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Paolo
post Mar 13 2010, 11:29 AM
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I thought it was time to start a separate thread on this mission, launching soon
some good medium-resolution images of the spacecraft are available on JAXA digital archives
http://jda.jaxa.jp/jda/p3_e.php?time=N&...mp;mission=4066
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post May 3 2016, 01:01 AM
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I just want to chime in a note of thanks to you for your work in translating these documents, pandaneko.


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post May 4 2016, 12:12 AM
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Example 3: Clarifyinng mechanism for complex patterns (UVI+LIR)

(1st character set after above in yellow box):

In particular, complex abosrption patterns in dark area

(2nd character set):

Are solar light absorbing materials lifted from lower height?
Are they newly chemically produced at cloud tops?
Are they moved horizontally?
What kind of convection, pulsage, random flow currents are involved?

(3rd character set in yellow box):

Very clear boundary between dark and light regions

(4th character set):

In particular, complex absorption patterns in dark area
Is there a barrier of horizontal mixture of absorbing material and haze (translation unsure, P)?
Is new aerosol produced in a particular area?

(5th character set):

Clarify air mass transport and change (?) process at cloud top from observing distribution of absorption materials and haze (UVI),
cloud temp. variation with height (LIR), wind velocity disribution form cloud tracing

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post May 4 2016, 12:16 AM
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I have this nagging thought. In fact, I have had it for long time by now.

If Akatsuki was able to enter a kind of orbit around Venus with its smaller
engines, then why did they bother with the larger engine that failed?

They could have designed a craft with a few more of these smaller engines and
made Akatsuki go around in a proper circle? Tha wouod have been a lot cheaper?

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post May 4 2016, 05:48 PM
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No spacecraft has ever entered a close-in circular orbit around another planet without aerobraking. Orbits like that have only been achieved at Venus (Magellan being the only case) and Mars (several cases, but much less planetary mass).

An elliptical orbit with a low periapsis is pretty good for many scientific purposes. Akatsuki, like Venus Express, Mars Express, and all pre-Nineties Mars/Venus orbiters are/were able to get periodic close-ups along with regular global monitoring. Given that Venus doesn't have seasons, it seems like a pretty good option to have a Venus atmosphere observer in an orbit like Akatsuki's, to collect both close-up and global monitoring, although an orbit like that would have drastically compromised the goals of surface-mapping missions like Magellan or Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter.
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post May 4 2016, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE (JRehling @ May 5 2016, 02:48 AM) *
An elliptical orbit with a low periapsis is pretty good for many scientific purposes.


Thank you for this. "periapsis" and a counterpart to it are the words I should have been using
in some places of my translation. Instead, I always use "nearest Sun"etc etc because I can never
distinguish them and remember which is which.

It took me 15 to 20 years to learn the difference between latitude and longtitude, after all.
So, my excuses...

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- Paolo   Akatsuki Venus Climate Orbiter   Mar 13 2010, 11:29 AM
- - nprev   QUOTE (pandaneko @ Apr 17 2016, 03:26 PM)...   Apr 18 2016, 04:30 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-13 2. Prepertion status of individual instru...   Apr 19 2016, 12:49 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-15 Observstion result by IR1(1mm came...   Apr 19 2016, 01:04 AM
|- - belleraphon1   Thank you so much pandaneko Been waiting for your...   Apr 19 2016, 05:54 PM
|- - pandaneko   Page-16 Result of observation (3) by IR1(1...   Apr 19 2016, 11:39 PM
||- - pandaneko   Page-17 Observstion result (1) by IR 2 (2m...   Apr 19 2016, 11:41 PM
|- - pandaneko   I now have located a copy of another, earlier JAXA...   Apr 20 2016, 04:15 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-19 Test observation result (1) by LIR...   Apr 20 2016, 11:52 PM
- - elakdawalla   I just want to chime in a note of thanks to you fo...   May 3 2016, 01:01 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-30 Example 3: Clarifyinng mechanism for comp...   May 4 2016, 12:12 AM
|- - pandaneko   I have this nagging thought. In fact, I have had i...   May 4 2016, 12:16 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-31 Example 4: Clarifying transport mechanism...   May 4 2016, 01:06 AM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (pandaneko @ May 4 2016, 01:16 AM) ...   May 4 2016, 05:10 AM
|- - JRehling   No spacecraft has ever entered a close-in circular...   May 4 2016, 05:48 PM
||- - pandaneko   Page-31 Example 5: (title): Clarifying atmosphe...   May 4 2016, 10:39 PM
||- - pandaneko   QUOTE (JRehling @ May 5 2016, 02:48 AM) A...   May 4 2016, 10:46 PM
||- - pandaneko   Page number of the last translated page shoud be 3...   May 4 2016, 10:52 PM
||- - pandaneko   Page-36 IR1: 1mm camera By using 1 mm wave lengt...   May 4 2016, 11:08 PM
||- - pandaneko   Page-37 IR2: 2mm camera 1. By using wave length...   May 5 2016, 02:05 AM
||- - pandaneko   Page-38 LIR: Mid infra red camera This camera is...   May 5 2016, 05:29 AM
||- - pandaneko   Page-39 UVI: Ultra violet imager By imaging the...   May 5 2016, 05:45 AM
||- - pandaneko   Page-40 LAC: Lightening and atmospheric light cam...   May 5 2016, 06:06 AM
||- - pandaneko   Page-41 USO: Ultra stable oscillator This is us...   May 5 2016, 07:03 AM
||- - pandaneko   In the immediate wake of this year's report I ...   May 5 2016, 07:59 AM
||- - pandaneko   Page-3 Mission Objectives 1. Earth and Venus are...   May 5 2016, 08:26 AM
||- - pandaneko   Page-4 Mission objective (above two graphical im...   May 5 2016, 08:28 AM
||- - pandaneko   Page-5 Main events up to now (right hand side str...   May 5 2016, 08:30 AM
|- - cndwrld   QUOTE (pandaneko @ May 4 2016, 02:16 AM) ...   May 5 2016, 08:29 AM
|- - pandaneko   cndwrid Gracias y mucho obligado. Le entiendo muy...   May 5 2016, 08:37 AM
|- - gwiz   You can get the same velocity change out of your p...   May 5 2016, 09:41 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-11 (Page title): Akatsuki's health Aka...   May 7 2016, 02:22 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-13 (Note that page-12 does not have characte...   May 7 2016, 02:50 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-15 Atmospheric circulation on earth type pla...   May 7 2016, 03:40 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-17 Various hypotheses about super rotation ...   May 7 2016, 03:58 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-18 How are sulfulic acid clouds formed on Ve...   May 7 2016, 08:38 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-19 (Top): Venusian activities and lightening...   May 7 2016, 09:17 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-21 Scientific instruments (1) 1. 1μm c...   May 7 2016, 11:10 PM
|- - pandaneko   Page-22 Scientific instruments (2) 5. Mid infra...   May 7 2016, 11:32 PM
|- - pandaneko   Page-25 Wind velocity field from tracing cloud bl...   May 8 2016, 12:02 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-27 Instrument status (bottom catption for ...   May 8 2016, 12:33 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-29 Observation plan after orbit insertion ...   May 8 2016, 08:35 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-30 This is about sucess criteria and it has ...   May 8 2016, 08:55 AM
|- - pandaneko   QUOTE (pandaneko @ May 8 2016, 05:55 PM) ...   May 9 2016, 04:43 AM
- - Hungry4info   I can't say for certain that this is the case,...   May 4 2016, 12:31 AM
|- - pandaneko   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ May 4 2016, 09:31 AM...   May 4 2016, 05:33 AM
- - hendric   Like in Akatsuki, sometimes the rockets for the at...   May 5 2016, 05:26 PM
|- - pandaneko   Page-6 Schedule on 6 December 2015 6/Dec d...   May 5 2016, 10:23 PM
||- - pandaneko   Page-7 Orbit diagram at time of orbit insertion a...   May 5 2016, 11:02 PM
||- - pandaneko   Page-8 (page title): Orbit at time of insertion a...   May 7 2016, 01:05 AM
|- - pandaneko   Page-9 (page title): Engines to be used (inside ...   May 7 2016, 01:45 AM
- - Paolo   atmosphere animations from IR2 (in Japanese) http...   May 23 2016, 06:29 AM
|- - JRehling   WOW. After I watched it about ten times, I noticed...   May 23 2016, 04:46 PM
|- - pandaneko   Thanks, Paolo The caption is as follows. Animati...   May 25 2016, 01:08 AM
|- - pandaneko   Big apologies! not 10 times, but yes, 10 degr...   May 25 2016, 01:13 AM
- - atomoid   Fascinating, its a 16-hour sequence.. I don't ...   May 23 2016, 11:16 PM
|- - JRehling   It's a challenge to get coverage sufficient to...   May 24 2016, 06:44 PM
- - nprev   Congratulations on your efforts being featured in ...   May 25 2016, 03:33 AM
|- - pandaneko   QUOTE (nprev @ May 25 2016, 12:33 PM) Con...   May 28 2016, 09:58 AM
- - colin_wilson   For what it's worth, here's my list of Ven...   Jun 16 2016, 09:27 AM
- - katodomo   Since you list flybys - the table is missing Ikaro...   Jun 16 2016, 12:46 PM
- - Paolo   a short update with lots of new images. first Venu...   Jul 29 2016, 07:04 AM
|- - JRehling   Those images are great. What's impressive is t...   Jul 29 2016, 06:44 PM
- - antipode   Nature Geoscience article. Abstract with some smal...   Jan 18 2017, 06:00 AM
- - Paolo   a release in Japanese, with descent size images: h...   Jan 18 2017, 12:39 PM
|- - pandaneko   QUOTE (Paolo @ Jan 18 2017, 09:39 PM) a r...   Jan 22 2017, 01:13 AM
|- - rlorenz   Some unhappy news http://www.isas.jaxa.jp/en/topic...   Mar 5 2017, 02:16 PM
|- - JRehling   With the loss of the IR cameras coming about 10 mo...   Jun 11 2017, 06:22 PM
- - Paolo   I read the paper in Nature geo. the impressive thi...   Jan 19 2017, 12:48 PM
- - Paolo   A new press release (in Japanese only, for the tim...   Aug 29 2017, 02:14 PM
|- - JRehling   I'm not able to read the full article, and Goo...   Aug 29 2017, 05:07 PM
|- - pandaneko   Thanks, Paolo I have translated this article as f...   Jan 2 2018, 03:42 AM
- - Paolo   the paper is now on arXiv: Equatorial jet in the l...   Sep 8 2017, 05:32 AM
- - Paolo   JAXA has released an image of Venus showing also t...   Dec 8 2017, 06:24 AM
- - elakdawalla   Augh, the site is timing out for me. If I can get ...   Dec 8 2017, 07:57 PM
- - Paolo   it worked this morning (European time) but now it...   Dec 8 2017, 08:19 PM
|- - JRehling   It's working for me now, for what it's wor...   Dec 11 2017, 04:22 PM
- - Ant103   I did some processing by myself after a dive into ...   Dec 22 2017, 10:49 AM
- - antipode   Wow! Awesome. Thanks Ant.... P   Dec 23 2017, 04:54 AM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   This is clearly a very interesting data set. These...   Dec 23 2017, 06:34 PM
- - marsbug   I've been away from this thread for far too lo...   Jan 7 2018, 12:03 AM
- - scalbers   One fine point about the main text. I think the vi...   Jan 7 2018, 12:38 AM
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