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post Jul 5 2016, 07:53 PM
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This topic will consist of discussion of Juno operations post-JOI until end of mission, currently anticipated in Feb 2018.


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post Aug 3 2016, 12:54 AM
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Ah, yes, this could resolve the discrepancy. I've seen material from Earth's moon from less than a meter distance, and it looked perfectly grey. But it likely wasn't directly from the surface. If Moon's surface reddens from space weathering, then it should look reddish, consistent with the appearence of Moon in EFB01, after I've been following your advice to use Earth's clouds as white calibration targets. (One of the (large!) resulting processed EFB12 files here.) However, the color of the clouds aren't quite uniform, so this a compromise.
Since then I've applied the weights (0.74, 0.88, 1.0) for square-root encoded (r,g,b ). Stretching to red=1.0, this would correspond to (1.0, 1.19, 1.35) for square-root encoded (r,g,b ), or to about (1.0, 1.41, 1.83) for linearized (r,g,b ).

The CCD should behave close to linear with exposure time, according to subsection 4.1 of the JunoCam paper:
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Linearity and full well were measured using integrating sphere images taken with a series of exposure times. This shows excellent linearity (r = 0.99) until the full well is reached at about 1872 DN (30,500 electrons), illustrated in Fig. 18.
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post Aug 9 2016, 05:47 PM
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Nice to see your updated large Earth view. It is true the cloud colors can vary, especially with lower sun elevation angles and when viewing near the limb. For example it's OK for the clouds right at the terminator to be a bit on the red side. The bright high clouds would be the best reference. For these there are still some effects with atmospheric scattering and absorption, though intensities of various colors should shift by only a few percent.

What is most noticeable to me though is that the ocean areas (including the sun glint) surrounding Chile/Argentina appear to have a greenish cast. I think when color does appear in this situation it would be more orangeish. At the risk of going outside the bounds of this forum, there are lots of videos available showing Earth from various geometries illustrating this that reasonably match the geometry we're seeing with Juno.

Just for fun I made a subjective adjustment to your image that hopefully changes it in the right direction (lowering green by 14% in the GIMP in "shadowed" areas):

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Looking more online, I can also see data about the moon being reddish, more so in the brighter highlands.

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Ah, yes, this could resolve the discrepancy. I've seen material from Earth's moon from less than a meter distance, and it looked perfectly grey. But it likely wasn't directly from the surface. If Moon's surface reddens from space weathering, then it should look reddish, consistent with the appearence of Moon in EFB01, after I've been following your advice to use Earth's clouds as white calibration targets. (One of the (large!) resulting processed EFB12 files here.) However, the color of the clouds aren't quite uniform, so this a compromise.
Since then I've applied the weights (0.74, 0.88, 1.0) for square-root encoded (r,g,b ). Stretching to red=1.0, this would correspond to (1.0, 1.19, 1.35) for square-root encoded (r,g,b ), or to about (1.0, 1.41, 1.83) for linearized (r,g,b ).


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- nprev   Juno at Jupiter   Jul 5 2016, 07:53 PM
- - Gerald   Added the drafts for parts 3 and 4 to the same url...   Jul 21 2016, 04:04 PM
- - Don1   @Gerald....In the pictures that you posted in Post...   Jul 22 2016, 08:45 AM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (Don1 @ Jul 22 2016, 10:45 AM) @Ger...   Jul 22 2016, 10:29 AM
- - Don1   One more low sun angle picture from ISS. Jupiter h...   Jul 22 2016, 09:50 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Don1 @ Jul 22 2016, 01:50 AM) I th...   Jul 22 2016, 02:32 PM
- - Gerald   Draft processing of raw images of Jupiter approach...   Jul 22 2016, 12:56 PM
- - Gerald   Although comprising only parts 1 and 5 of the appr...   Jul 24 2016, 12:47 AM
- - Gerald   ... while rendering part 4 of the approach movie ....   Jul 24 2016, 01:30 PM
- - Gerald   Rendition of Jupiter approach movies completed. E...   Jul 24 2016, 05:26 PM
|- - Brian Burns   QUOTE (Gerald @ Jul 24 2016, 12:26 PM) Re...   Jul 25 2016, 07:19 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Brilliant - well done! Phil   Jul 24 2016, 11:13 PM
- - Gerald   Thanks, Phil! It has been an easy exercise com...   Jul 25 2016, 03:43 PM
- - Floyd   Gerald, Very nice work. Question, where does the...   Jul 25 2016, 08:08 PM
- - Gerald   @Brian Burns: Thanks! I hope so, too. I'm ...   Jul 25 2016, 08:39 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Gerald @ Jul 25 2016, 12:39 PM) I...   Jul 25 2016, 09:25 PM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jul 25 2016, 11:25 PM...   Jul 31 2016, 12:39 AM
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- - craigmcg   moderators - might be good to have a separate thre...   Jul 27 2016, 06:11 PM
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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 29 2016, 07:29 A...   Jul 29 2016, 05:00 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jul 29 2016, 09:00 AM...   Aug 9 2016, 05:43 PM
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- - scalbers   I think the bright Earth clouds would be a better ...   Aug 2 2016, 10:44 PM
- - Gerald   Ah, yes, this could resolve the discrepancy. I...   Aug 3 2016, 12:54 AM
|- - scalbers   Nice to see your updated large Earth view. It is t...   Aug 9 2016, 05:47 PM
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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Gerald @ Aug 9 2016, 11:35 AM) for...   Aug 9 2016, 08:36 PM
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- - ZLD   My take on the new image.   Aug 28 2016, 02:26 AM
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