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Adaptive Optics, Tracking the SOTA for ground-based observation
JRehling
post Nov 16 2016, 06:23 PM
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Here, as mentioned in the Neptune thread, is a link to an article about the PALM-3000 system working with the 5m Hale Telescope. The attached photo of Ganymede is one of the best ground-based images I've ever seen, and easily blows away HST resolution.

http://inspirehep.net/record/1252803/plots


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post Nov 17 2016, 05:56 PM
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Thanks for posting. That is crazy impressive resolution smile.gif

What ever happened to the promise of optical interferometry, with multiple telescopes separated by large distances to emulate the performance of a larger scope? We had Keck II, which did some impressive work, but that was more of a pilot project for the larger plans.
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QUOTE (algorimancer @ Nov 17 2016, 10:56 AM) *
What ever happened to the promise of optical interferometry, with multiple telescopes separated by large distances to emulate the performance of a larger scope? We had Keck II, which did some impressive work, but that was more of a pilot project for the larger plans.


Definitely the preeminent telescope of the future is the E-ELT, which will have a 39-meter composite mirror. You could think of that as multiple telescopes separated by a distance, but with extra telescopes filling in all the space between them! If that can deliver an 8x improvement on the resolution in the Ganymede photo that I posted, as it should, it'll as big of an advance over existing telescopes than the HST was over what came before it.

I'm not sure why the architecture that you mention has not been advanced, but there was a great article in SiAm last year…

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/...from-yesterday/

…about the very acrimonious and political battle to develop the world's next biggest telescopes that was a bitter fight over resources and ended up not with one big winner, nor two, but three roughly equal rivals. As the article mentions, a unified community would probably have given the world a single massive telescope many years earlier. That's the downside. The upside is that we'll probably have two of them a decade from now, and that doubles the number of observations. (The third, TMT, is in limbo due to even different political reasons, but we may have three massive telescopes 15 or 20 years from now???)

Given the intense struggle and animosity, it's likely that many worthwhile projects have been stalled by the fierce competition for resources.

The world's biggest radio telescope has also been built, in China. There's no doubt we're on the cusp of a new golden age of telescopes, and many breakthroughs are inevitably to follow.

Personally, I'm most excited about the visual observation of exoplanets within 50-100 light years, but it's also sure to mean breakthrough observations of objects as close as the asteroid belt and as far as the cosmological scale.
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- JRehling   Adaptive Optics   Nov 16 2016, 06:23 PM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   Wow!!!! Somehow the fact that gro...   Nov 16 2016, 08:35 PM
|- - JRehling   It certainly is impressive. Not quite Voyager leve...   Nov 17 2016, 03:01 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Wow indeed. Amazing. OK, now I want to see... th...   Nov 17 2016, 02:14 AM
- - Decepticon   The features don't seem to line up?   Nov 17 2016, 07:57 AM
- - AndyG   Rotate Phil's 90° clockwise. Andy   Nov 17 2016, 08:25 AM
- - Phil Stooke   "Rotate Phil's 90° clockwise." No, ...   Nov 17 2016, 03:18 PM
|- - AndyG   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Nov 17 2016, 03:18 P...   Nov 19 2016, 12:32 AM
|- - JRehling   In astronomy, old fashioned puts south at the top....   Nov 20 2016, 08:46 PM
- - algorimancer   Thanks for posting. That is crazy impressive reso...   Nov 17 2016, 05:56 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Nov 17 2016, 10:56 ...   Nov 17 2016, 06:42 PM
|- - algorimancer   I see that there is the ESO's VLTI, which is a...   Nov 17 2016, 07:54 PM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Nov 17 2016, 09:54 ...   Nov 18 2016, 08:55 PM
|- - algorimancer   QUOTE (Gerald @ Nov 18 2016, 02:55 PM) .....   Nov 18 2016, 10:10 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I don't know a lot about this, but my impressi...   Nov 17 2016, 08:15 PM
- - Decepticon   RE: Adaptive Optics   Nov 17 2016, 08:19 PM
- - algorimancer   It's interesting to compare this adaptive opti...   Nov 18 2016, 03:21 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I guess I asked for that... Phil PS get off my l...   Nov 20 2016, 07:30 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Totally off topic, but look what happens when you ...   Nov 21 2016, 03:25 PM


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