lake/sea at the time of the impact. Once ejected onto the floor of the crater any Water would rapidly sublimate leaving bright white salt lakes behind. Thus this phenomena is impact, location and time dependent. Other bright deposits elsewhere may also be where the same criteria have been met to varying degrees at different times and are the result of briny ejecta. It does puzzle me though, why these postulated salt flats and briny ejecta have not been buried under later deposits of darker dust and organics. Is fresh brine still seeping onto the surface? Is the salt in the form of large, semi vertical crystals which shed any dust and debris?

As the liquid below freezes into a thicker and thicker shell, so smaller craters in equatorial regions, start having central peaks as the excavated material with a higher dust/rock content, becomes more solid and able to support its own weight, eventually newer, larger craters in the equatorial regions start to have central peaks. There are sure to be exceptions and oddities within this gross generalisation caused by anything from shrinkage fissures to local elevation differences. As a "rule of thumb" place to start, it seems plausible.

Larger impacts would seem to have generated cracks and fissures in the shell away from the craters allowing for the "fire fountains" mentioned by dvandorn and the creation of scarps and gullies also evident across the surface. The large number of highly linear features made of small secondary craters intuitively implies a more fluid ejecta too, though I have insufficient knowledge to know if that is a valid interpretation. A stream of liquid in a micro gravity, vacuum environment should split into a line of spherical blobs, randomly shaped blocks of solid and semi-solid ejecta would, one would think, show greater scattering due to inflight collisions and more random starting trajectories.

I hope this brings together in a semi-cogent theory, ideas that have been suggested here and elsewhere over the last few weeks. Reality may be different. We await more evidence.
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- Ron Hobbs   Dawn's first orbit, including RC3   Mar 6 2015, 03:23 PM
- - scalbers   Greetings - this map version has some revisions in...   Jun 6 2015, 08:29 PM
- - Gladstoner   It is tricky to discern the orientation of the val...   Jun 8 2015, 08:42 AM
|- - Daniele_bianchino_Italy   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Jun 8 2015, 08:42 AM)...   Jun 9 2015, 02:17 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (Daniele_bianchino_Italy @ Jun 9 2015, ...   Jun 9 2015, 03:53 PM
- - Floyd   QUOTE (scalbers @ Jun 5 2015, 07:07 PM) H...   Jun 8 2015, 09:25 AM
- - scalbers   I'm glad to see such helpful good eyes on this...   Jun 8 2015, 04:49 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I was still trying to figure out which lake it was...   Jun 9 2015, 12:55 AM
|- - Webscientist   I ve seen spot 5 in a dream last night. spot 5 cor...   Jun 9 2015, 11:58 AM
- - Floyd   QUOTE (scalbers @ Jun 8 2015, 12:49 PM) I...   Jun 9 2015, 01:08 PM
- - Daniele_bianchino_Italy   QUOTE (Ian R @ Jun 5 2015, 04:54 PM) What...   Jun 9 2015, 05:34 PM
- - Gladstoner   New image: http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/im...   Jun 9 2015, 07:26 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Jun 9 2015, 02:26 PM)...   Jun 9 2015, 07:49 PM
- - Habukaz   Dimmer bright spots in another crater in the lates...   Jun 9 2015, 07:28 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (Habukaz @ Jun 9 2015, 01:28 PM) Ed...   Jun 9 2015, 07:34 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Jun 9 2015, 08:34 PM)...   Jun 9 2015, 08:02 PM
- - Gladstoner   Context of latest image: Spot 5 isn't too f...   Jun 9 2015, 07:46 PM
- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 9 2015, 02:49 PM) I...   Jun 9 2015, 10:09 PM
- - katodomo   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 9 2015, 02:55 AM...   Jun 10 2015, 06:03 AM
- - Habukaz   Region 5 is still a mystery from the Survey orbit....   Jun 10 2015, 01:43 PM
- - pitcapuozzo   New image of the bright spots on June 6th, from 44...   Jun 10 2015, 01:45 PM
|- - Jaro_in_Montreal   QUOTE (pitcapuozzo @ Jun 10 2015, 01:45 P...   Jun 10 2015, 01:58 PM
- - Habukaz   Also in the release is, among other things, a nice...   Jun 10 2015, 01:56 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (Habukaz @ Jun 10 2015, 03:56 PM) A...   Jun 11 2015, 03:37 AM
- - volcanopele   Those look like compression artifacts to me. I th...   Jun 10 2015, 02:06 PM
|- - alk3997   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jun 10 2015, 08:06 A...   Jun 10 2015, 03:18 PM
|- - fredk   I don't know what the bit depth of the origina...   Jun 10 2015, 05:03 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (alk3997 @ Jun 10 2015, 09:18 AM) T...   Jun 10 2015, 08:12 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 10 2015, 03:12 PM) ...   Jun 11 2015, 06:32 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (stevesliva @ Jun 11 2015, 01:32 PM...   Jun 11 2015, 07:26 PM
- - ngunn   [Maybe the last few posts should be in a new threa...   Jun 10 2015, 03:08 PM
- - pitcapuozzo   I'm not a photographic expert, could they try ...   Jun 10 2015, 04:10 PM
- - Paolo   shouldn't we start a new thread? the latest pi...   Jun 10 2015, 04:17 PM
- - Phil Stooke   "I'm not a photographic expert, could the...   Jun 10 2015, 04:25 PM
|- - pitcapuozzo   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 10 2015, 06:25 P...   Jun 10 2015, 05:05 PM
- - Gladstoner   A comparison of crater floor terrain and albedo:   Jun 10 2015, 05:39 PM
- - Gladstoner   Matching up features:   Jun 10 2015, 07:04 PM
- - Jackbauer   Show time : 3 more !   Jun 11 2015, 01:40 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Please link to the original images at the Dawn web...   Jun 11 2015, 03:08 AM
- - Gladstoner   Ceres spot in the parking lot? Fracture/condui...   Jun 11 2015, 07:25 AM
- - ZLD   And is that a giant pair of feet?! Aliens conf...   Jun 11 2015, 01:56 PM
- - Gladstoner   New image, contrast enhanced:   Jun 11 2015, 06:14 PM
|- - Julius   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Jun 11 2015, 07:14 PM...   Jun 13 2015, 06:51 AM
- - ngunn   Great view of the 'sand dollar' in the upp...   Jun 11 2015, 06:45 PM
- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 10 2015, 03:12 PM) ...   Jun 11 2015, 10:36 PM
- - John Broughton   This is a section of the floor of the western of t...   Jun 12 2015, 06:01 AM
- - Gladstoner   In the newest release, another crater with a centr...   Jun 12 2015, 10:47 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Jun 13 2015, 12:47 AM...   Jun 13 2015, 02:02 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (TheAnt @ Jun 13 2015, 09:02 AM) In...   Jun 13 2015, 03:24 PM
- - dvandorn   I'm agreeing a lot with John's points abov...   Jun 13 2015, 12:29 AM
- - Ian R   The Piazzi dark feature, and its proximity to the ...   Jun 13 2015, 11:18 AM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (Ian R @ Jun 13 2015, 06:18 AM) The...   Jun 13 2015, 03:28 PM
- - scalbers   Here is an updated map, adding 3 recent higher res...   Jun 13 2015, 02:26 PM
|- - Greenish   QUOTE (scalbers @ Jun 13 2015, 10:26 AM) ...   Jun 15 2015, 06:27 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Central pit craters are common on Ganymede and Cal...   Jun 13 2015, 03:39 PM
- - MarkG   Again, it helps to consider the profound ancient-n...   Jun 15 2015, 05:44 PM
- - Sherbert   I have been thinking along those lines too Phil. T...   Jun 15 2015, 07:30 PM
- - alan   QUOTE Once ejected onto the floor of the crater an...   Jun 16 2015, 06:15 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Greenish - fantastic maps, thanks for doing that. ...   Jun 17 2015, 02:10 AM
|- - Greenish   Phil - Glad they are of use.... all credit to scal...   Jun 17 2015, 04:43 PM
- - nprev   Quick note: Please post work from & comments r...   Jun 17 2015, 04:01 AM
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