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Burmese
post Oct 24 2005, 03:25 PM
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According to Steve Squyres' latest journal entry, Opportunity is now seeing virtually -no- blueberries in the surface matrix anymore.

"...On top of that, Opportunity has stumbled onto something really new and different lately... the blueberries seem to be gone!..."

And a theory:

"But one possible guess at this point is that we have moved "up section" in geologic terms -- to rocks that are higher up in this stack of layered sediments -- and that the rocks at this level never experienced the concretion-forming process. It's an interesting hypothesis with interesting implications, and it's also one that could explain a few other odd things we've been thinking about ever since Eagle crater"

Looks like Oppy will stop for some intense IDD work in the next day or so.
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post Oct 27 2005, 04:24 AM
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Organic matter certainly could create locally reducing conditions that would mobilize iron ions. But I'm not certain that organic matter would be necessary to create hematite concretions. I don't know what the oxidation state of the Meridiani sediments was at the time they formed, nor when the concretions formed, and that is critical to what happens later. Iron ions are relatively soluble in water when they are in the chemically reduced Fe+2 state, and pretty much insoluble when in the oxidized Fe+3 state.

Oxidation-reduction (redox) reactions are responsible for much of the secondary, iron mineral redistribution on earth. I've seen many examples of hematite concretions that formed around crystals of iron sulfide or other reduced iron minerals. They are often rounded but irregular in shape; but there are examples of very round and regular ones also. In these cases I think the concretions are formed by the diffusion of oxygen into the reduced environment around the sulfides, eventually converting them to iron oxides.

As I understand it, the early atmosphere on earth was chemically reducing, and the very early oceans were loaded with soluble, reduced, iron ions (Fe+2). Even after life and photosynthesis began, it took a long time before oxygen accumulated in the atmosphere, because initially most of the photosynthetic oxygen produced was consumed in the oceans, oxidizing the Fe+2 ions and precipitating vast quantities of Fe+3 as Fe2O3 (hematite), thus forming the amazing banded iron formations of the Precambrian period. I'm sure the actual reaction mechanisms might have been a bit more complicated, perhaps with a goethite or other precursor mineral. The main point is that the young earth had a lot of soluble, reduced iron available. So may have Mars, and that may have resulted in the precipitation of reduced iron species in the sediments, especially if the conditions were arid, or there was a lot of sulfur around.

If the early conditions on Mars were reducing, as they were on the early earth, there may have already been reduced iron minerals in the young Meridani sediments. They could have been oxidized later as the Martian atmosphere slowly became more oxidizing. It seems that such a scenario would eliminate the need for local concentrations of organic matter to reduce insoluble Fe+3 in order to mobilize the iron for diffusion. It seems that we only need a relatively homogenous distribution of small, iron mineral crystals in the sediments under reducing contions as a starting point. Then slowly and uniformly change those conditions to a moderately oxidizing state to create those lovely and uniform concretions known affectionately as blueberries.

Sorry about the rant folks, but Bruce started it. The diverse manifestations of redox geochemistry have fascinated me for much of my life. I worked on iron formations as a grad student, and my first real job was exploring for roll-front uranium deposits. Later, I studied huge redox interfaces that draped oil and gas deposits. It's a fascinating subject, and it gets more fascinating when you throw in the unknown or poorly known conditions during the early history of a planet. This stuff is really fun!


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- Burmese   Bye Bye Blueberries   Oct 24 2005, 03:25 PM
- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (Burmese @ Oct 24 2005, 05:25 PM)Looks ...   Oct 24 2005, 03:37 PM
- - Tman   Wow, it seems Erebus as the (maybe) highest place ...   Oct 24 2005, 04:01 PM
|- - paxdan   I wonder if there is a correlation between the lac...   Oct 24 2005, 05:07 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (paxdan @ Oct 24 2005, 05:07 PM)I wonde...   Oct 24 2005, 06:37 PM
- - Bill Harris   Hmm, one gets so accustomed to seeing blueberries ...   Oct 24 2005, 06:55 PM
- - CosmicRocker   Wow, that took me by surprise, too. I looked back...   Oct 25 2005, 05:59 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Oct 25 2005, 05:59 AM)A...   Oct 25 2005, 07:43 PM
- - Bill Harris   You-gottit, CR. I'd guess that this contact w...   Oct 25 2005, 09:11 AM
- - CosmicRocker   No doubt about it, the sol 617/618 outcrops were e...   Oct 25 2005, 07:37 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Oct 25 2005, 07:37 PM)N...   Oct 25 2005, 07:49 PM
- - Burmese   One would think that the science team would -reall...   Oct 25 2005, 08:17 PM
- - Bill Harris   This area of the north rim of Erebus is darn inter...   Oct 26 2005, 01:11 AM
- - CosmicRocker   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Oct 25 2005, 01:49 PM)Pe...   Oct 26 2005, 04:21 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   As far as I'm concerned, the single most intri...   Oct 26 2005, 06:08 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Oct 26 2005, 01:08 AM).....   Oct 26 2005, 06:08 PM
- - Bill Harris   Erebus may be up section, but OTOH, it may be down...   Oct 26 2005, 08:21 AM
|- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Oct 26 2005, 10:21 AM)Da...   Oct 26 2005, 08:53 AM
- - Myran   Thank you for posting that information BruceMoomaw...   Oct 26 2005, 04:31 PM
- - TheChemist   Here is an article that explains how organics can ...   Oct 26 2005, 08:58 PM
- - CosmicRocker   Organic matter certainly could create locally redu...   Oct 27 2005, 04:24 AM
|- - TheChemist   CR, I agree that organics do not appear to be nece...   Oct 27 2005, 10:46 AM
- - jvandriel   A panoramic view of bedrock and Blueberries around...   Oct 27 2005, 10:32 AM
- - RNeuhaus   TheChemist and CR: Your comments are very interest...   Oct 27 2005, 02:10 PM
- - Bill Harris   CR makes a good point and it is a plausible explan...   Oct 28 2005, 10:51 AM
- - CosmicRocker   I don't know, Bill. It really is curious that...   Oct 29 2005, 05:52 AM
- - Bill Harris   I don't think that this is A Great Conspiracy ...   Oct 29 2005, 02:36 PM
- - CosmicRocker   I wasn't implying any kind of conspiracy, Bill...   Oct 30 2005, 06:32 PM
- - Phil Stooke   CosmicRocker said: "All I can guess is that ...   Oct 30 2005, 06:48 PM
- - Bill Harris   I wasn't seriously thinking anything conspirat...   Oct 30 2005, 11:14 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Oct 30 2005, 11:14 PM)Or...   Oct 30 2005, 11:22 PM
- - CosmicRocker   You're absolutely correct, Phil. It could ver...   Oct 31 2005, 06:15 AM


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