New Horizons Arrives At Ksc |
New Horizons Arrives At Ksc |
Sep 26 2005, 09:56 PM
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NASA Press Release
APL press release Space.com Article Coming up... October: communications checks November: hydrazine loading and Atlas V countdown rehearsal December: integration with Atlas V January: LAUNCH! No pictures on the KSC webcams yet. But still pictures here. Is that the flight RTG attached to the spacecraft? Or just a dummy? |
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Sep 28 2005, 04:06 PM
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But how many RTGs are actually on board?
Earlier ... --- Half of the plutonium for New Horizons was on hand when DoE stopped work at the nuclear weapons plant in July 2004. A total of 36 of the 72 fuel units ordered had been left over from a spare RTG built earlier for NASA's Galileo and Cassini missions. When the lab shut down, it had 18 more units in the works. The 2006 launch will go ahead with as few as 61 fuel units. Los Alamos scientists could convert plutonium bought from Russia into pellets packaged in hockey-puck-sized containers. Then the Argonne National Laboratory at Idaho Falls would put those RTG containers into the RTG. An RTG with a full load of 72 fuel units can deliver 200 watts of electricity. With only half of its fuel, 36 fuel units, it could deliver about 100 watts. With a minimum of 61 fuel units, the RTG could provide 170 watts of electrical power. The electricity would be used to power seven science instruments and spacecraft systems aboard New Horizons. --- -------------------- - blue_scape / Nico -
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Sep 28 2005, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (SigurRosFan @ Sep 28 2005, 05:06 PM) But how many RTGs are actually on board? ..... An RTG with a full load of 72 fuel units can deliver 200 watts of electricity. With only half of its fuel, 36 fuel units, it could deliver about 100 watts. With a minimum of 61 fuel units, the RTG could provide 170 watts of electrical power. The electricity would be used to power seven science instruments and spacecraft systems aboard New Horizons. --- Not sure but Alan Stern's message here on Feb 19th says: QUOTE The RTG and the necessary fuel are both in good shape. Previous problems resolved. All needed fuel is now ready. We expect 190 W or a tad more at Pluto in mid-2015. The s/c requires ~165W, so there is a healthy margin. The launch approval process has begun, and will take the remainder of the year to complete. These RTG's degrade at around 0.79% per annum so 190W at Pluto (mid 2015) works back to around 205W now and should still be >165Watts in 2031. Alan commented later: QUOTE This depends on when we launch in the 2006 window or the backup 2007 window because the exit velocity varies with launch date. The basic answer is that predicts show that we have sufficient power to run out to 2025, which corresponds to ~50-60 AU if all goes well. So basically, no worries, loadsa juice. Let's just all do our bit to make sure that we don't let woowoo panic merchants hamper the launch. Actually I've just been re-reading the whole thred - it's well worth it. |
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Sep 28 2005, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (helvick @ Sep 28 2005, 07:50 PM) 0.79%? I thought the spacecrafts RTG generally loses 3 to 5 watts of power-generating capacity a year. What is correct? -------------------- - blue_scape / Nico -
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Sep 28 2005, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE (SigurRosFan @ Sep 28 2005, 08:29 PM) 0.79%? I thought the spacecrafts RTG generally loses 3 to 5 watts of power-generating capacity a year. What is correct? The loss is exponential not linear - it follows the half life of Pu-238 (more or less) which is around 87.7 years. So after 87.7 years you would have 50% of the power you have right now. |
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Sep 29 2005, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE (helvick @ Sep 28 2005, 08:24 PM) The loss is exponential not linear - it follows the half life of Pu-238 (more or less) which is around 87.7 years. So after 87.7 years you would have 50% of the power you have right now. Add to this the degradation of the thermocouple junctions by the neutron flux. Semiconductors are used to build thermocouples to convert the heat into electricity, and these semiconductors crystals must be perfect and very pure, and thus they are very sensitive to impurities and crystal defects. The neutrons emanating from the RTG heat sources are not very numerous, but they can transmute some of the semiconductor atoms, forming impurities. Or most probably the atom recoil and secondary beta/alpha emissions will disrupt the crystal lattice. I am sure of what I say, having worked in the domain. But I cannot give figures about the degradation rate. It is slow enough to allow Cassini (and Pioneer and Voyager) to work, but Cassini will be very probably out of power before being out of nuclear fuel. Add to this that the thermodynamic efficiency of the convertion of heat into electricity may decrease with the temperature of the heat sources. |
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Sep 29 2005, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Sep 29 2005, 11:16 AM) It is slow enough to allow Cassini (and Pioneer and Voyager) to work, but Cassini will be very probably out of power before being out of nuclear fuel. You're quite right - even though these are solid state devices there is some level lof degradation over time which is why I said that it follows the half of Pu-238 more or less. Its a long time since I did any nuclear physics but I don't recall that there are any Neutrons emitted as part of the Pu-238 decay cycle. (Pu238->U235+Alpha and all subsequent decays are "Nasty Radioactive Isotope"+Alpha|Beta|Gamma ... Lead). It's still a stressful environment for the thermocouple but the dominant component of the loss of power should be the fuel's half life. |
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Guest_Richard Trigaux_* |
Sep 29 2005, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (helvick @ Sep 29 2005, 05:15 PM) You're quite right - even though these are solid state devices there is some level lof degradation over time which is why I said that it follows the half of Pu-238 more or less. Its a long time since I did any nuclear physics but I don't recall that there are any Neutrons emitted as part of the Pu-238 decay cycle. (Pu238->U235+Alpha and all subsequent decays are "Nasty Radioactive Isotope"+Alpha|Beta|Gamma ... Lead). It's still a stressful environment for the thermocouple but the dominant component of the loss of power should be the fuel's half life. Pu238 undergo a very small percentage of spontaneous fission, see here even more than Pu239. So we can expect that there are neutrons. I also remembered when I worked about this I saw a Cassini radiation map, indicating a neutron flux centered on the RTGs. Weak, but enough to damage certain electronic parts in the long run. This is the reason why the RTGs are often mounted at the end of long booms. For NH it is much closer, I am astonished. Perhaps electronic components are better today. |
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