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Brian Burns
post Jul 29 2016, 09:32 PM
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Sorry if this has been discussed anywhere but I can't seem to find much information about it - why is it that Voyager's pointing is so haphazard, as in this video of all the RAW Jupiter images - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf5QJ8iFxUs?

I came across this link which says that pointing information for the images exists - http://pds-rings.seti.org/voyager/ck.html, but have also read on this forum that it's not very accurate. Would the information be useful in automatically aligning composite images and mosaics, or is it too coarse? Would it at least be useful in getting general alignments that could be refined by hand?

And does anyone know why the cameras could not be pointed more accurately, or why accurate information could not be returned with the images? I assume it was some technical limitation, but just curious what it might be.
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Brian Burns
post Aug 3 2016, 08:58 PM
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The links to the downloads on the C kernels page weren't working so I wrote to Mark Showalter - he is working on C-smithing the Cassini kernels right now, and plans to C-smith the Voyager kernels once the Cassini data is done, which might be another year or so.

So regarding the accuracy of the C kernels - for the kernels obtained from the SEDR data:

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Long experience with the SEDR file has revealed its pointing information to be
accurate to typically ~ 100 narrow-angle pixels, which is equivalent to ~ 0.05
degrees or ~ 1 milliradian.

This C kernel was generated by the PDS Rings Node. We hope to generate improved
C kernels (continuous and C-smithed) at a later date.

http://pds-rings.seti.org/voyager/ck/vg1_j...e1_iss_sedr.txt


and for the C-smithed kernels (just Voyager 1 at Saturn at the moment), obtained from the SEDR data with some corrections:

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The pointing information was "C-smithed" using two additional sources of data:

(1) Mark Showalter's personal collection of pointing corrections for 834
Voyager 1 images of Saturn and the rings.

(2) A collection of SEDR updates obtained from JPL/MIPL for 259 images
of Saturn's satellites. These udpates date back to the early 1990s.

In general, pointing information should be accurate to the level of a few tens
of narrow-angle pixels, i.e., ~ 0.01 degrees or ~0.2 milliradians. However, some
errors may be larger, particularly around the closest approach period when the
scan platform was moving rapidly.

http://pds-rings.seti.org/voyager/ck/V1SAT...SS_CSMITHED.txt


So at the moment they wouldn't be accurate enough to reconstruct the movies, but maybe having centered and corrected images would be helpful in constructing more accurate C kernels.

I'm still working on setting up a usable system - at the moment it's a bit laborious to correct the mis-centered images - ideally it would be tied into an image editor where you could outline the target with a circle and have it write a record to the centering corrections file. And then for aligning channels for the closeups it could start with the existing C kernels and run some image alignment code, then let the user do any fine tuning in an editor - similarly for the mosaics. There are thousands of images, so it would need to be pretty simple and easy to do.

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- Brian Burns   Voyager camera pointing information   Jul 29 2016, 09:32 PM
- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Brian Burns @ Jul 29 2016, 01:32 P...   Jul 29 2016, 09:45 PM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   The north azimuth that can be determined using the...   Jul 29 2016, 11:22 PM
- - Brian Burns   Okay, thank you both for the information - it all ...   Jul 30 2016, 02:01 AM
- - Brian Burns   The links to the downloads on the C kernels page w...   Aug 3 2016, 08:58 PM
- - JohnVV   you have read through my post "Voyager Image...   Aug 3 2016, 11:51 PM
|- - Brian Burns   Thanks for the link, I haven't tried ISIS yet ...   Aug 4 2016, 03:12 AM
- - Ian R   Without correction for geometric distortion, the J...   Aug 4 2016, 05:30 PM
|- - Brian Burns   QUOTE (Ian R @ Aug 4 2016, 11:30 AM) With...   Aug 4 2016, 07:20 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (Brian Burns @ Aug 4 2016, 07:20 PM...   Aug 5 2016, 12:01 AM
|- - Brian Burns   That's good to know about, thanks - I'd re...   Aug 5 2016, 02:59 AM
- - JohnVV   i use gmic ( was called GREYCstoration ) but it e...   Aug 5 2016, 04:54 AM
|- - Brian Burns   Thanks, G'mic looks interesting, especially if...   Aug 5 2016, 05:53 PM
- - Brian Burns   I've been having trouble getting camera pointi...   Aug 27 2016, 03:33 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Brian Burns @ Aug 27 2016, 07:33 A...   Aug 27 2016, 04:53 PM
|- - Brian Burns   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Aug 27 2016, 11:53 AM...   Aug 27 2016, 05:45 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Brian Burns @ Aug 27 2016, 09:45 A...   Aug 27 2016, 07:39 PM
|- - Brian Burns   I found the problem - somehow in all the permutati...   Aug 27 2016, 10:19 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Brian Burns @ Aug 27 2016, 02:19 P...   Aug 27 2016, 10:21 PM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (Brian Burns @ Aug 27 2016, 05:45 P...   Aug 28 2016, 11:55 PM
- - Brian Burns   Thanks - I guess this means there are gaps in the ...   Aug 29 2016, 05:22 AM


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