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post Mar 28 2018, 04:10 AM
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So, according to the voting page, apparently the spacecraft's being spun around to get the instruments pointed directly at the planet. Io and Ganymede will also be imaged during this pass, as they'll come into view of JunoCam two hours before and twelve hours after closest approach, respectively. For Io, the team are "planning to take two pictures - one exposed nominally and one that over-exposes Io to look for volcanic plumes extending above the surface." The Great Red Spot is also expected to come into view during the spacecraft's departure.

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Here's a logo for Perijove 12 I threw together, by the way. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 2 2018, 02:23 PM
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Now I see - that is extremely simple. Thanks, Gerald, for the description. So indeed the crucial assumption is of a steady flow, ie constant flow velocity at each point. Indeed looking at more that two frames would help, in at least two ways. First, by giving you a sense of the time dependence of the flow field f(x,y). This could be fitted to simple polynomials or splines to approximate the time dependence (though substantial extrapolation is still risky). But more crucially making several estimates of the flow field would also mean beating down the noise, which has to be large when you only use two frames.

Are there triple or more frame sets that you could use in practice?

My comment about the div wasn't to say you should make that assumption. I think it would simply be interesting to impose div f = 0 and see what difference it makes. A large difference would mean that this is an important consideration and should be investigated further. So it would simply be a test.
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post Jun 2 2018, 05:52 PM
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Yes, thanks! That's indeed the same kind of visualization for the flow lines of Earth's wind field.

QUOTE (fredk @ Jun 2 2018, 04:23 PM) *
Are there triple or more frame sets that you could use in practice?

I guess, that this might be possible closer to the poles. There, we have time series of several images. and may be up to a handfull within a respective series that might be of a sufficient quality to determine velocity fields. During PJ13, for the first time, JunoCam has taken a sequence of TDI 3 images of the south polar region. I think, that those images will be the best basis, thus far, for an attempt to find areas of unsteady flow.

Regarding div, laplace, etc, I've run statistical tests, too, whether the retrieved values are significant, i.e., above noise induced by the choice of Monte Carlo samples used for stereo correspondence. In this repect, all these derived entities appear to deviate significantly from zero, for at least some areas. But there are still statistical errors induced by the structure of the data to be ruled out.

There are various issues to beat down. The first limits I tried to test have been Jupiter's latitude, respectively the time from closest approach. It's the harder to get useful image pairs the closer we get to a perijove. That's due to the very rapid change of perspective. Currently, my limit to get useful results is somewhere near 5 minutes between two images taken from very different perspectives. For the equatorial zone, or later, for the perijove anticipated to migrate towards north, I should push the limits to below two minutes. This requires a very accurate global camera calibration and pointing. Therefore, my primary goal for the next three months is developing families of camera models more suitable for JunoCam calibration than the straightforward Brownian approach.
At the same time, I'll run tests with the south polar PJ13 sequence, in order to be able to provide feedback for planning future flybys (assuming them to take place, and with healthy instruments). One of the tests will include the feasibility of an inference of a displacement field between velocity fields, or at least comparisons between velocity fields derived from image pairs within a sequence of south polar images.
We'll then see, whether or which of those higher-order properties of the velocity field can be determined above noise level.
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- PhilipTerryGraham   Juno, perijove 12   Mar 28 2018, 04:10 AM
- - mcaplinger   First batch of PJ12 images are available on missio...   Apr 3 2018, 12:35 AM
- - Sean   PJ12_85 Happy Easter indeed.   Apr 3 2018, 06:12 AM
- - Gerald   After a long night of PJ12 image processing, the s...   Apr 3 2018, 06:18 AM
- - Gerald   #085:   Apr 3 2018, 06:19 AM
- - Gerald   #084:   Apr 3 2018, 06:21 AM
- - Gerald   #082, and #081:   Apr 3 2018, 06:23 AM
- - Gerald   #080, #079, and #077:   Apr 3 2018, 06:27 AM
- - Gerald   #076, #075, #074, #073, #072, and #71: ...   Apr 3 2018, 06:35 AM
- - Gerald   Link to PNG version. The early approach images are...   Apr 3 2018, 07:18 AM
- - Sean   PJ12_85 [G.Eichstadt] Details... ( processed/...   Apr 3 2018, 10:40 AM
- - Sean   Thanks to Gerald's efforts, here are some PJ12...   Apr 3 2018, 08:29 PM
- - PhilipTerryGraham   Quick question, what was the distance between the ...   Apr 4 2018, 05:39 AM
|- - Brian Swift   QUOTE (PhilipTerryGraham @ Apr 3 2018, 10...   Apr 4 2018, 07:02 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Apr 3 2018, 11:02 PM...   Apr 4 2018, 03:03 PM
- - Sean   I wondered what size 'Anticyclonic White Oval ...   Apr 4 2018, 05:00 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Sean @ Apr 4 2018, 09:00 AM) I won...   Apr 4 2018, 05:45 PM
- - Gerald   Btw, here the links to the reprojections Seán used...   Apr 4 2018, 05:34 PM
- - mcaplinger   The second set of PJ12 images, including the GRS i...   Apr 4 2018, 10:04 PM
- - Gerald   Enhanced reprojections of PJ12, part 2, PNG versio...   Apr 5 2018, 12:27 AM
- - Gerald   #100:   Apr 5 2018, 12:28 AM
- - Gerald   #99:   Apr 5 2018, 12:29 AM
- - Gerald   #94: (#95 to #98 are methane band images)   Apr 5 2018, 12:30 AM
- - Gerald   #93: #92:   Apr 5 2018, 12:32 AM
- - Gerald   #91:   Apr 5 2018, 12:34 AM
- - Gerald   #90:   Apr 5 2018, 12:35 AM
- - Gerald   #89, and #88:   Apr 5 2018, 12:37 AM
- - Gerald   and #87: Interesting, the small reddish eddies i...   Apr 5 2018, 12:41 AM
- - Sean   PJ12_99 ...made with Brian Swift's Mathema...   Apr 5 2018, 01:05 AM
- - Gerald   Here, for completeness, are my Perijove-12 drafts,...   Apr 5 2018, 02:15 AM
- - Sean   PJ12_100 PJ12_99 Details   Apr 5 2018, 11:06 AM
|- - JRehling   The Great Red Spot has some strikingly – and not t...   Apr 5 2018, 04:11 PM
|- - scalbers   QUOTE (JRehling @ Apr 5 2018, 04:11 PM) ....   Apr 6 2018, 04:47 PM
- - Gerald   PJ-12 images reprojected to the image stop time of...   Apr 5 2018, 01:15 PM
- - Sean   Impressive work Gerald... I decided to make a port...   Apr 5 2018, 03:41 PM
- - Gerald   First, I'm astonished, how fast Seán was able ...   Apr 5 2018, 04:32 PM
- - Sean   PJ12_94_Detail [G.Eichstadt] PJ12_90_Details   Apr 6 2018, 02:08 AM
- - Sean   PJ12_92 [Eichstadt/Doran]   Apr 6 2018, 05:22 PM
- - Sean   Various details from PJ12 [Eichstadt/Doran] 81 ...   Apr 6 2018, 06:17 PM
- - jccwrt   Some processed images from PJ12 Some really fasci...   Apr 9 2018, 02:15 AM
- - Sean   PJ12_GRS_reprojected [Eichstadt/Doran] 5 frames b...   Apr 11 2018, 12:39 AM
- - Gerald   Those are fantastic results, Seán! This PJ12 f...   Apr 11 2018, 01:36 AM
|- - monty python   QUOTE (Gerald @ Apr 10 2018, 08:36 PM) Th...   Apr 16 2018, 05:07 AM
- - Gerald   Outbound reprojections, RGB, #099 to #128.   Apr 12 2018, 06:53 PM
- - Gerald   PJ12 HD flyby, MP4, and JPG stills (2.2 GB) . I...   Apr 17 2018, 08:35 AM
|- - avisolo   QUOTE (Gerald @ Apr 17 2018, 09:35 AM) PJ...   Apr 17 2018, 09:04 AM
- - Sean   Here is my initial pass on Gerald's excellent ...   Apr 17 2018, 05:47 PM
- - Brian Swift   Perijove 12 in 6 seconds video on youtube processe...   Apr 17 2018, 06:11 PM
- - Sean   For fun I decided to convert a portion of Gerald...   Apr 18 2018, 04:18 PM
- - Gerald   These are the times of the scenes: Each scene is ...   Apr 18 2018, 04:46 PM
- - Sean   Does this tally with my understanding of the timin...   Apr 18 2018, 04:55 PM
- - Gerald   The whole movie would take 2:30:05.000 in real-tim...   Apr 18 2018, 05:02 PM
- - Sean   Thanks for that Gerald, a 2 hour movie would be as...   Apr 18 2018, 05:26 PM
|- - Johann Guillon   QUOTE (Sean @ Apr 18 2018, 05:26 PM) Than...   Apr 18 2018, 05:35 PM
- - Sean   Thanks Johann, I use After Effects with Pixel War...   Apr 18 2018, 06:18 PM
|- - Johann Guillon   QUOTE (Sean @ Apr 18 2018, 06:18 PM) Than...   Apr 18 2018, 08:44 PM
- - Sean   Thanks Johann. My PC is fairly mid-range, except w...   Apr 18 2018, 08:55 PM
- - Sean   Perijove 12 Real Time A 2 hour sequence from Gera...   Apr 21 2018, 08:06 AM
- - Sean   This portrait from Perijove 12 is made by reprojec...   May 8 2018, 09:53 AM
- - Sean   All the perijoves up to 12 in this updated menager...   May 12 2018, 07:16 PM
- - Gerald   Here is a europlanet press release about our ProAm...   May 12 2018, 11:09 PM
- - fredk   Congaratulations guys on all this work. I'm c...   May 12 2018, 11:27 PM
- - Gerald   Thanks! The displacement field derived by ster...   May 13 2018, 12:12 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (Gerald @ May 13 2018, 01:12 AM) so...   Jun 1 2018, 11:59 PM
- - Sean   PJ12_81 using Brian Swift's pipeline... *ed...   May 15 2018, 10:14 AM
- - Gerald   YouTube upload of the visuals of my #RASJuno talk ...   May 17 2018, 02:49 PM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   Better late than never; here is an image I process...   May 31 2018, 12:28 AM
- - Gerald   For these suble to very subtle features, and for a...   May 31 2018, 01:36 AM
- - Gerald   What I've implemented has been pretty simple. ...   Jun 2 2018, 02:47 AM
- - Gerald   ... Example: Start with the image pair ...   Jun 2 2018, 11:44 AM
- - Gerald   ... for each pixel position (x,y), estimate the pa...   Jun 2 2018, 11:54 AM
- - fredk   Now I see - that is extremely simple. Thanks, Ger...   Jun 2 2018, 02:23 PM
|- - Gerald   Yes, thanks! That's indeed the same kind o...   Jun 2 2018, 05:52 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Very interesting discussion, thanks for all of thi...   Jun 2 2018, 06:47 PM
- - hendric   It's like https://earth.nullschool.net/ except...   Jun 2 2018, 03:49 PM
- - Gerald   Agreed, Voyager triplets are definitively worth to...   Jun 2 2018, 08:41 PM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   I hadn't yet posted images showing areas north...   Jun 16 2018, 12:02 AM
- - Gerald   PJ12 #87 seems to show two layers of detached haze...   Aug 11 2018, 04:04 AM
- - Sean   PJ12_80_GE/SD   Aug 16 2018, 01:32 AM
- - Sean   PJ12_84 revisited   Mar 18 2019, 03:42 AM


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