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They finally found a chunk of something coming into the Solar System. Something much bigger than cosmic rays or dust particles.

Asteroid/comet in hyperbolic trajectory
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The Goldstone radar never really had a chance with this one. 'Oumaumau was probably too small to even be detected at its closest approach. Certainly too small to get anything other than just a basic signal return that would barely pop out of background noise. Arecibo theoretically could have seen it around October 20 when it moved into the extreme southern end of what that telescope could observe, but it would have been a very short window and not much of a signal either, as it was rapidly moving away at that point. In any event, the orbit of 'Oumaumau at that point was too uncertain, and the notice was too short.
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- Holder of the Two Leashes   Interstellar Interlopers   Oct 27 2017, 01:40 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I'm afraid that's not quite how it works. ...   Oct 31 2017, 07:25 PM
- - fredk   The sun also doesn't help. The slingshot mech...   Oct 31 2017, 07:45 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (fredk @ Oct 31 2017, 08:45 PM) The...   Oct 31 2017, 08:26 PM
- - fredk   For the sun, the outgoing speed will clearly be th...   Oct 31 2017, 09:58 PM
- - Paolo   and a second arXiv paper: Kinematics of the Inters...   Nov 1 2017, 07:05 AM
- - nprev   Going back to the object itself, interesting that ...   Nov 1 2017, 11:39 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 1 2017, 05:39 PM) Goin...   Nov 2 2017, 12:20 AM
- - Gerald   You'll probably need an environment, where lig...   Nov 2 2017, 02:10 AM
- - Gladstoner   Are there asteroids in the inner solar system with...   Nov 2 2017, 04:12 AM
- - Gerald   A coating of a few microns of a pigment like tholi...   Nov 2 2017, 10:37 AM
|- - JRehling   A/2017 U1 had no observed coma, so it had little i...   Nov 2 2017, 03:18 PM
||- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (JRehling @ Nov 2 2017, 04:18 PM) A...   Dec 19 2017, 02:20 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Gerald @ Nov 2 2017, 02:37 AM) Ama...   Nov 3 2017, 08:14 AM
- - fredk   Makes me wonder about capture: some extremely smal...   Nov 2 2017, 04:48 PM
- - Gladstoner   It has been hypothesized that comet 96P/Machholz c...   Nov 2 2017, 05:04 PM
- - Gerald   I wouldn't call the ejection of a small Jovian...   Nov 3 2017, 11:48 AM
- - Paolo   I suspect that the xenoasteroid's redness has ...   Nov 3 2017, 03:24 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Paolo @ Nov 3 2017, 03:24 PM) I su...   Nov 3 2017, 10:48 PM
- - nprev   Pity we'll never get a high-res image of it. I...   Nov 3 2017, 07:56 PM
- - Gerald   I wonder, how this observation of an extrasolar as...   Nov 3 2017, 11:28 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Gerald @ Nov 4 2017, 12:28 AM) So,...   Nov 4 2017, 11:21 PM
- - Paolo   IIRC interstellar grains are mostly supposed to fo...   Nov 4 2017, 06:32 AM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (Paolo @ Nov 4 2017, 07:32 AM) I re...   Nov 25 2017, 04:22 PM
- - Gerald   The paper I mentioned above says at the end of pag...   Nov 4 2017, 08:50 AM
|- - JRehling   In our solar system, small (asteroid) and very sma...   Nov 7 2017, 04:43 PM
- - Paolo   a new naming convention for interstellar objects: ...   Nov 7 2017, 09:09 AM
- - stevesliva   You omitted the 1, which when you get down to thin...   Nov 7 2017, 02:19 PM
- - Paolo   a good update on what's known about 'Oumua...   Nov 12 2017, 07:39 AM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Paolo @ Nov 12 2017, 07:39 AM) a g...   Nov 12 2017, 01:33 PM
- - djellison   The spacecraft would not have survived the trip. ...   Nov 12 2017, 03:31 PM
- - hendric   With all the hot Jupiters we've discovered, I ...   Nov 13 2017, 04:36 PM
|- - JRehling   Hot Jupiters are relatively rare. We discovered so...   Nov 14 2017, 04:31 PM
- - Hungry4info   With as deep in their star's gravitational wel...   Nov 13 2017, 04:55 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Nov 13 2017, 05:55 P...   Nov 13 2017, 06:40 PM
- - hendric   Well, my assumption was that the source solar syst...   Nov 13 2017, 07:59 PM
- - fredk   Here's a twist - a paper looking at the possib...   Nov 17 2017, 03:37 PM
- - nprev   Well...at least it's a testable hypothesis if ...   Nov 18 2017, 07:09 AM
- - dudley   Examination of the light curve of Oumuamua as it r...   Nov 18 2017, 04:10 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (dudley @ Nov 18 2017, 05:10 PM) Ex...   Nov 18 2017, 04:21 PM
|- - Explorer1   QUOTE (dudley @ Nov 18 2017, 11:10 AM) Ex...   Nov 18 2017, 05:18 PM
|- - dudley   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Nov 18 2017, 05:18 PM)...   Nov 18 2017, 06:14 PM
- - fredk   It's not entirely clear what Occam would say a...   Nov 18 2017, 05:34 PM
- - Ron Hobbs   ESO has a press release out today with an artist...   Nov 20 2017, 06:00 PM
- - Gerald   Possibly a collision fragment. But figures of equi...   Nov 20 2017, 09:34 PM
- - dudley   The differences in reflectivity, through the cours...   Nov 20 2017, 11:11 PM
- - fredk   It's worth pointing out that the lightcurve br...   Nov 21 2017, 01:06 AM
- - dudley   The linked article is a few days old, so has the o...   Nov 21 2017, 02:31 AM
- - fredk   You can read in the original Nature paper linked i...   Nov 21 2017, 05:26 AM
- - Floyd   There must be Psyche-like bodies in other systems....   Nov 21 2017, 01:36 PM
- - Explorer1   Have we confirmed (from any 'precovery images...   Nov 22 2017, 12:17 AM
- - dudley   The trend in thinking about this object now, is th...   Nov 22 2017, 03:22 AM
- - TheAnt   So we have to accept that 1I/2017 U1 truly have on...   Nov 22 2017, 03:20 PM
|- - dudley   QUOTE (TheAnt @ Nov 22 2017, 04:20 PM) So...   Nov 22 2017, 08:15 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (dudley @ Nov 22 2017, 09:15 PM) A ...   Nov 23 2017, 11:20 PM
- - Ron Hobbs   The artwork from M. Kornmesser at ESO is the APOD ...   Nov 22 2017, 05:16 PM
- - Gladstoner   Objects in our solar system have been subjected to...   Nov 23 2017, 12:03 AM
- - dudley   Perhaps Oumuamua was ejected from its home system ...   Nov 23 2017, 02:16 AM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (dudley @ Nov 22 2017, 08:16 PM) Sh...   Nov 23 2017, 06:36 AM
- - Gerald   As far as I understood, any detectable cometary ac...   Nov 23 2017, 03:04 PM
- - nprev   ADMIN NOTE: Two posts in violation of rule 1.3 rem...   Nov 23 2017, 04:38 PM
- - dudley   The length of Oumuamua was first given as 180, and...   Nov 24 2017, 06:40 PM
- - nprev   I haven't seen error bars for any of these mea...   Nov 24 2017, 07:21 PM
- - fredk   Adding to nprev's comments, the lightcurve onl...   Nov 24 2017, 09:09 PM
|- - JRehling   In real estate, the three most important things ar...   Nov 25 2017, 07:08 AM
- - Floyd   Excellent point on multiple rounds of exceptional ...   Nov 25 2017, 02:09 PM
- - Gerald   This seems to be within the possible scenarios on ...   Dec 19 2017, 09:56 AM
|- - JRehling   It seems like the number of possible hypotheses is...   Dec 20 2017, 04:25 AM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 20 2017, 05:25 AM) ...   Dec 20 2017, 06:09 AM
||- - JRehling   Great point, Gerald, and certainly correct. The on...   Dec 20 2017, 04:15 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 20 2017, 04:25 AM) ...   Dec 20 2017, 05:19 PM
|- - JRehling   The velocity of 'Oumuamua is far beyond the es...   Dec 20 2017, 10:08 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 20 2017, 11:08 PM) ...   Dec 21 2017, 01:12 AM
|- - JRehling   Per Gerald's point above, we don't know th...   Dec 21 2017, 06:02 AM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 21 2017, 07:02 AM) ...   Dec 21 2017, 02:00 PM
- - nprev   We've got evidence that many systems have plan...   Dec 20 2017, 05:41 AM
- - fredk   Just noticed this preprint from a few weeks ago th...   Dec 20 2017, 03:52 PM
- - nprev   We can't really infer anything about the spect...   Dec 21 2017, 02:52 AM
- - Gerald   The time for interstellar dust to be captured has ...   Dec 21 2017, 04:38 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (Gerald @ Dec 21 2017, 05:38 PM) Ev...   Dec 21 2017, 05:47 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (fredk @ Dec 21 2017, 05:47 PM) QUO...   Dec 30 2017, 03:44 PM
- - Gerald   When you get a delta-v by a freefall component tow...   Dec 21 2017, 06:17 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Gerald @ Dec 21 2017, 07:17 PM) Wh...   Dec 21 2017, 08:44 PM
- - Gerald   By conservation of energy, an Oort object has almo...   Dec 21 2017, 09:22 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Gerald @ Dec 21 2017, 09:22 PM) By...   Dec 21 2017, 11:01 PM
- - Gerald   I don't think, that a large fraction of the Oo...   Dec 22 2017, 12:10 AM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Gerald @ Dec 22 2017, 12:10 AM) I ...   Dec 22 2017, 04:02 PM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (HSchirmer @ Dec 22 2017, 05:02 PM)...   Dec 23 2017, 02:32 AM
- - Explorer1   I suppose the best way to get answers is find one ...   Dec 22 2017, 11:07 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Dec 22 2017, 11:07 PM)...   Dec 26 2017, 03:43 PM
- - alan   Years ago someone here estimated that the distance...   Dec 27 2017, 10:22 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (alan @ Dec 27 2017, 10:22 PM) Year...   Dec 29 2017, 08:47 PM
- - nprev   ADMIN MODE: Discussion is drifting off-topic prett...   Dec 30 2017, 10:07 AM
- - Gerald   The interplanetary magnetic field is on the order ...   Jan 1 2018, 09:48 PM
- - Holder of the Two Leashes   Been planning for a while to get these MPECs in, f...   Jan 20 2018, 09:48 PM
- - JohnVV   with many projects going on , i was able to do som...   Jan 22 2018, 12:50 AM
- - Paolo   there was a good summary of what we have learned f...   Jan 22 2018, 06:10 PM
- - dtolman   Radar Observation would have answered a lot of que...   Feb 6 2018, 04:46 PM
- - Holder of the Two Leashes   The Goldstone radar never really had a chance with...   Feb 6 2018, 06:16 PM
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