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MahFL
post Mar 5 2014, 12:53 AM
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post Jun 18 2015, 12:27 PM
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I'm not complaining, but I'm wondering what this mission will accomplish that the Galileo mission didn't. Both spacecraft have a magnetometer, dust detector, cameras and UV instruments. The Europa mission will also conduct flybys rather than orbit Europa just like Galileo. With the exception of the radar and more advanced versions of the instruments Galileo had, what do scientists hope to get that they couldn't get from Galileo?
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post Jun 18 2015, 03:26 PM
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what do scientists hope to get that they couldn't get from Galileo?


Data..


Galileo - 120bps.

Europa Mission - probably three orders of magnitude more.

Globe maps of Europa at significantly higher resolution that currently available

Instruments 30 years more modern than those on Galileo.

And - there may be a lander along for the ride.

What will we get from this mission that we didn't get from Galileo?

EVERYTHING.
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- MahFL   NASA Europa Missions   Mar 5 2014, 12:53 AM
- - vexgizmo   But would that mission do any science? And would ...   Mar 8 2014, 04:35 PM
- - 0101Morpheus   To add to the above, it is not known if these plum...   Mar 9 2014, 11:20 PM
- - Roly   I appreciate that Europa missions are amongst the ...   Mar 11 2014, 10:56 AM
- - vjkane   I looked at various options that may be considered...   Mar 12 2014, 08:06 AM
- - Roly   Dear Van, Many thanks for this - the post was pr...   Mar 12 2014, 11:27 AM
- - Vultur   I dunno if this is the right place for this... but...   Mar 15 2014, 08:49 PM
- - nprev   Because the ice crust may be recycled over reasona...   Mar 15 2014, 09:42 PM
|- - Vultur   QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 15 2014, 09:42 PM) Bec...   Mar 16 2014, 06:26 AM
|- - JRehling   The age of Europa's surface is approximately 6...   Mar 16 2014, 02:26 PM
- - dvandorn   I also believe that while Europa may recycle crust...   Mar 16 2014, 12:40 PM
- - Explorer1   Anything on the surface will be fried by the radia...   Mar 16 2014, 08:14 PM
- - dvandorn   Yes, materials right on the surface of Europa woul...   Mar 16 2014, 08:56 PM
- - Explorer1   I see your point. I figured any future landings wo...   Mar 16 2014, 10:29 PM
- - algorimancer   Some years back I was contemplating the possibilit...   Mar 17 2014, 08:28 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Mar 17 2014, 01:28 ...   Mar 17 2014, 09:31 PM
- - ngunn   First, a big round of applause for DSN Now. Every...   Mar 17 2014, 10:04 PM
- - djellison   Doesn't matter if you get your delta-V from mo...   Mar 17 2014, 10:22 PM
- - Explorer1   But saving all that mass by not carrying a giganti...   Mar 17 2014, 11:17 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Mar 17 2014, 04:17 PM)...   Mar 18 2014, 02:22 AM
- - Explorer1   Oh, I know it's all SF (per Doug's reply t...   Mar 18 2014, 02:49 AM
- - dvandorn   Actually, the concept of a self-navigating Earth-r...   Mar 18 2014, 03:18 AM
- - monitorlizard   As far as maximizing science return for minimum co...   Mar 18 2014, 04:43 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (monitorlizard @ Mar 17 2014, 09:43...   Mar 18 2014, 05:18 AM
- - monitorlizard   I am not an expert in such things, but I was think...   Mar 18 2014, 05:48 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (monitorlizard @ Mar 17 2014, 10:48...   Mar 18 2014, 11:58 AM
|- - vjkane   My understanding is that the core spacecraft elect...   Mar 18 2014, 03:47 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (vjkane @ Mar 18 2014, 08:47 AM) My...   Mar 18 2014, 04:48 PM
- - Roly   Many thanks Mcaplinger, this was very interesting ...   Mar 19 2014, 02:22 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Roly @ Mar 18 2014, 07:22 PM) On t...   Mar 19 2014, 03:32 AM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 19 2014, 04:32 AM...   Mar 19 2014, 12:08 PM
|- - JRehling   Although it pains me to see Europa exploration fur...   Mar 19 2014, 04:30 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (JRehling @ Mar 19 2014, 09:30 AM) ...   Mar 19 2014, 11:14 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (vjkane @ Mar 20 2014, 12:14 AM) .....   Mar 20 2014, 12:10 AM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (vjkane @ Mar 19 2014, 06:14 PM) Id...   Mar 21 2014, 03:03 AM
|- - JRehling   It's not that we should plan a sample return, ...   Mar 21 2014, 07:11 PM
- - Roly   My thanks for your appraisal Mcaplinger, that make...   Mar 19 2014, 04:56 AM
- - mcaplinger   http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/europa/sdt2013.cfm has...   Mar 21 2014, 07:48 PM
- - CryptoEngineer   The Planetary Society is reporting today that a (n...   Feb 3 2015, 04:49 AM
|- - gpurcell   Looks like a lander of some sort is still a possib...   May 9 2015, 02:11 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (gpurcell @ May 9 2015, 09:11 AM) L...   May 9 2015, 03:33 PM
|- - Habukaz   QUOTE (gpurcell @ May 9 2015, 04:11 PM) L...   May 9 2015, 05:27 PM
- - DEChengst   News Conference coming up later today on NASA TV. ...   May 26 2015, 03:34 PM
- - Explorer1   Another stream starting here too: https://www.yout...   May 26 2015, 05:51 PM
- - scalbers   Interesting news conference overall on the instrum...   May 26 2015, 06:52 PM
- - Mariner9   I just read the blog posting on the instrumenta ov...   May 27 2015, 03:26 AM
- - dvandorn   Well, think about it. If you're prospecting f...   May 27 2015, 04:59 AM
|- - JRehling   Keep in mind that there are at least two different...   May 27 2015, 11:15 PM
- - monitorlizard   I'm surprised that there is no laser altimeter...   May 27 2015, 05:09 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (monitorlizard @ May 26 2015, 09:09...   May 27 2015, 02:58 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (monitorlizard @ May 26 2015, 09:09...   May 28 2015, 04:12 AM
- - nprev   I would think that altimetry information would be ...   May 27 2015, 05:25 AM
- - TheAnt   @monitorlizard: A laser altimeter would be great o...   May 28 2015, 10:24 AM
- - Habukaz   The Europa mission has entered a new phase (and ha...   Jun 17 2015, 10:18 PM
- - pioneer   I'm not complaining, but I'm wondering wha...   Jun 18 2015, 12:27 PM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (pioneer @ Jun 18 2015, 12:27 PM) I...   Jun 18 2015, 01:07 PM
|- - Y Bar Ranch   QUOTE (pioneer @ Jun 18 2015, 07:27 AM) I...   Jun 18 2015, 02:44 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (pioneer @ Jun 18 2015, 05:27 AM) w...   Jun 18 2015, 03:26 PM
||- - tedstryk   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 18 2015, 03:26 PM)...   Jun 18 2015, 11:51 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (pioneer @ Jun 18 2015, 04:27 AM) I...   Jun 19 2015, 12:29 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (pioneer @ Jun 18 2015, 05:27 AM) w...   Jun 21 2015, 09:58 PM
|- - pioneer   Thanks everyone for all your replies   Jun 21 2015, 10:35 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Pioneer - Galileo was useful for what it gave us, ...   Jun 18 2015, 02:18 PM
- - Decepticon   I was looking around for some information on Europ...   Jun 21 2015, 05:54 PM
- - nprev   Cassini doesn't have a scan platform; has not ...   Jun 21 2015, 06:15 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 21 2015, 08:15 PM) Cas...   Jun 21 2015, 07:24 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 21 2015, 11:15 AM) Cas...   Jun 22 2015, 01:58 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (vjkane @ Jun 22 2015, 02:58 AM) Ac...   Jun 22 2015, 11:34 AM
- - Decepticon   QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 21 2015, 01:15 PM) Cas...   Jun 21 2015, 07:31 PM
- - nprev   It's true that Cassini's scan platform was...   Jun 21 2015, 08:12 PM
- - Decepticon   Found a High Res image. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/im...   Jun 22 2015, 03:15 AM
- - ngunn   Great article on Europa from Mike Brown with a lan...   Oct 27 2015, 07:36 PM
|- - JRehling   The Europa science and plans are exciting, as Euro...   Oct 28 2015, 04:45 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 28 2015, 08:45 AM) ...   Nov 2 2015, 10:23 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (vjkane @ Nov 2 2015, 03:23 PM) The...   Nov 3 2015, 01:16 AM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (JRehling @ Nov 2 2015, 05:16 PM) I...   Nov 6 2015, 05:13 AM
- - Explorer1   ESA wants to jump in now too, with an unspecified ...   Jan 7 2016, 12:02 AM
- - scalbers   Without getting too political, it's interestin...   Jan 7 2016, 06:18 PM
- - antipode   This could be the moment where high speed penetrat...   Jan 7 2016, 10:38 PM
- - nprev   As I recall, penetrators have been proposed in the...   Jan 8 2016, 01:59 AM
- - Explorer1   How plausible are solar panels for such a mission?...   Jan 8 2016, 03:31 AM
|- - katodomo   Beginning-of-life efficiency on current production...   Jan 8 2016, 01:36 PM
- - Explorer1   Thanks for the info; looks the weight constraints ...   Jan 8 2016, 08:42 PM
|- - katodomo   There's a JPL analysis on that here: http://ww...   Jan 8 2016, 11:45 PM
- - Jaro_in_Montreal   Lander rocket exhaust effects on Europa regolith n...   Dec 27 2016, 03:29 PM
|- - Steve5304   QUOTE (Jaro_in_Montreal @ Dec 27 2016, 04...   Dec 28 2016, 09:17 PM
- - Explorer1   Science definition report completed (with lander c...   Feb 9 2017, 07:49 AM
- - Habukaz   QUOTE The SDT was tasked with developing a life-de...   Feb 9 2017, 10:17 AM
- - bobik   A brief description of the Joint Europa Mission (J...   Feb 9 2017, 07:12 PM
- - Roby72   https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/03/16/trump...l-pa...   Mar 16 2017, 11:50 PM
- - nprev   ADMIN NOTE: As a reminder to esp. our newer member...   Mar 17 2017, 01:35 AM
- - Explorer1   There's not much news here in terms of the lan...   Mar 17 2017, 04:57 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Mar 16 2017, 09:57 PM)...   Mar 18 2017, 04:06 PM
- - Decepticon   Im confused is the Europa Clipper mission still ha...   Mar 18 2017, 10:01 PM
|- - JRehling   Perhaps a source of confusion: There was a mission...   Mar 19 2017, 10:40 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (JRehling @ Mar 19 2017, 02:40 PM) ...   Mar 20 2017, 12:11 AM
- - nprev   Europa Clipper is on. The putative Europa Lander i...   Mar 18 2017, 10:21 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 18 2017, 02:21 PM) Eur...   Mar 19 2017, 12:23 AM
- - djellison   Yeah...what's now called Clipper was known as ...   Mar 20 2017, 05:14 AM
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