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post Jan 6 2006, 08:55 PM
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WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 6 Jan 06 Washington, DC
DEEP SPACE CLIMATE OBSERVATORY KILLED.
http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/index.html


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"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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Stratespace
post Dec 9 2016, 10:49 PM
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I begin to be a bit desperate about the DSCOVR images.
I've first worked with the PNG images provided by their server, associated with their metadata. After days of work, I still couldn't understand what I was seeing: when projected on a map with Spice kernels, the data did not seem very well registrated, and there were slight shifts changing depending on the local view angle. I contacted NASA that nicely replied that the PNG images were not scientifically accurate in terms of localization, and that I should work with the L1B calibrated data instead.
To make it short, those L1B data are calibrated and include all bands registred in a common reference frame. In other terms, for each image you have the gray level for each band, as well as the local latitude/longitude corresponding to each pixel, or map of coordinates if you prefer.
But after hours of play with those data, it appears the problem is even worse than before: those L1B data are even wrong-er and it's impossible as it to project properly the images on a map.
As a short demonstration, I projected a "true" coastline map onto the images according to their lat/long maps. Here is the result:


After a bit of investigation, I finally understood where the problem is in those raw calibrated data. Unfortunately, the maps associated to the images have been generated very roughly, the DSCOVR EPIC team have considered all "non-null" pixels as "the Earth", and the darkness of space as "not Earth". As a result, the atmosphere of the Earth is considered as being the ground, and ten pixels outside the Earth the maps still indicate different latitudes and longitudes !
You can see this fact on the following images, where I show a portion of Earth's limb and the same portion with the size of the Earth uncorrectly given by the metadata overimposed on it:

As a consequence, when you project your coastline map on the images for debug, you see the coast floating up into the upper atmosphere:


I think we can all agree it is clearly off-target...

I've already tried different techniques to correct for this issue, such as detecting the "true" size of the Earth in the images and to shrink all the lat/long maps accordingly, but this is very hard in practice, as you need to make the difference between lit portions of the limb that are clearly visible and barely visible portions of the limb that are already into the night. Remember that DSCOVR is orbiting around L1 and not on L1, thus shadows are visible.
I've implemented alternative techniques as well, such as clouds removal and recognition of different patterns on the Earth to morph the metadata they provide to a more correct geometry, but it is very hard to make it 100% automated with high confidence without spending weeks and weeks of effort.
As a last chance, I've tried working with the L1A data (uncalibrated), but it fails for the same reason.

My conclusion so far is: I'm done with those data, they lack of reliable metadata to work with them at pixelic resolution with an automated process, to make animated maps for example. It's okay to make movies on the original images themselves (no transformation needed), it's okay to transform one of those images, but it's pointless working on them for a smooth transformed animation. At least without days and days of work. The optical flows and other filtering techniques I've implemented to guess automatically what should be the correct lat/long grid for each image are quiet complex, but still insufficient to do the job. That's a shame, the outcome would have been awsome...
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- ljk4-1   DSCOVR   Jan 6 2006, 08:55 PM
- - scalbers   Yes this makes sense - thanks for clarifying. Quit...   Mar 5 2016, 03:00 PM
- - Explorer1   The solar eclipse sequence is up on the main site ...   Mar 11 2016, 11:12 PM
- - scalbers   I'm continuing to think about the most realist...   Mar 23 2016, 08:25 PM
- - scalbers   Here is an updated version of a synthesized Earth ...   Mar 26 2016, 03:01 PM
- - Explorer1   Wow, that really does look much more like the Apol...   Mar 26 2016, 05:55 PM
- - scalbers   Thanks Explorer1. One thing with the synthetic ima...   Mar 26 2016, 09:27 PM
- - scalbers   More details on these synthesized Earth images can...   Apr 30 2016, 06:46 PM
- - Explorer1   Space weather instruments are done commissioning, ...   Jun 28 2016, 08:32 PM
- - scalbers   I like the URL and where they are going with the i...   Jul 8 2016, 04:40 PM
- - Explorer1   One year highlight video is as good as I hoped: ht...   Jul 20 2016, 05:03 PM
- - scalbers   Here is the Blueturn version with a somewhat smoot...   Jul 29 2016, 05:13 PM
- - Michael Boccara   Thanks Steve for pointing at my videos. A word ab...   Sep 13 2016, 07:20 AM
- - scalbers   Thought I'd mention that I'm attempting to...   Oct 13 2016, 06:10 PM
|- - Michael Boccara   QUOTE (scalbers @ Oct 13 2016, 08:10 PM) ...   Oct 31 2016, 04:36 PM
- - Explorer1   Any idea what the bright yellow spot in this image...   Oct 13 2016, 06:49 PM
|- - john_s   Looks to be in about the right place on the disk t...   Oct 13 2016, 09:06 PM
- - ngunn   There is a place called Lagunas on the Amazon trib...   Oct 13 2016, 10:08 PM
- - scalbers   Here's an advance simulated animation (click o...   Oct 22 2016, 05:20 PM
- - fredk   Nice, Steve. You mentioned before the interesting...   Oct 29 2016, 02:28 PM
- - scalbers   Thanks fredk. The funny thing is that once I inadv...   Oct 30 2016, 03:17 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (scalbers @ Oct 30 2016, 04:17 PM) ...   Oct 31 2016, 05:02 PM
|- - JRehling   The question of what Earth would look like without...   Nov 1 2016, 05:20 PM
- - scalbers   Indeed it's interesting to imagine the aspects...   Oct 31 2016, 11:35 PM
- - fredk   The symmetry of the Rayleigh phase function tells ...   Nov 1 2016, 03:29 PM
- - Stratespace   I begin to be a bit desperate about the DSCOVR ima...   Dec 9 2016, 10:49 PM
- - scalbers   Indeed it's tricky to get accurate mapping. He...   Dec 10 2016, 06:13 PM
- - Phil Stooke   How about... don't use the limb detection rout...   Dec 10 2016, 08:14 PM
|- - Stratespace   The limb detection is largely impacted by the unce...   Dec 10 2016, 09:21 PM
|- - JRehling   If I were to try to build a robust solution to thi...   Jan 24 2017, 06:11 PM
- - scalbers   Maybe the scientists are doing something like this...   Dec 10 2016, 10:00 PM
- - Stratespace   You are right, thank you very much for the link ...   Dec 10 2016, 10:25 PM
- - Floyd   Here is a maybe crazy, maybe not so crazy idea. C...   Dec 11 2016, 02:32 PM
|- - Stratespace   QUOTE (Floyd @ Dec 11 2016, 03:32 PM) Her...   Dec 11 2016, 04:24 PM
- - scalbers   It seems in the reference I linked that the image ...   Dec 11 2016, 06:08 PM
- - Explorer1   Big changes to the public website interface, plus ...   Dec 21 2016, 07:58 PM
- - Michael Boccara   Following the previous discussion with Stratespace...   Jan 24 2017, 09:45 AM
- - scalbers   Interesting to consider this procedure. I wonder h...   Jan 24 2017, 07:53 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (scalbers @ Jan 24 2017, 12:53 PM) ...   Jan 25 2017, 05:30 PM
- - scalbers   Using my simulated imagery (link 2 posts above) as...   Jan 25 2017, 06:20 PM
- - Michael Boccara   Hi Sharing some nice results I had with interpola...   Mar 7 2017, 03:13 PM
|- - Stratespace   QUOTE (Michael Boccara @ Mar 7 2017, 04:1...   Mar 13 2017, 07:43 PM
|- - Michael Boccara   QUOTE (Stratespace @ Mar 13 2017, 09:43 P...   Mar 22 2017, 05:41 AM
- - scalbers   Looks really nice to see the smooth changes in the...   Mar 9 2017, 12:25 AM
|- - Michael Boccara   Thanks Steve. This is indeed a nice global view o...   Mar 9 2017, 06:44 AM
- - scalbers   For the contrast I was thinking of reducing it, by...   Mar 9 2017, 07:51 PM
- - Michael Boccara   Hi This is my version of the eclipse of last week...   Aug 29 2017, 07:08 AM
- - monty python   Thank you. This is the kind of video my friends wi...   Aug 30 2017, 07:50 AM
- - Michael Boccara   Hi, I released a new version of my app Blueturn. ...   Sep 13 2017, 08:26 AM
- - scalbers   Nice to see this more flexible version of the app ...   Sep 13 2017, 06:29 PM
|- - Michael Boccara   QUOTE (scalbers @ Sep 13 2017, 07:29 PM) ...   Sep 14 2017, 05:46 AM
- - scalbers   Here is our "DSCOVR Transcendance" poste...   Jan 3 2018, 09:49 PM
- - scalbers   I've recently made some fixes to the handling ...   Mar 1 2018, 12:20 AM
- - scalbers   Also for comparison, here is an image constructed ...   Mar 3 2018, 06:09 PM
- - scalbers   With some further adjustments I get this compariso...   Jul 20 2018, 07:23 PM
- - scalbers   With this refinement to increase the reflected lig...   Jul 21 2018, 04:40 PM
- - scalbers   To help with rendering the Earth, a guideline I...   Sep 3 2018, 01:14 PM
- - scalbers   DSCOVR has been in safe mode since June 27th: http...   Aug 12 2019, 10:14 PM
- - scalbers   A fix is being worked on: https://spacenews.com/so...   Oct 3 2019, 09:46 PM
- - scalbers   DSCOVR has been back in operation now, already for...   Apr 1 2020, 10:07 PM
|- - bkellysky   QUOTE (scalbers @ Apr 1 2020, 06:07 PM) D...   Apr 4 2020, 11:27 AM
- - scalbers   Sounds good bkellysky! I'm attaching a rel...   Apr 23 2020, 10:02 PM
- - threadworm   DSCOVR also caught the start of the eruption: htt...   Jan 21 2022, 04:59 PM
- - Michael Boccara   This is October, 25th, 2022, and the time is 11:19...   Oct 29 2022, 01:44 PM
- - bkellysky   DSCOVR image including the darkness over western N...   Oct 27 2023, 03:19 PM
|- - john_s   Nice image, but something must be off with the col...   Oct 27 2023, 03:28 PM
|- - bkellysky   QUOTE (john_s @ Oct 27 2023, 11:28 AM) Ni...   Oct 27 2023, 04:31 PM
- - fredk   That image is the "enhanced" version. T...   Oct 27 2023, 07:11 PM
- - scalbers   Nice analysis by fredk. The DSCOVR Team reportedly...   Oct 28 2023, 02:01 AM
|- - StargazeInWonder   All very interesting. For what it's worth, thi...   Oct 28 2023, 03:10 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (scalbers @ Oct 28 2023, 03:01 AM) ...   Oct 29 2023, 05:59 PM
- - scalbers   Nice to see there's a good presentation in the...   Oct 29 2023, 07:22 PM
- - fredk   There are some details on the production of colour...   Oct 29 2023, 09:52 PM
- - scalbers   Interesting to see this document that seems to be ...   Oct 29 2023, 10:05 PM
- - scalbers   Animated comparison of simulated Earth (left) and ...   Nov 4 2023, 09:16 PM
- - fredk   Nice simulation. No obvious reddening in the penu...   Nov 6 2023, 07:02 PM
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