InSight Surface Operations, 26 Nov 2018- 21 Dec 2022 |
InSight Surface Operations, 26 Nov 2018- 21 Dec 2022 |
 Nov 26 2018, 08:20 PM
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Congratulations to the InSight team on a successful landing! We'll discuss the remainder of the mission here.
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Dec 5 2018, 04:01 PM
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 Director of Galilean Photography Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 93 |
I recall seeing a NASA Announcement of Opportunity several years ago for investigating turning the weights jettisoned during the landing sequence into full-fledged probes (For missions that needs an offset center of mass for lift). Can't seem to find it now though. Anyone else have better luck?
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Dec 5 2018, 05:43 PM
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 Member Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 24-July 15 Member No.: 7619 |
QUOTE (hendric @ Dec 5 2018, 05:01 PM)  I recall seeing a NASA Announcement of Opportunity several years ago for investigating turning the weights jettisoned during the landing sequence into full-fledged probes (For missions that needs an offset center of mass for lift). Can't seem to find it now though. Anyone else have better luck? Interesting, I would have thought they'd go with flechettes ... available as ... (3,700 nonexplosive penetrator rods... 350 14-in. rods, 1,000 7-in. rods, and 2,400 2-in. rods) standard load weight is 420 kg so, so 370 random "kinetic drill" targets require about 42 kg. That's a lot of energetically "free" drilling. My theory is, why waste the kinetic energy inherent in orbital bombardment? Instead of a rover-mounted drill, drop enough "thor rods" and you've got hundreds of kinetic drills within the landing ellipse. Then the rover only needs to brush the dust of recently broken rock fragments. FYI, as of 2019, a "Hard Target Sensing Fuze" should be operable. It sounds promising; designed, not only survive a 15,000 PSI impact from punching through "X meters" of rock or reinforced concrete but actually measure density as it goes, in order to determine how many floors of the underground bunker it has passed through before triggering. Yep, sounds like something a planetary geologist might want to tinker with. So, for a kinetic strike probe, you'd need -one tungsten "thor rod" with sensors and smart fuze at the back end, - one solar powered data station deployed on a parachute, and - one army surplus spool of 3,000 meters of TOW missile control wire connecting them for data gathering |
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nprev InSight Surface Operations Nov 26 2018, 08:20 PM
nprev Big error on the graphic in that article, though; ... Dec 1 2018, 01:18 AM
MahFL QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 1 2018, 01:18 AM) Big ... Dec 1 2018, 01:33 AM Deimos Still dusty on ICC, but coolness above: https://ma... Dec 1 2018, 02:28 AM nprev Is the ICC cover still on, then? Dec 1 2018, 02:37 AM ddeerrff QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 30 2018, 08:37 PM) Is ... Dec 1 2018, 02:53 AM mcaplinger QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 30 2018, 06:37 PM) Is ... Dec 1 2018, 03:20 AM James Sorenson I think the wind is already starting to clean the ... Dec 1 2018, 03:22 AM Phil Stooke No, the circular outline is gone - dust must have ... Dec 1 2018, 03:24 AM propguy QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Nov 30 2018, 08:24 P... Dec 1 2018, 03:55 AM hendric QUOTE (propguy @ Nov 30 2018, 09:55 PM) I... Dec 1 2018, 07:42 AM fredk QUOTE (hendric @ Dec 1 2018, 08:42 AM) St... Dec 1 2018, 03:09 PM RoverDriver QUOTE (propguy @ Nov 30 2018, 07:55 PM) I... Dec 1 2018, 10:06 AM Explorer1 QUOTE (RoverDriver @ Dec 1 2018, 05:06 AM... Dec 1 2018, 02:48 PM PaulH51 Nice work James
Also from sol 4
Arm / Scoop moveme... Dec 1 2018, 03:27 AM James Sorenson Propguy,
I think we will deal. If it weren't ... Dec 1 2018, 04:02 AM jccwrt Tried some debanding on one of the new MarCO-B ima... Dec 1 2018, 04:13 AM nprev Real curious now to see just how much dust might... Dec 1 2018, 10:51 AM propguy QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 1 2018, 03:51 AM) Real... Dec 1 2018, 04:28 PM Steve G Latest raw images showing the arm getting it's... Dec 1 2018, 02:13 PM pospa QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Dec 1 2018, 04:48 PM) ... Dec 1 2018, 03:11 PM MahFL QUOTE (pospa @ Dec 1 2018, 04:11 PM) Of c... Dec 1 2018, 05:08 PM Decepticon Im confused.
Is the Protective cap on the camera ... Dec 1 2018, 03:11 PM Explorer1 No; it came off just fine. There just seems to ha... Dec 1 2018, 03:15 PM Steve G I always wondered why MSL rovers aren't equipp... Dec 1 2018, 05:49 PM mcaplinger QUOTE (Steve G @ Dec 1 2018, 09:49 AM) th... Dec 1 2018, 06:00 PM djellison QUOTE (Steve G @ Dec 1 2018, 09:49 AM) th... Dec 1 2018, 07:10 PM Phil Stooke A bit more on the use of the arm for digging etc. ... Dec 1 2018, 07:23 PM marsman2020 With respect to the dust cover effectiveness. Her... Dec 1 2018, 07:57 PM mcaplinger The dust on the ICC lens makes me wonder how dusty... Dec 1 2018, 08:15 PM JRehling Moment of well-meaning pedantry here: Weight and m... Dec 1 2018, 08:25 PM mcaplinger QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 1 2018, 12:25 PM) I... Dec 1 2018, 09:30 PM JRehling QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 1 2018, 02:30 PM)... Dec 3 2018, 03:03 AM MahFL QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 1 2018, 08:25 PM) M... Dec 1 2018, 09:36 PM mcaplinger QUOTE (MahFL @ Dec 1 2018, 01:36 PM) As i... Dec 1 2018, 10:20 PM Ant103 I did a little something on the last ICC image. Ye... Dec 1 2018, 11:25 PM MahFL QUOTE (Ant103 @ Dec 1 2018, 11:25 PM) I d... Dec 2 2018, 02:28 AM marsophile https://mars.nasa.gov/insight-raw-images/su...0000... Dec 2 2018, 01:09 AM mcaplinger QUOTE (marsophile @ Dec 1 2018, 05:09 PM)... Dec 2 2018, 01:22 AM PaulH51 QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 2 2018, 09:22 AM)... Dec 2 2018, 09:02 AM fredk QUOTE (PaulH51 @ Dec 2 2018, 10:02 AM) Do... Dec 2 2018, 05:30 PM Floyd Having the Sun in the corner of the frame often do... Dec 2 2018, 01:15 AM Steve G Great work! The equirectangular projection rea... Dec 2 2018, 01:41 AM fredk Phil-o-vision, 3x vertical, of Ant's reproject... Dec 2 2018, 01:59 AM ronatu
Mars.... Dec 2 2018, 03:13 AM djellison The IDC moves. That range data would only be vali... Dec 2 2018, 03:20 PM Ant103 QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 2 2018, 02:22 AM)... Dec 2 2018, 07:21 PM PDP8E I cleaned up all the fisheye 'lens cover... Dec 3 2018, 02:17 AM xflare QUOTE (PDP8E @ Dec 3 2018, 02:17 AM) I cl... Dec 3 2018, 06:44 AM peter.neaum QUOTE (xflare @ Dec 3 2018, 06:44 AM) Is ... Dec 3 2018, 07:27 AM Phil Stooke Because 'weight' is ambiguous - might refe... Dec 3 2018, 04:59 AM serpens Mass is a constant. Weight is a locational variab... Dec 3 2018, 06:25 AM Station I decided not to wait any longer for Mars' dus... Dec 3 2018, 09:09 AM Decepticon Great work! Dec 3 2018, 09:36 AM Floyd If static charge is a problem attracting particles... Dec 3 2018, 12:07 PM nprev Very nicely done, Station!
Re static charge, ... Dec 3 2018, 01:27 PM JRehling QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 3 2018, 06:27 AM) Re s... Dec 3 2018, 06:15 PM HSchirmer QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 3 2018, 06:15 PM) M... Dec 3 2018, 07:30 PM elakdawalla I asked Justin Maki what is happening to the image... Dec 3 2018, 05:13 PM Mercure It is a bit ironic that Humanity put a lander on M... Dec 3 2018, 08:27 PM RoverDriver QUOTE (Mercure @ Dec 3 2018, 12:27 PM) It... Dec 3 2018, 08:54 PM atomoid The apparent descent thruster scour marks seem to ... Dec 3 2018, 09:27 PM Phil Stooke Good point about the rock!
Phil Dec 3 2018, 09:33 PM kenny Emily quotes Justin Maki above as saying : Once t... Dec 3 2018, 10:20 PM djellison The ICC cover has been opened. The current dust i... Dec 3 2018, 10:41 PM MahFL A new image is down.
https://mars.nasa.gov/insigh... Dec 3 2018, 11:53 PM PaulH51 QUOTE (MahFL @ Dec 4 2018, 07:53 AM) A ne... Dec 4 2018, 01:36 AM elakdawalla It's great that dust is flying off, but until ... Dec 4 2018, 06:21 AM elakdawalla I'm actually really intrigued by how deep the ... Dec 4 2018, 06:22 AM HSchirmer QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2018, 07:22 AM... Dec 4 2018, 10:00 AM vikingmars QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2018, 07:22 AM... Dec 4 2018, 10:08 AM pioneer QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2018, 07:22 AM... Dec 4 2018, 06:00 PM HSchirmer QUOTE (pioneer @ Dec 4 2018, 06:00 PM) A ... Dec 4 2018, 08:15 PM atomoid QUOTE (HSchirmer @ Dec 4 2018, 12:15 PM) ... Dec 4 2018, 10:11 PM RoverDriver QUOTE (HSchirmer @ Dec 4 2018, 12:15 PM) ... Dec 5 2018, 12:44 AM Paolo am I the only one who sees linear features (thrust... Dec 4 2018, 07:54 AM kenny I think that's correct about other lander foot... Dec 4 2018, 09:09 AM elakdawalla Cool, thanks! Dec 4 2018, 04:15 PM hendric Pretty much. "Real" quicksand requires ... Dec 4 2018, 06:04 PM serpens Regardless of all the data from orbiters there is ... Dec 4 2018, 09:51 PM HSchirmer QUOTE (serpens @ Dec 4 2018, 10:51 PM) Re... Dec 5 2018, 12:18 AM Explorer1 QUOTE (HSchirmer @ Dec 4 2018, 07:18 PM) ... Dec 5 2018, 02:22 AM MahFL QUOTE (serpens @ Dec 4 2018, 09:51 PM) Re... Dec 5 2018, 01:18 AM djellison That’s not how the landing works. At a certain alt... Dec 4 2018, 09:57 PM Phil Stooke "Curiosity did a hole in one in a small crate... Dec 4 2018, 10:00 PM Paolo Propguy will surely know more about this.
my gues... Dec 5 2018, 05:24 AM propguy QUOTE (Paolo @ Dec 4 2018, 10:24 PM) Prop... Dec 5 2018, 05:43 AM HSchirmer QUOTE (propguy @ Dec 5 2018, 06:43 AM) ..... Dec 5 2018, 03:23 PM Ant103 About making a flatfield image of the ICC, how abo... Dec 5 2018, 12:31 PM fredk It's really hard to flatfield fisheyes. I dou... Dec 5 2018, 02:44 PM stevesliva Takeoff? Crazy. On the other hand, venting the ... Dec 5 2018, 04:17 PM nprev ADMIN NOTE: Although this is indeed a very slow-pa... Dec 5 2018, 07:23 PM HSchirmer Ah, well,
is the seismometer active as it sits on... Dec 5 2018, 07:58 PM hendric This article has great info on meteor streams at M... Dec 5 2018, 08:36 PM JRehling I would not expect meteor showers to cause impacts... Dec 5 2018, 09:38 PM paraisosdelsistemasolar We have new images from the SEIS instrument tweete... Dec 6 2018, 08:25 AM climber Yes...but those images are not yet on the raw imag... Dec 6 2018, 12:06 PM PaulH51 QUOTE (climber @ Dec 6 2018, 08:06 PM) Ye... Dec 6 2018, 12:11 PM |
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